Best value in a Trail complete?

http://www.danscomp.com/products-BIKES/102342/2014_United_KL40_Pro_Bike.html

Probably the best trail oriented complete you can buy. The KL40 Expert is also awesome if you don't want to spend as much.

Xxohioanxx wrote:

http://www.danscomp.com/products-BIKES/102342/2014_United_KL40_Pro_Bike.html

Probably the best trail oriented complete you ...more

Xxohioanxx wrote:

http://www.danscomp.com/products-BIKES/102342/2014_United_KL40_Pro_Bike.html

Probably the best trail oriented complete you can buy. The KL40 Expert is also awesome if you don't want to spend as much.

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^ This.

I just wanted to mention that the 2014 KL 40 bikes got a few little tweaks that for me really improves the way they feel over the 2013 models. They feel super balanced and smooth.

The KL40 looks like a lot of bike for the $$$.

Also, the Fit BF 3.

http://www.danscomp.com/products-BIKES/102358/2014_Fit_BF_3_Bike.html

Honestly a trail setup is anything you think is comfy, I've ridden super short frames and now run a 21.25" with a short back end. It's all about what feels good, not what a company says is "trails"

Ressler711 wrote:

Honestly a trail setup is anything you think is comfy, I've ridden super short frames and now run a 21.25" with a short back ...more

Ressler711 wrote:

Honestly a trail setup is anything you think is comfy, I've ridden super short frames and now run a 21.25" with a short back end. It's all about what feels good, not what a company says is "trails"

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This^^^
It's what feels right to you. Everyone has their own opinion. Personally I like short chain stays and a steep head tube and small offset forks for any riding I do.
But for some, my setup would be too "twitchy". But it's what I like. To each their own.

Fondue wrote:

Also, the Fit BF 3.

http://www.danscomp.com/products-BIKES/102358/2014_Fit_BF_3_Bike.html

Fondue wrote:

Also, the Fit BF 3.

http://www.danscomp.com/products-BIKES/102358/2014_Fit_BF_3_Bike.html

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BF complete=/=geo from a BF frame

The kl looks good for trails.

Fondue wrote:

Also, the Fit BF 3.

http://www.danscomp.com/products-BIKES/102358/2014_Fit_BF_3_Bike.html

Fondue wrote:

Also, the Fit BF 3.

http://www.danscomp.com/products-BIKES/102358/2014_Fit_BF_3_Bike.html

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Collin_McClenahan wrote:

BF complete=/=geo from a BF frame

Collin_McClenahan wrote:

BF complete=/=geo from a BF frame

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I know. You can still ride trails on it. The CS is longer, and it has 30-10 gearing. Very nice for trails. Also, see Ressler's comment. I think he runs a BTM on trails.

Anything with less than 75 degree head tube angle and longer then 13.5 chain stay is my rule of thumb.

Fondue wrote:

I know. You can still ride trails on it. The CS is longer, and it has 30-10 gearing. Very nice for trails. Also, see Ressler's ...more

Fondue wrote:

I know. You can still ride trails on it. The CS is longer, and it has 30-10 gearing. Very nice for trails. Also, see Ressler's comment. I think he runs a BTM on trails.

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Yessir! I swear it feels a lot longer than it really is, it feels super stable on trails. In my opinion of course.

Ricked_Em wrote:

Anything with less than 75 degree head tube angle and longer then 13.5 chain stay is my rule of thumb.

Ricked_Em wrote:

Anything with less than 75 degree head tube angle and longer then 13.5 chain stay is my rule of thumb.

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Good rule of thumb, but I wouldn't say "anything".

You can definitely ride trails on anything... this video is evidence.

Christian Porras riding trails on a Fit Wifi

At the same time, you can fix just about anything with Vise Grips, but are they really the best tool if you're loosening bolts all day?

Fondue wrote:

Also, the Fit BF 3.

http://www.danscomp.com/products-BIKES/102358/2014_Fit_BF_3_Bike.html

Fondue wrote:

Also, the Fit BF 3.

http://www.danscomp.com/products-BIKES/102358/2014_Fit_BF_3_Bike.html

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Collin_McClenahan wrote:

BF complete=/=geo from a BF frame

Collin_McClenahan wrote:

BF complete=/=geo from a BF frame

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Fondue wrote:

I know. You can still ride trails on it. The CS is longer, and it has 30-10 gearing. Very nice for trails. Also, see Ressler's ...more

Fondue wrote:

I know. You can still ride trails on it. The CS is longer, and it has 30-10 gearing. Very nice for trails. Also, see Ressler's comment. I think he runs a BTM on trails.

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Yeah for sure. But I still think that's retarded as hell for fit to put rider's names on bikes, but not the same geo as that riders signature frame. I have a friend who roasts everything on a 20.75 BTM. I'm not saying you need a "trails" bike to ride trails, I just don't want some one to be like "fuck yeah, the BF frame looks sweet, so I'll get the BF frame" and then have a very different frame.

transition_chris wrote:

You can definitely ride trails on anything... this video is evidence.

Christian Porras riding trails on a Fit Wifi

At the ...more

transition_chris wrote:

You can definitely ride trails on anything... this video is evidence.

Christian Porras riding trails on a Fit Wifi

At the same time, you can fix just about anything with Vise Grips, but are they really the best tool if you're loosening bolts all day?

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wow

Collin_McClenahan wrote:

BF complete=/=geo from a BF frame

Collin_McClenahan wrote:

BF complete=/=geo from a BF frame

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Fondue wrote:

I know. You can still ride trails on it. The CS is longer, and it has 30-10 gearing. Very nice for trails. Also, see Ressler's ...more

Fondue wrote:

I know. You can still ride trails on it. The CS is longer, and it has 30-10 gearing. Very nice for trails. Also, see Ressler's comment. I think he runs a BTM on trails.

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Collin_McClenahan wrote:

Yeah for sure. But I still think that's retarded as hell for fit to put rider's names on bikes, but not the same geo as that ...more

Collin_McClenahan wrote:

Yeah for sure. But I still think that's retarded as hell for fit to put rider's names on bikes, but not the same geo as that riders signature frame. I have a friend who roasts everything on a 20.75 BTM. I'm not saying you need a "trails" bike to ride trails, I just don't want some one to be like "fuck yeah, the BF frame looks sweet, so I'll get the BF frame" and then have a very different frame.

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I'm with you on that. It's annoying, at the least, when someone that doesn't fully understand that there IS a difference between frames made for completes and frames made for aftermarket. Fit makes it more difficult using the same names for most of them.