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1/5/2013 8:43 PM

I want to build a tower to have a desktop again my cousin said he built his from scratch and I was going to ask for help but he moved away to school so I need help from someone who's ACTUALLY computer savvy or would be helpful

I have an old dell desktop monitor so thats out of the way. Pretty much the only reason I want a desktop again is so I can import footage from my camera and that takes a 9 pin input soooo....
What am I looking for? How much would this cost and would it take a lot of maintenance once it's built up?

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1/5/2013 8:47 PM

you can buy a cheap tower off CL with Windows Vista or XP for cheap as fuck if you just wanna do some editing, just make sure you have a good graphics card and a decent size hard drive, you can even get an external 1TB for $100.

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1/5/2013 8:51 PM

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you can buy a cheap tower off CL with Windows Vista or XP for cheap as fuck if you just wanna do some editing, just make sure you have a good graphics card and a decent size hard drive, you can even get an external 1TB for $100.

I thought about it but it seems sketchy seeing as I don't know shit about computers so I can set myself up for a scam easily that way also I really want a tower with a 9 pin input because that's the only way to import footage from my camera or do all desktops come with that and I'm really just technologically impaired?

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1/5/2013 8:54 PM
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you're talking about a serial port, all computers come with it BUT you can just hook a USB cable from your camera to the usb port in the tower OR just run an SD card reader to the USB port....no use in building a computer that will be pretty expensive and you won't use most of anything on it. Also, make sure to get a nice monitor, that's one thing you need especially when editing...i use a 32" main screen with a 22" when i move my computer from place to place.

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1/5/2013 8:58 PM

if you want something decent you'll need at least $500, i built my desktop from scratch and spent only $500 but iv seen pre built desktops with the same specs as mine worth around $650-$750, mine does the job without lag or being slow but if you want to go overkill, you'll probably need around $2000+

i would suggest that you build a new desktop rather than upgrading an old one, as most the parts are out of date, eg if you want to update the processor to an i3-i7, you'll need a new motherboard as the sockets are different, older CPU's use LGA775 socket which include pentium 4's - Core 2 Quad etc, where as newer ones use LGA1155 sockets.In my opinion it would be easier to build a new desktop rather than surfing the net for parts that would be compatible etc.

It doesn't take a lot for it to be maintained, the only annoying thing is the inside will get really dusty.
Building it is easy, its a matter of plugging plugging cables.

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1/5/2013 8:58 PM

Nah that's the thing I use video cameras not a standard camera that take video it has a 4 pin port and the out is 9 pin and SD cards don't even exsist to my camera and the vx also how much would a decent graphics card and hard drive cost?

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1/5/2013 9:05 PM

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if you want something decent you'll need at least $500, i built my desktop from scratch and spent only $500 but iv seen pre built desktops with the same specs as mine worth around $650-$750, mine does the job without lag or being slow but if you want to go overkill, you'll probably need around $2000+

i would suggest that you build a new desktop rather than upgrading an old one, as most the parts are out of date, eg if you want to update the processor to an i3-i7, you'll need a new motherboard as the sockets are different, older CPU's use LGA775 socket which include pentium 4's - Core 2 Quad etc, where as newer ones use LGA1155 sockets.In my opinion it would be easier to build a new desktop rather than surfing the net for parts that would be compatible etc.

It doesn't take a lot for it to be maintained, the only annoying thing is the inside will get really dusty.
Building it is easy, its a matter of plugging plugging cables.

Cool so then how do I even start buiding from scratch? Where do I go and I've been thinking about spending $100 a paycheck so it might take a while so would it be okay to build whatever I have then leave it alone for like a week or two?

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1/5/2013 9:06 PM

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Nah that's the thing I use video cameras not a standard camera that take video it has a 4 pin port and the out is 9 pin and SD cards don't even exsist to my camera and the vx also how much would a decent graphics card and hard drive cost?

You could just buy a usb converter? also you cant just buy any hard drive and graphics card, it needs to be compatible with your desktop.

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1/5/2013 9:09 PM

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you're talking about a serial port, all computers come with it BUT you can just hook a USB cable from your camera to the usb port in the tower OR just run an SD card reader to the USB port....no use in building a computer that will be pretty expensive and you won't use most of anything on it. Also, make sure to get a nice monitor, that's one thing you need especially when editing...i use a 32" main screen with a 22" when i move my computer from place to place.

Whats the point in having two screens? I've been seeing that a lot but never got the point in it but seems profressional

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1/5/2013 9:10 PM

it's always cheaper to build your own shit, you pay out the ass to have prebuilt computers...mine is custom built by a friend, it's actually pretty decent and at the time it was a $800 tower which would have been $1200+ if i bought it prebuilt.

Also, newegg.com will be your best friend when building a computer.

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1/5/2013 9:11 PM

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Nah that's the thing I use video cameras not a standard camera that take video it has a 4 pin port and the out is 9 pin and SD cards don't even exsist to my camera and the vx also how much would a decent graphics card and hard drive cost?

Trev wrote:

You could just buy a usb converter? also you cant just buy any hard drive and graphics card, it needs to be compatible with your desktop.

external HDD will work with just about any Windows computer, an actual hard drive needs to be matched up with a motherboard, same for graphics card...but i told him to worry about a graphics card if his sucks, of course he'll wanna find one that works for his shit but since i didn't give any specifics for the graphics card i'm pretty sure he didn't get the wrong idea, i was vague on purpose.

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1/5/2013 9:12 PM

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Whats the point in having two screens? I've been seeing that a lot but never got the point in it but seems profressional

i DJ sometimes so i bring my laptop with me, i use a 22" monitor for it and i use a 32" for my desktop unless i'm gaming i'll use the 22" (22" is better than my 720p 32")

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1/5/2013 9:13 PM

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Cool so then how do I even start buiding from scratch? Where do I go and I've been thinking about spending $100 a paycheck so it might take a while so would it be okay to build whatever I have then leave it alone for like a week or two?

its hard to explain as there are a lot of things you need to understand before just building one, the way i learned was i got an old desktop that was broken and began to take it apart and swapping parts from another desktop i found, then doing research as to why some parts wouldn't work or why some pins were different to others. It took my around 2 years to actually become confident in building a desktop with brand new parts.

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1/5/2013 9:19 PM

Damn this is all confusing to me so how about this
I buy a decent tower for now then buy a cheap as shit one to build up for fun, then do trev's actions by learning from trial and error and build one that I can be proud of for generations?

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1/5/2013 9:22 PM
Edited Date/Time: 1/5/2013 9:23 PM

Roqfan wrote:

Damn this is all confusing to me so how about this
I buy a decent tower for now then buy a cheap as shit one to build up for fun, then do trev's actions by learning from trial and error and build one that I can be proud of for generations?

Buy a cheap desktop and upgrade the parts 1 by 1, but do research before taking things apart.

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1/5/2013 9:24 PM

Trev wrote:

Buy a cheap desktop and upgrade the parts 1 by 1, but do research before taking things apart.

it's like buying a complete bike and upgrading each part as you out-ride each part...

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1/5/2013 9:25 PM

Trev wrote:

Buy a cheap desktop and upgrade the parts 1 by 1, but do research before taking things apart.

Makes sense but I want one to start off in a usable state, so is there any you would recommend or how do I go about this then?

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1/5/2013 9:31 PM
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Roqfan wrote:

Damn this is all confusing to me so how about this
I buy a decent tower for now then buy a cheap as shit one to build up for fun, then do trev's actions by learning from trial and error and build one that I can be proud of for generations?

Trev wrote:

Buy a cheap desktop and upgrade the parts 1 by 1, but do research before taking things apart.

Roqfan wrote:

Makes sense but I want one to start off in a usable state, so is there any you would recommend or how do I go about this then?

It all depends on how much you're willing to spend, you could just buy a good pre built one if you can afford it and buy parts for it later on. Like sbc said, its like a bike you can start of with a cheap beginner complete and buy parts for it, you can buy an expensive complete and upgrade parts or you can build it from scratch.

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1/5/2013 9:34 PM

How's this one?

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1/5/2013 9:38 PM

check out tigerdirect.com as well.

a hand built $500 desktop will be better than a prebuilt $500 desktop

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1/5/2013 9:40 PM
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Roqfan wrote:

How's this one?

Its pretty good for the price, however i personally do not like AMD products as iv had crappy experiences with them.

I'd probably go for this.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883220247

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1/5/2013 9:48 PM

Roqfan wrote:

How's this one?

Trev wrote:

Its pretty good for the price, however i personally do not like AMD products as iv had crappy experiences with them.

I'd probably go for this.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883220247

Done. Gonna save up and get it

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1/7/2013 9:42 AM

You should have told me idiot. I was up in South Gate this weekend and could have easily let you borrow the 13" MBP that I no longer use.

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If you are getting a graphics card make sure your motherboard and power supply can take it or your pc will blow

If you are getting a whole new setup amd is better for video editing but intel is better for gaming ( proccessors) and Amds are cheaper.

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1/7/2013 5:13 PM

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You should have told me idiot. I was up in South Gate this weekend and could have easily let you borrow the 13" MBP that I no longer use.

How could you be in south gate and not tell me!!!
And I don't even know what a MBP is

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1/8/2013 4:37 AM

Night Light wrote:

You should have told me idiot. I was up in South Gate this weekend and could have easily let you borrow the 13" MBP that I no longer use.

Roqfan wrote:

How could you be in south gate and not tell me!!!
And I don't even know what a MBP is

I assume he is referring to a Mac Book Pro.

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1/8/2013 1:23 PM

Trev wrote:

I assume he is referring to a Mac Book Pro.

Ding Ding Ding.


13"
2.9 ghz
8Gb of RAM

Its nothing fancy, but it sure as hell did the job when I needed it.

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1/8/2013 10:18 PM

Roqfan wrote:

How could you be in south gate and not tell me!!!
And I don't even know what a MBP is

Trev wrote:

I assume he is referring to a Mac Book Pro.

Night Light wrote:

Ding Ding Ding.


13"
2.9 ghz
8Gb of RAM

Its nothing fancy, but it sure as hell did the job when I needed it.

Your still an asshole for not telling me you were in south gate

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1/13/2013 7:48 PM
Edited Date/Time: 1/13/2013 7:54 PM

If you plan on doing editing go for a nvidia card. The cuda cores are really beneficial for editing software. If you plan on doing a lot of rendering try the AMD pile driver 8 core CPU. If you won't need the extra cores I suggest an i5 3750k. Z77 or 990x motherboard depending on what CPU you pick. 16 gb of ram if you'll be using pretty intense programs. 8 if you're just doing editing here and there. I like fractal cases and corsairs r series. Seagate barracuda 1tb hard drives are also super cheap now like 60$ so I'd pick one of those up. Check out pcpartpicker.com and telsyndicate.

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