Wheels and tires are the most important weight on a bike

This is why I dont ride quarter pipes haha

Pinch your cranks. I ride a super low plastic seat and still can bar. I keep one hand on but learned just throwing them. I also bar with the wrong hand so theres some motivation.

Yes, to each their own. I dont see them as custom. The angles are the ones selected from the list so technically it's a one off version of THAT frame and seems limited. But everyone is entitled to view it as they want. All frames are generally the same ... more »

A bunch of frames and bars

Yeah they hit sometimes. Especially on barspins. I want to switch to 125mm profiles eventually so it will have more clearance. I have size 10.5. Anything over 160 will hit for sure.

Not a big fan. I used to be when I was a kid. The la Bastille or whatever is cool. I'd ride one nice shorter tt length and low soh. A lot of it is that haro didnt keep up. They're still offering most of their frames with 13.5+ chainstays. Which is fine ... more »

That's pretty cool, I know in flatland the shorter cs isnt new. I'm always interested in seeing progressive stuff whether it be geo or weight etc.

Yes. I'm not saying it's wrong to want it. It's your frame. Their overall geometry is limited. You may be able to pick out of what they have to make a frame you like but overall when it comes to customs they're way behind and pretty generic. But I'm ... more »

That's not irrelevant. Just because a frame doesn't have bullet capped stays doesn't mean it isnt custom. It's just a cosmetic feature. Not saying you cant have certain geo on your frame. Also a short cs like 12.2 and 77 ht is pushing boundaries. A lot ... more »

Bullet capped stays have nothing to do with geometry. S&m limits the actual geometry of the frame. The specs of your "custom" is determined by what already existing aftermarket frsme you selected. Which is a fairly stupid template.They have much ... more »

If I bought an s&m atf for example with my specs it's still not custom its a modified s&m atf. Not a real custom. If its not a specific model and you call and give them your list of specs and they weld it up then it's a fully custom frame. But ... more »

The thicker tube and straight will be heavier and stronger The smaller size and butted will be lighter So really it's up to you and your style of riding

Yeah it wasnt too easy to put on but it does save some weight!

It's a lot of fun. Especially if you aren't tall. I plan on making it a little more responsive and smaller. I cant ride normal size frames now haha.

It's a modified aftermarket frame. It's still a ccr with slightly altered angles. Not a true custom. The lairds usually come in at around 4lbs to 4.5lbs. Dhers frsme was 3lbs and some off ounces.S&m is usually just under 5 or over. I'm going off ... more »

Exactly what you said, itll be a customized CCR not a real custom frame. A modified version of their frame. S&ms options are so limited. If I were to get a custom frame I would want something very different. Infact I ride such a short frame a steep ... more »

I'm building a bank kicker soon. Looks fun

They're your specs that you've selected from their choices. There is limited options. It's not a true custom. It's a version of their aftermarket frame altered slightly to your specs. It's still an s&m atf or whatever frames they have available with ... more »