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***THE OFFICIAL TRAILS TUTORIAL THREAD***

ridebmxnc
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4/8/2009 5:16 PM

Edited Date/Time:

4/8/2009 5:26 PM

okay so in the past week there has probably been about 50 threads about starting your own trails. its not that i have a problem with it b/c i dont care really, but i think it would be more usefull to all of us if we consolidated trail knowledge from those of us who know what were doing in one thread and gave new trail riders a place to ask their questions.

things you will need:
spade shovels
flat head shovels
buckets
pesticide sprayers
pick axes
regular axes for chopping up fallen trees (do not go in the woods and start chopping shit down on your own!!!!)
wheelbarrows
muscle and a lot of elbow grease

Tips on building:
Don't chop down trees to make your lines. Pick a spot in the woods where there is enough room to build them to begin with.
Plan for the future. As you get better you will want to make them bigger, thats the best part is that the jumps can always get bigger with a little hard work.
Use logs and such to make the base's of your lips and landers, it will save you a shit ton of time in the long run digging.
Keep rocks out of your jumps, youll be thankful you did the first time you bail.
Dig drainage out of your pits so you dont have to wait 2 weeks to ride after it rains.
Spray your lips down with water before every session to keep them well packed.
Dig before you ride every session so they stay maintained.
If you have acess to a blow torch use it on the lips to avoid cracking.
Build the lips next to the trees so they have a solid base and that way your not hacking all the roots and killing the tree and making the soil erode easier.
Start small, a beginner doesnt need anything bigger than 4 ft tall and 10ft long to learn on.
Make sure you have enough of a runway before the first jump, not just for the one your building now, but for your eventual monstorous doubles.
Once you do have some huge lines, build a couple of little doubles or tables for new riders to learn on so they can eventually be another set of hands to dig.

here's the 10 dirt jump commandments as well for your enjoyment courtesy of vital member hickey138
10 DIRT JUMP COMMANDMENTS !!!
Some basic guidelines for local dirt jumps. Maybe you'll find these helpful. Maybe you won't. Very few people know any of this. Remind your fellow rider so next time he can't say he didn't know. Feel free to cut/paste/adjust/repost... SPREAD THE WORD !!!

1. If you enjoy riding your local dirt jumps, then CONTRIBUTE. Give something back. Don't just show up, tear it up, and split. Repairing your own damage is MANDATORY. If you mess it up, FIX it. If you take a chunk out of a landing, FIX it. (If you don't know how, ask).

2. DON'T LITTER !!! This is only one of many ways dirt jumps get torn down. Don't bury it. Use a trash can. Trash looks horrible.

3. DIGGING means to dig new dirt and maintain the trails. It does not mean "re-shaping" things you don't like or "don't flow" for you. Lip shapes and transitions are the privilege of the builders. If the builders like steep lips/landings, that's how it is.

4. If you show up to a spot while people are digging, then you dig BEFORE riding. This applies to everyone. If you show up and the Diggers aren't there, then you can water the jumps before riding, that's it. DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING.

5. MAINTENANCE is watering, sweeping, picking up trash, raking, packing, etc. (Sweeping dust off dry jumps is not as good as actually watering it, which will settle the dust and re-pack it when ridden).

6. Riding is done AFTER you have demonstrated appropriate willingness to contribute to the trails.

7. DON'T ride when it's muddy. It tears the jumps up, and pointless anyway. Be patient. DON'T create more work for everybody.

8. ABSOLUTELY NO motorized vehicles of any kind. No 50's mini bikes, quads, dirt-bikes, RC cars, etc.

9. Dirt Jumps are NOT a playground, and little kids should NOT be running up and down lips/landings like they're at a McDonald's Play Palace.

10. BE RESPECTFUL-Can't be said enough. Be respectful to the builders, neighbors, other riders, and the Earth. If you're respectful, you won't get disrespected. Period. Don't be a loud, littering, selfish guy with an attitude. Thanks.


feel free to add to it, ask questions, whatever just make this a productive thread.
kane rides bmx
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4/8/2009 5:31 PM

i like the commandments me and some other guys are the main builders of our trails and all those rules wer not respected so we ditched that place and now theres no1 there cause the jumps are destroyed cause we arent there to fix em up
JustRideBMX
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4/8/2009 6:11 PM

thanks a lot man....but i have a couple questions...

1. whats the pesticide sprayers for?
2. is raking the best method for getting small twigs and patches of leafs up?
3. should there be a certain space to get all the dirt or should u dig for dirt in the pits at the bottom of the jumps?
kinkroc08
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4/8/2009 6:15 PM

JustRideBMX wrote: thanks a lot man....but i have a couple questions...

1. whats the pesticide sprayers for?
2. is raking the best method for getting small twigs and patches of leafs up?
3. should there be a certain space to get all the dirt or should u dig for dirt in the pits at the bottom of the jumps?

im guessing so weeds dont grow back and brush/grass etc

but just guessing lol
Ressler711
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4/8/2009 6:18 PM

haha thank you for making this dave

"muscle and a lot of elbow grease "

i gots that, steroids baby!
JustRideBMX
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4/8/2009 6:22 PM

JustRideBMX wrote: thanks a lot man....but i have a couple questions...

1. whats the pesticide sprayers for?
2. is raking the best method for getting small twigs and patches of leafs up?
3. should there be a certain space to get all the dirt or should u dig for dirt in the pits at the bottom of the jumps?

kinkroc08 wrote: im guessing so weeds dont grow back and brush/grass etc

but just guessing lol

just asking....DAVE ANSWER ME
ridebmxnc
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4/8/2009 7:06 PM

JustRideBMX wrote: thanks a lot man....but i have a couple questions...

1. whats the pesticide sprayers for?
2. is raking the best method for getting small twigs and patches of leafs up?
3. should there be a certain space to get all the dirt or should u dig for dirt in the pits at the bottom of the jumps?

pesticide sprayers are for spraying your lips down before sessions and to spray really dry sandy spots to harden them up.

yes use rakes for small twigs and leaves. the big plastic ones though, not the metal ones.

you should get your dirt from the pits you dig between the jumps, from your drainage ditches and a big hole out of the way too.
ridebmxnc
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4/8/2009 7:07 PM

Ressler711 wrote: haha thank you for making this dave

"muscle and a lot of elbow grease "

i gots that, steroids baby!

it was just dumb having 5 "how do i make trails" threads on the first page...
Ressler711
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4/8/2009 7:09 PM

Ressler711 wrote: haha thank you for making this dave

"muscle and a lot of elbow grease "

i gots that, steroids baby!

ridebmxnc wrote: it was just dumb having 5 "how do i make trails" threads on the first page...

haha true, but its all good
i like seeing more kids get interested in building
it takes more determination than just riding around findings spots
id rather ride something i build
plus i like getting high (no pun intended)
Balleristc$$$
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4/8/2009 7:12 PM

thanks man these will help me out a lot
ridebmxnc
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4/8/2009 7:13 PM

Ressler711 wrote: haha thank you for making this dave

"muscle and a lot of elbow grease "

i gots that, steroids baby!

ridebmxnc wrote: it was just dumb having 5 "how do i make trails" threads on the first page...

Ressler711 wrote: haha true, but its all good
i like seeing more kids get interested in building
it takes more determination than just riding around findings spots
id rather ride something i build
plus i like getting high (no pun intended)

im glad more ppl are getting into trails too but i want them to do their shit right too


one more tip i forgot:
make your lips 3-4 ft wide and double that for landers
ridebmxnc
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4/8/2009 8:03 PM

Balleristc$$$ wrote: thanks man these will help me out a lot

np man. thats what its all about. good luck with your trails.
dave lawrence
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4/8/2009 9:39 PM

I love you for this!

Now we need someone to type up a skatepark etiquette for people to memorize...
Balleristc$$$
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4/8/2009 9:40 PM

dave lawrence wrote: I love you for this!

Now we need someone to type up a skatepark etiquette for people to memorize...

oh fo sho
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4/8/2009 9:42 PM

dave lawrence wrote: I love you for this!

Now we need someone to type up a skatepark etiquette for people to memorize...

dont run infront of matt ressler unless you wish to die

that about sums it up
Balleristc$$$
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4/8/2009 9:43 PM

dave lawrence wrote: I love you for this!

Now we need someone to type up a skatepark etiquette for people to memorize...

Ressler711 wrote: dont run infront of matt ressler unless you wish to die

that about sums it up

hahahahahhahhaha
dave lawrence
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4/8/2009 9:47 PM

I do suggest an amendment for the trails tutorial, Water the jumps After riding as well, and pack them at the end of the session.
JustRideBMX
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4/9/2009 4:18 AM

JustRideBMX wrote: thanks a lot man....but i have a couple questions...

1. whats the pesticide sprayers for?
2. is raking the best method for getting small twigs and patches of leafs up?
3. should there be a certain space to get all the dirt or should u dig for dirt in the pits at the bottom of the jumps?

ridebmxnc wrote: pesticide sprayers are for spraying your lips down before sessions and to spray really dry sandy spots to harden them up.

yes use rakes for small twigs and leaves. the big plastic ones though, not the metal ones.

you should get your dirt from the pits you dig between the jumps, from your drainage ditches and a big hole out of the way too.

drainage ditches?
do u have pics of good drainage systems?
W1k1D o_0 scott bmxs
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4/9/2009 6:21 AM

my friend bought 5 trucks loads of dirt for 130... for easter. to lasye to dig. hahah
ryanxanimalbmx
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4/9/2009 7:37 AM

nicee thread i alredy have trails behind my house
wtprider
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4/9/2009 8:28 AM

nice thread.
my tip is you can buy brooms and buckets from the dolar tree.
Ressler711
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4/9/2009 8:36 AM

JustRideBMX wrote: thanks a lot man....but i have a couple questions...

1. whats the pesticide sprayers for?
2. is raking the best method for getting small twigs and patches of leafs up?
3. should there be a certain space to get all the dirt or should u dig for dirt in the pits at the bottom of the jumps?

ridebmxnc wrote: pesticide sprayers are for spraying your lips down before sessions and to spray really dry sandy spots to harden them up.

yes use rakes for small twigs and leaves. the big plastic ones though, not the metal ones.

you should get your dirt from the pits you dig between the jumps, from your drainage ditches and a big hole out of the way too.

JustRideBMX wrote: drainage ditches?
do u have pics of good drainage systems?

on the side of everything just dig little like 6 inch deep lines to let the water run off the trails
wherever the ground sits low
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4/9/2009 9:00 AM

now that u posted this i better see u digging this weekend with us.

haha
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4/9/2009 10:00 AM

Now, if we could just get Vital to sticky a post...
ridebmxnc
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4/9/2009 11:58 AM

lol andrew! i always dig before i ride!! im actually going to jacksonville to ride some trails this weekend at their trails and hit the beach for easter but ill be out there next wkd!
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4/9/2009 12:32 PM

I never rode trails before im too much of a pussy Sad

I know a few people who do use dirt bikes only in the construction of the trails, like when they make berms they have someone with a dirtbike go and throw the dirt up...
JustRideBMX
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4/9/2009 12:49 PM

Smile more pics of my trails today
JustRideBMX
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4/9/2009 12:49 PM

Smile more pics of my trails today
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4/9/2009 2:39 PM

ha ya david i know, but i gotta give ya a hard time.

imma work on the usual trails on saturday. and i am putting up something new somewhere new tomorrow...


should be interesting...
ridebmxnc
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4/9/2009 3:31 PM

abreezy111 wrote: ha ya david i know, but i gotta give ya a hard time.

imma work on the usual trails on saturday. and i am putting up something new somewhere new tomorrow...


should be interesting...

damn your hard time giving... damn it straight to hell

OH BOY!!!!!! NEW TRAILS GOING UP EVERYWHERE LATELY!!! ryan smith and the old regency crew are digging somewhere too. i'm excited for new stuff :D lemme know if you need some help homie!!!!

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