Help me decide between 4 BMXs please.

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10/21/2008 7:58 AM

I really need to make my mind up soon, they are all full cromo and are in the same price bracket, any help would be appreciated. My budget limits me to about £290 and I have narrowed the contenders down to these few:

24seven 2wenty 08 model

Frame Material: CROMOLY
Top Tube: 20.5"
Chainstay: 13.8"
Bottom bracket: mid sized bb 11. 5"
Headset: Uses standard 41.8mm Internal headset, headtube is drilled for removable gyro tabs
Brake F: Lee Chi side pull. FS 329 lever
Brake R: Dia Compe AD990 . MX110 lever
Fork: 4130 comoly steel
Stem: 6061 aluminium 53mm inverted
Handlebar: Full 4130 cr-mo 635W x 180H x 1.6T
Grips: 24seven XL F'king flanged
Chainring: 7mm thick CNC'd alloy 30T
Crankset: 3pc-welded cr-mo tubular crank 175mm arms
Chain: KMC Z-510
Freewheel: Cassette 12t cog
Pedal: 24seven star pedals with cr-mo spindles
Rims: Alex Y-303 48H x 14mm R. 36H x 14mm F
Pegs: 2 pair 14mm forged steel. 4 groove
Saddle: 24seven dirt vinyl embossed
Seat post: 27.2 x 300mm straight clamp
Seat clamp: alloy slim single bolt
Hubs: fully sealed aluminium powder coated
Tyres: Kenda K 905 2.125 front, 1.85 rear
Weight: 11.9kg
Colour: matt black

Hoffman Scarab el 09

Scarab 20" Custom Frame
Oversized Rear Axle
Cromo Three Piece Cranks w/sealed MID BB
Sealed Cassette Hub with 9t Driver
Skid Mark Tyres
"NEW" Cutout Sprocket 25t
Front and Rear Pegs
Alloy Pedal
36h Alloy Wheels

GT EL centro 09 model

Frame: 08 design, all tubes cr-mo, machined headtube, MID size BB shell, 5mmT. dropouts, weld-on GYRO cable guides
Size: 20" wheel / 20.5" top tube
Forks: '08 GT dirt/street design, full cr-mo, small dropouts,1-1/8" x 22.2mm steerer, 1-1/4" O.D. blades
Cranks: GT tubular Cr-Mo 3pc., 8 spline, single bolt clamping, thread-in chainwheel pin, 175mm / '07 GT 33T CNC aluminium chianwheel
Bottom Bracket: Mid size sealed bearings, 8 spline Cr-Mo axle
Freewheel: 12T cassette
Chain: KMC Z510H
Rear Brake: Tektro, 907-A coil spring, single anchor bolt, melt forged aluminium U-brake
Front Brake: Alloy side-pull caliper
Levers: Tektro, 273A, aluminium, hinged clamp
Bars: '07 GT dirt/street dual radius bend, Cr-mo, 7" rise
Stem: GT FS design, cold forged aluminium, machined GT logo
Headset: Tange Seiki FATTY 22, extra deep cup engagement, 1-1/8" threadless
Grips: GT Wing shroom design
Rear Hub: GT branded cassette hub, sealed Mech. bearins, 14mm Cr-Mo axle, 36 hole, 12T cog
Front Hub: GT branded, aluminium body, sealed Mech., 3/8" cr-mo axle, 32 hole
Rims: Alienation PBR, aluminium, front 32 hole, rear 36 hole, 31mm width
Tyres: Kenda Kiniption, 2.1"
Seat: '09 GT Slim mini street design, 8mm rails
Seatpost: aluminium double bolt micro adjust
Seatclamp: '08 GT CNC mini design
Pedals: '05 GT Dirt/Street platform design, aluminium body, cr-mo alxe
Included Extras: 1pr. GT steel axle pegs, SST ORYG, GT machined H/bar end plugs
Colour: Cherry

WTP Reason 09

Looseball mid BB
Odyssey 13t freewheel
Salt singlewall black 36h rims
Wethepeople Rhombus grips
Wethepeople Slim seat
New Salt single wall rims
New Salt Sprocket
1 pair of pegs
Frame: Cro-mo DT 20.4” tt
Colour: Violet or Ocean Blue
Fork: Cro-mo Steerer
Rims: Salt singlewall 36h black (f ) chrome (r)
Tyres: Kenda Kontact 2.125 (f ) 1.96 (r)
F hub: Salt looseball 36hole 14mm
R hub: Salt looseball 36hole 14mm
Handlebar: 2pc 1020 hi ten
Stem: Salt Alloy front load
Grips: Wethepeople Rhombus
Headset: Salt internal
Saddle: Wethepeople Slim seat
Seat post: Salt steel
Seat clamp: Alloy single bolt
F Brake: Salt alloy U-brake
R Brake: Salt alloy U-brake
Brake levers: Salt alloy
Gyro: Yes
Crankset: Salt 3pc tubular
BB: Looseball mid
Sprocket: Salt 33t
Pedals: Odyssey twisted PVC
Freewheel: Odyssey 13t
Chain: KMC Z411
Model: WTP3011
Manufactured by: wethepeople

ross rider

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10/21/2008 8:13 AM

what are bmxs?

uncle tony

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10/21/2008 8:20 AM

BMXs, the plural of BMX.

Got anything helpful to add? I'd aprreciate it.

sarkumfromindonesia

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10/21/2008 8:35 AM

The GT and the 24seven seems nice acording to the specs.....
I would say GT El Centro...
but its up to you though....

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uncle tony

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10/21/2008 8:41 AM

sarkumfromindonesia wrote: The GT and the 24seven seems nice acording to the specs.....
I would say GT El Centro...
but its up to you though....

Thanks. They are the two I'm drawn to, I know GT have a bad rep, but the specs are kind of fly. The 24seven looks the business though and is hella light....

Thanks fopr your help.

Grizz

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10/21/2008 10:11 AM

WTP

ross rider

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10/21/2008 10:20 AM

if i where u and i had those bikes as options id say fuck them and go with a kink bike! way better then those bikes

uncle tony

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10/21/2008 10:29 AM

i was looking at the kink gap as it's in the price range, but it's a hi ten frame, which sucks.

I am actually going to take this I think:

Verde Theory 08

Frame: Chromoly main tubes
Fork: Chromoly steerer tube
Bars: 2-PC Chromoly
Cranks: 3-PC Heat Treated Chromoly
Headset: Sealed Integrated
Bottom Bracket: Sealed MID
Stem: Alloy Front Load
Grips: DUO
Seat: Verde Slim Saddle
Seat Post: Micro Adjust
Pedals: Alloy Platform
Rims: 36H Alloy Single Wall
Front Tyre: DUO Trail 2.20
Rear Tyre: Kenda Contact 1.95
Front Hub: 36H 3/8" Axle
Rear Hub: 36H, 14mm, 12T Cassette
Sprocket: 33T Disc
Chain: KMC 1/8"
Brake Lever: Tektro
Brakes: Tektro U-Brake
Detangler: N/A
Pegs: 1 pair

ross rider

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10/21/2008 10:30 AM

verde is a good bike also get it

StolenRida

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10/22/2008 4:19 AM

illd get the 24seven

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uncle tony

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10/22/2008 9:11 AM

StolenRida wrote: illd get the 24seven

Any specific reason? How does it compare to the verde? The dude in the shop told me the 24seven was more a dirt bike......I want to use it for street, mainly.

tscbmxer

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10/22/2008 10:21 AM

we the people. theyre bikes are light and they hold up

whitee-outtt

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10/22/2008 11:38 AM

get the hoffman scarb AL no el
its muchhh better

my anaconda dont want none enless you got buns hun

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aZnBMX84

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10/22/2008 5:11 PM

wtp or verde

blaxuede

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10/22/2008 7:00 PM

tscbmxer wrote: we the people. theyre bikes are light and they hold up

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th3skyizthalimit

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10/22/2008 7:02 PM

wtp

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iBBBMMXX

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10/22/2008 7:09 PM

I have a verde theory 08 and it is very nice so far. I have only had it for like 3 months but nothing has been broken,dented or chipped for me. I would suggest it cuz its cheaper and on the lighter side

uncle tony

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10/23/2008 3:00 AM

iBBBMMXX wrote: I have a verde theory 08 and it is very nice so far. I have only had it for like 3 months but nothing has been broken,dented or chipped for me. I would suggest it cuz its cheaper and on the lighter side

Thanks. I'm starting to think I should have gone for the 24seven so anyone saying the verde is helping my mental state!!!

A08

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10/23/2008 5:50 AM

i actually just posted this in another thread, just my two cents i wouldnt buy anything without a full 4130 frame.. heres my other post tho

well.. i actually just did the homework for my friend but he only wanted to spend 350 dollars, anyway this is what i came up with, on a parts basis, disregarding the popularity contest..

2Hip Soul 349.99
- Full 4130 Frame
- Sealed 14mm Cassette
- Pivotal Seat/post
- Sealed Bottom Bracket

DK Helio 349.99
- Full 4130 Frame
- Sealed Bottom Bracket

Black Eye Pistola 339.99
- Full 4130 Frame
- Sealed 3Pc. Bottom Bracket
- 9T Driver
- Pivotal Seat/post

DK Cleveland 339.99
- Full 4130 Frame w/ Gyro Tabs

Stolen Wrap 329.99
- Full 4130 Frame w/ Gyro Tabs
- Sealed Hubs
- 14mm Cassette

DK Six Pack 319.99
- Full 4130 Frame

..... this is a list mainly based on my opinion and experience, IMO you should get a bike with a solid frame and for me thats always meant no hi tensile steel and reasonably up to date features and then change the parts out as you see fit, there were always two big financial humps for me to get over when i was younger and i had to save forever for parts.. the 400 dollars for a good frame and the 250-300 dollars for a good back wheel.. everything else is cheap enough to buy here and there... hope i helped

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10/23/2008 7:45 AM

get a fit

A08

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10/23/2008 11:46 PM

dont get a fit

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ban list - SHITTY SELLER ALERT, PLEASE READ
dirtjumper202 - dibbed FC hub in his thread and contacted for paypal information, told me it was pending (even though it wasn't marked, which is kind of fucked up in itself), couple days go by and he decides to proceed, i pay immediately with paypal. payment is sent. paypal holds the payment for "random security verification." meanwhile i sell my nankai FC wheel set, buy a new front hub to match the profile/nankai FC rear that i bought, buy rims and spokes, everything except nipples. paypal releases the funds. and this kid refunds me and says the first guy paid at the same time my funds were released to him and he sent the wheel to the first guy? wtf? now I'm out the wheel set i sold and not going to find another profile/nankai hub. when was the last time you saw a profile-shelled nankai technolite FC for sale (besides the one that was sold to someone else after i bought it). there is an obvious problem if you have to refund a buyer to sell an item to someone else. its just bad business. dirt jumper obviously has no respect for his buyers. he sold the wheel to the other guy because he was willing to buy the whole wheel and i had only already paid for the hub (which was completely fine according to his initial sale terms) but he chose to look out for himself rather than do the right thing.

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10/24/2008 12:52 AM

The fit in my price range (£290 approx $500) has a 1020 frame - sh*t.

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10/24/2008 1:28 AM

screw that...get a parts package and a fly luna w/ bashgaurd!!

why would u wanna get FELT buy a bike!!!..lmfao

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10/24/2008 2:32 AM

uncle tony wrote: i was looking at the kink gap as it's in the price range, but it's a hi ten frame, which sucks.

I am actually going to take this I think:

Verde Theory 08

Frame: Chromoly main tubes
Fork: Chromoly steerer tube
Bars: 2-PC Chromoly
Cranks: 3-PC Heat Treated Chromoly
Headset: Sealed Integrated
Bottom Bracket: Sealed MID
Stem: Alloy Front Load
Grips: DUO
Seat: Verde Slim Saddle
Seat Post: Micro Adjust
Pedals: Alloy Platform
Rims: 36H Alloy Single Wall
Front Tyre: DUO Trail 2.20
Rear Tyre: Kenda Contact 1.95
Front Hub: 36H 3/8" Axle
Rear Hub: 36H, 14mm, 12T Cassette
Sprocket: 33T Disc
Chain: KMC 1/8"
Brake Lever: Tektro
Brakes: Tektro U-Brake
Detangler: N/A
Pegs: 1 pair

if you read what you wrote..... this frame is not full chrome moly.. so that means about half of it is hi-tensile steel... only the main tubes are chrome moly which i think is seat tube and top tube.

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10/24/2008 3:08 AM

Hoffman is the best in my eyes

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10/24/2008 3:14 AM

Joedarr33 wrote: get the hoffman scarb AL no el
its muchhh better

excelent point

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uncle tony

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10/27/2008 5:55 AM

I've actually gone for the 24seven. Full cromo, for a start.

jayk6284

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11/27/2008 11:36 AM

go for the 24seven. i did and cant fault it. actually if im honest i bought 2. seriously its amazing to ride. do it

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11/27/2008 12:35 PM

THERE NOT CALLED "BMX'S"

ITS A FUCKING BIKE.

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11/27/2008 1:15 PM

kink apex is the most dialed complete out there. badger bars, ody forks. pivotal, light cause im assuming most of the people that buy completes arent used to the muscels (spelling sorry) that are used and would help alot with a lighter bike. if you can piece together the money, it is the best complete you can buy.

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