these rims are alright... not the strongest in my opinion, I have one in the rear, and now getting 7KA's. I wouldn't rank them so low but good for the value, if you don't ride too hard and ride smooth, these are great rims, but if you grind/bail a lot, there are better rims. The cross-lacing is awesome, it makes this rim worth every cent, Super light and has great machined sidewalls for braking. Also the choices of colors is quite nice, (Is this the only rim available with dual color?, just wondering.) 8.5/10; not the best but great.