Added reply in a thread FS: S&M BTM, Widemouth Pitchfork & Challenger 2/16/2020 4:51 AM

Bump for a price drop. Would like to get the stuff out of my garage and into the hands of someone who's going to use it.

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Started new thread FS: S&M BTM, Widemouth Pitchfork & Challenger 2/1/2020 1:51 PM

Everything was used for a little over a month and is in immaculate condition. Looking for $325 + s/h for everything. 20.5" S&M BTM in gloss clear (no marks other than wheel install marks & the slight tubing patina under the clear coat that was

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Added a comment to seanbrian's bike check 1/27/2020 6:42 AM

Thanks!

The long/short answer is:

BTM vs. MOD: I've always been pulled back to frames with midschool overtones which the MOD for sure has. The BTM is a fun bike, but the plusses of the slightly more responsive geometry do not make up for the loss of overall stability (especially as I've gotten older). I still spin pretty often, but I'm not doing feeble hard 180's or anything that I'd reap the benefit of a shorter rear end. Also, the shorter rear end threw my manual & tire trick (taps, fufs, etc) balance point way off.

CCR vs. MOD: I'm pretty short (5'5"-5'6") so the 21' top tube was a bit much for me. I run a 30/9 ratio and have a 710sl with a half link (since the ratio wont slam on the MOD) so I'd say where my wheel is on the MOD is right about the same place it was on the CCR so its a close enough "apples to apples" comparison when it comes to the rear end. I don't really notice the headtube difference between the CCR's 74.25 and MOD's 74.5, but I can say the riding reach of the 20.75" MOD is closer to a "newer school" geometry 20.5" since most frames now have 75 or 75.5 and it pushes the bars forward.

Overall, I think I'm 110% settled on the MOD. The only change I could want for this frame is welded mounts and that really does not make much of a difference overall other than being a bit more stiff. I did however just order some 33mm offset Widemouth forks and a Turtleneck to give me a little more stability up front. Shoot me a message on instagram if you want to talk more about geometry, I geek out over this stuff and love talking shop hahaha ( Instagram: s.b.r_ )

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