BMX Research for Seats

I ride mine steep because slim seats have that curve plus it looks cooler

I ran pivotal for a number of years before switching to a combo seat.

I never changed the angle once, I liked it at a relatively flat angle and kept it that way. That’s likely why I moved to a combo seat, it was everything I always ran, but considerably lighter.

i have mine angled straight, and once i tighten it i never change it unless i need to tighten it. i dont see why you would need to change it if its in a comfortable position.

It’s fun to change the angle of other people’s seats when they aren’t looking

cky199 wrote:

It’s fun to change the angle of other people’s seats when they aren’t looking

cky199 wrote:

It’s fun to change the angle of other people’s seats when they aren’t looking

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Don’t forget to pop the seat off and stuff the seat post with raw hot dogs too , I swear by fat soft seats , makes slipping pedals from amplitude allot less painful and can prevent injuries

I run my seat pretty much lining up with the angle of the TT and Tyre and rarely ever change it only thing I change is seat height if I do even that is rare.

I set my angle when I install it and never touch it again.

Since stealth pivotal has come out, I can't understand why they still make regular pivotal seats. As a matter of fact, I can't believe they didn't think of the stealth version initially. Who wants a fucking hole top dead center in a brand new seat? I'd rather ride a tripod, railed, or one piece, before I would ride a seat with a poop hole.

Change it once a year or so, never a drastic change

Always ride fat seats, easier to pinch, look better, and since I’m riding multiple miles, more comfortable

Best part of my seat so far is the durability, it came with my complete bike and I haven’t had a reason to change when I built my own set up, it hasn’t ripped and other than working on the bike upside down and getting the white stitching dirty, the material looks fairly new

I only change my seat angle if I accidentally put it in the wrong place the first time I put it on

The market needs more mid railed seats. Angle roughly the same as downtube

The thing I love most about my seat is that it's not a flimsy pivotal seat

Slight angle up for better barspins and turndown clearance. I've never really noticed much difference in my ability to do certain tricks when it comes to the shape of a seat so I run a slim seat since it looks better than fat seats.

I line mine up close to the top tube, maybe a little flatter and leave it be from there. It's comfortable there and I don't really give it much thought once I set it where I like it. I bought a one piece non adjustable deal from Shadow a couple years back. It was angled up higher than I'd have liked it. Would have made use of some adjustability in that situation, but even then it would have just been to set up initially where I'd prefer it to be.

Once it is set right for my comfort, there is no need to change the angle. Set it upon install, and only do anything if it somehow comes loose or gets replaced.

I have a weird as fuck clamp (like the one you just need to pull it to take the seat out, if you do this often it gets fucked)

I bought a Cult Occult Fat Pivotal Seat + Cult Counter 7061 aluminium seat post. I made my seat angle parallel to my seatstays. I do run a little high seat for pickup bar pinching. (switched from a ripped WTP seat and 1020 hi ten salt seat post)

Sometimes my seat gets loose i just have to put a 6 and tighten it up. I only ran fat pivotal seats and what can i say that is i am really thanked of, no slippery or something like that.

MostlyBowlDoggin wrote:

Slight angle up for better barspins and turndown clearance. I've never really noticed much difference in my ability to do ...more

MostlyBowlDoggin wrote:

Slight angle up for better barspins and turndown clearance. I've never really noticed much difference in my ability to do certain tricks when it comes to the shape of a seat so I run a slim seat since it looks better than fat seats.

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I much prefer slim seats aesthetically, but they hurt more!

julianbmxresearch wrote:

Hi everyone!

I am a designer doing some research into seats and I wanted to ask everyone a very simple question.

For pivotal ...more

julianbmxresearch wrote:

Hi everyone!

I am a designer doing some research into seats and I wanted to ask everyone a very simple question.

For pivotal riders, how often do you change your seat angle?

Often (1+ times a month)
Sometimes (less than once a month)
Rarely (once a year or less)
Never

If you guys don't change it - why not?

I would also love to know what everyone loves most about their seats - no matter what kind you have!

Thanks,

Julian

EDIT: Thank you so much everyone for your responses, they have all been very insightful and there are evidently many strong opinions about. This is invaluable for research and may influence a new product coming soon!

J

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Never change mine. My seats been in the same angle for years cause im using a tripod. Just love how clean it looks.

The poll results speak volumes. Tripod seats are the future, they are stiffer, lighter, AND less bulky. And they are the same price too! The pivotal seat is decade old outdated tech. The logical next step for BMX is tripods, idk why they even still make pivotal seats. They will go the way of the railed.

I just recently caved in and bought my first Pivotal. I was tired of bending and breaking the rails, and after running the Relic and Fly railed posts...the teeth and grooves distort on the clamping mechanism making the post impossible to keep tight. After running these posts, you will see how good the tried and true Thompson posts are.

After a month of riding, and putting it thru its paces...the Pivotal has only loosened once. The one thing i do miss about Railed seats are the adjustibillity of sliding the seat closer to the stem or further back over the rear wheel. Yes there are angled posts but it doesnt give you the adjustibillity, because everybody's frame geo is different and so isn't our bodies. And 71, 70, 69 deg seattube angle respectively are the norm.

falloftroy20 wrote:

The poll results speak volumes. Tripod seats are the future, they are stiffer, lighter, AND less bulky. And they are the same ...more

falloftroy20 wrote:

The poll results speak volumes. Tripod seats are the future, they are stiffer, lighter, AND less bulky. And they are the same price too! The pivotal seat is decade old outdated tech. The logical next step for BMX is tripods, idk why they even still make pivotal seats. They will go the way of the railed.

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Go the way of the railed? As in still available? Tripods give even less adjustability. And the lack of adjustability with pivotal is why I use railed.

falloftroy20 wrote:

The poll results speak volumes. Tripod seats are the future, they are stiffer, lighter, AND less bulky. And they are the same ...more

falloftroy20 wrote:

The poll results speak volumes. Tripod seats are the future, they are stiffer, lighter, AND less bulky. And they are the same price too! The pivotal seat is decade old outdated tech. The logical next step for BMX is tripods, idk why they even still make pivotal seats. They will go the way of the railed.

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Do Tripod posts still have that moronic change of thickness at the top? I think Tripod has a stronger seat design that's lighter and looks better, but I've seen too many break due to such a simple thing.

I like pivotal just because I can Ti the bolt, It's still light, normal or wedge post, second most adjustable. Tripod sucks.
Also I'd rather run railed then tripod if I had the choice between the two.

Does anyone remember when Alienation did a fully adjustable version of a pivotal but no one took interest in it.

I know Mike Fede did a video on it if any one is interested in it, wish they still kept that thing around could have definitely improved upon it.

Cellmember wrote:

Does anyone remember when Alienation did a fully adjustable version of a pivotal but no one took interest in it.

I know Mike ...more

Cellmember wrote:

Does anyone remember when Alienation did a fully adjustable version of a pivotal but no one took interest in it.

I know Mike Fede did a video on it if any one is interested in it, wish they still kept that thing around could have definitely improved upon it.

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That's pretty awesome, they should make a regular full size version of that but stealth style...

Black Swamp Ghost wrote:

That's pretty awesome, they should make a regular full size version of that but stealth style...

Black Swamp Ghost wrote:

That's pretty awesome, they should make a regular full size version of that but stealth style...

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Yep they could do a few different versions.

falloftroy20 wrote:

The poll results speak volumes. Tripod seats are the future, they are stiffer, lighter, AND less bulky. And they are the same ...more

falloftroy20 wrote:

The poll results speak volumes. Tripod seats are the future, they are stiffer, lighter, AND less bulky. And they are the same price too! The pivotal seat is decade old outdated tech. The logical next step for BMX is tripods, idk why they even still make pivotal seats. They will go the way of the railed.

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Xxohioanxx wrote:

Do Tripod posts still have that moronic change of thickness at the top? I think Tripod has a stronger seat design that's ...more

Xxohioanxx wrote:

Do Tripod posts still have that moronic change of thickness at the top? I think Tripod has a stronger seat design that's lighter and looks better, but I've seen too many break due to such a simple thing.

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Bullshit. Flybikes designed the tripod to have the nose closer to the base to retard snapping, unlike pivotal seats which have an unnecessarily long nose prone to snapping after a few times of landing tailwhips or cancans to seat. That's actually what makes tripods the superior seat, regardless of the thickness it is simply a sturdier design.

falloftroy20 wrote:

Bullshit. Flybikes designed the tripod to have the nose closer to the base to retard snapping, unlike pivotal seats which have ...more

falloftroy20 wrote:

Bullshit. Flybikes designed the tripod to have the nose closer to the base to retard snapping, unlike pivotal seats which have an unnecessarily long nose prone to snapping after a few times of landing tailwhips or cancans to seat. That's actually what makes tripods the superior seat, regardless of the thickness it is simply a sturdier design.

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I'm talking broken posts, not seats.

falloftroy20 wrote:

The poll results speak volumes. Tripod seats are the future, they are stiffer, lighter, AND less bulky. And they are the same ...more

falloftroy20 wrote:

The poll results speak volumes. Tripod seats are the future, they are stiffer, lighter, AND less bulky. And they are the same price too! The pivotal seat is decade old outdated tech. The logical next step for BMX is tripods, idk why they even still make pivotal seats. They will go the way of the railed.

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.pegless. wrote:

Go the way of the railed? As in still available? Tripods give even less adjustability. And the lack of adjustability with ...more

.pegless. wrote:

Go the way of the railed? As in still available? Tripods give even less adjustability. And the lack of adjustability with pivotal is why I use railed.

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Lol look at the results of the poll, no one gives a fuck about adjustability. I looked at your bike check, your seat is literally the same position as a tripod with the wedge. And if you did any no footed tricks you would snap that shit in a few sessions catching seat. And, still available? Lmao there are like 2 railed seats on the market versus dozens of pivotals and tripods. Are you really trying to make a point here? Honestly you are just a contrarian, its pointless having any sort of discussion with you.

Xxohioanxx wrote:

Do Tripod posts still have that moronic change of thickness at the top? I think Tripod has a stronger seat design that's ...more

Xxohioanxx wrote:

Do Tripod posts still have that moronic change of thickness at the top? I think Tripod has a stronger seat design that's lighter and looks better, but I've seen too many break due to such a simple thing.

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falloftroy20 wrote:

Bullshit. Flybikes designed the tripod to have the nose closer to the base to retard snapping, unlike pivotal seats which have ...more

falloftroy20 wrote:

Bullshit. Flybikes designed the tripod to have the nose closer to the base to retard snapping, unlike pivotal seats which have an unnecessarily long nose prone to snapping after a few times of landing tailwhips or cancans to seat. That's actually what makes tripods the superior seat, regardless of the thickness it is simply a sturdier design.

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Xxohioanxx wrote:

I'm talking broken posts, not seats.

Xxohioanxx wrote:

I'm talking broken posts, not seats.

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oh idk I've never seen that, and the only result on google brings up your post from like 5 years ago. But I've snapped plastic pivotal posts as well as 1-pc seat posts, so its not exactly a claim you can isolate and direct at tripods.