Seriously.. im sick of hearing people call certain brands and such POS or other such things... its all about personal preference and experiences.. if you dont like something.. then dont go into the certain post or forum... shut ur mouth... no one wants to hear you complain about how you dont like a certain bike.. i hate that.. how one kid might say " hey im getting a new felt and i just wanna know what upgrades i should get" and everyone yells at the kid and tells him to get wtp or some shit.. fricken dumb people piss me off... slap a ho for less