Can I Isolate the "Hop" Part of a Bunny Hop for Practice?

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9/10/2020 10:27 AM

I've been riding for about 5 weeks and have the pieces of a proper hop and can put them together to get over a curb but that's about it.

I've been filming myself in slow mo to see if I can figure out what I'm doing wrong and I'm definitely losing height by not hopping with both legs so I end up cranking the pedals.




Is there a method to practice the "hop" part on its own to work on keeping my feet level without having to worry about getting all of the steps around it at the same time?

Do I need to just shut the fuck up and ride my bike until I figure it out?
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9/10/2020 10:42 AM

Nice vids, man.
For more height try pulling the bars all the way up to your hips, back straight, leap and push the bars forward (like you're already doing), dip your toes and scoop your feet back and bring them up under your arse when you leave the ground.
But also: shut the fuck up and ride your bike until you figure it out grin

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9/10/2020 12:04 PM

Keep on hopping. Get that front end up steep. You can get the front end of the bike wayyyyy past where it would loop out on a manual, my friend kept worrying about that idk if you’re worried about it. Bars should be up in your lap, and make sure and be quick and explosive with it. As you hop higher and higher your front will be steeper and steeper and you should be exploding harder with your muscles, basically the snap up will take the same time it does now only it’ll all be steeper and higher and you’ll pop harder, if that makes sense... haha.

Tl,dr keep riding

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9/10/2020 3:12 PM

Sounds good thanks guys.

Going to go ride now.

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9/10/2020 6:44 PM

What they said.

When I was first learning them, and what I hear a lot of guys say, is to simply do them literally everywhere. As soon as I had the basic motion, I would make a conscious effort to hop everything. Curbs, cracks in the road, parking lines, leaves, sticks, man hole covers. Treat everything as an obstacle regardless if it actually required a hop to get over it.

I guess it helped me, because there's not a single time I remember really setting aside time to learning bunnyhops just on a bare flat surface.

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9/11/2020 1:34 AM
Edited Date/Time: 9/11/2020 1:36 AM

Oh yeah, something I forgot to mention (that I wish I'd discovered waaay sooner) is to 'pre-load' the pull-up part.
By that I mean; before you pull up, push down hard into the ground through the front forks. Much of that force shoved into the front tyre is briefly stored as potential energy then released as kinetic energy when you pull up (a lot like a spring), providing a bit of a boost for your efforts. Thanks, physics!!
That made all the difference for me.

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9/11/2020 7:13 AM

First: Focus_ST. Do you have one? What year? I got a mundane 2009 4 door normal SE Focus. But I love that car.

2nd: Your hop looks great. Especially for a beginner. And I don't think I can add to what people already said. It's kind of like just do more of what you're already doing.

3rd: geezabmx, that sounds like a good idea. I will try that. I sometimes start lower and think like I'm trying to spring up like a cheetah or cat or something. But I can see how pushing down hard on the way down and then bouncing back up might help the bounce. I'll have to test that theory. I've been lazy with how much I do hops lately cuz I do everything on flat ground and working on other stuff. I do try to add a few in at the end of every session.

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9/11/2020 9:11 AM

Fortyseven wrote:

First: Focus_ST. Do you have one? What year? I got a mundane 2009 4 door normal SE Focus. But I love that car.

2nd: Your hop looks great. Especially for a beginner. And I don't think I can add to what people already said. It's kind of like just do more of what you're already doing.

3rd: geezabmx, that sounds like a good idea. I will try that. I sometimes start lower and think like I'm trying to spring up like a cheetah or cat or something. But I can see how pushing down hard on the way down and then bouncing back up might help the bounce. I'll have to test that theory. I've been lazy with how much I do hops lately cuz I do everything on flat ground and working on other stuff. I do try to add a few in at the end of every session.

Yep I have a 2013 and I love it to death. It's got a JBR counter-weighted shift arm, JBR weighted solid shifter cable bushings, an MBRP 3in catback and a Focus RS airbox with a Cobb dual cone filter for maximum SUCC and because I broke the original airbox by touching it wrong. Can't forget the Cobb shift knob that adds a solid 5hp.

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9/11/2020 5:29 PM

Fortyseven wrote:

First: Focus_ST. Do you have one? What year? I got a mundane 2009 4 door normal SE Focus. But I love that car.

2nd: Your hop looks great. Especially for a beginner. And I don't think I can add to what people already said. It's kind of like just do more of what you're already doing.

3rd: geezabmx, that sounds like a good idea. I will try that. I sometimes start lower and think like I'm trying to spring up like a cheetah or cat or something. But I can see how pushing down hard on the way down and then bouncing back up might help the bounce. I'll have to test that theory. I've been lazy with how much I do hops lately cuz I do everything on flat ground and working on other stuff. I do try to add a few in at the end of every session.

focus_st wrote:

Yep I have a 2013 and I love it to death. It's got a JBR counter-weighted shift arm, JBR weighted solid shifter cable bushings, an MBRP 3in catback and a Focus RS airbox with a Cobb dual cone filter for maximum SUCC and because I broke the original airbox by touching it wrong. Can't forget the Cobb shift knob that adds a solid 5hp.

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I almost bought a 2013. Ended up with a fiesta st at the time cause it was so damn fun on the corners. Now I have an STI and an f-150, covered on both fronts

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9/12/2020 7:41 AM

jboozer4 wrote:

I almost bought a 2013. Ended up with a fiesta st at the time cause it was so damn fun on the corners. Now I have an STI and an f-150, covered on both fronts

I love the Fiesta. It's an absolute gokart for sure. The Focus definitely has more grunt to it but being able to keep the Fiesta pinned all the time on hoon sessions is arguably more fun.

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9/12/2020 10:12 PM

+1 on the Mk2 focus hatch. Great car. Got one recently with only 60k km on the clock.

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9/14/2020 5:45 AM

geezabmx wrote:

Oh yeah, something I forgot to mention (that I wish I'd discovered waaay sooner) is to 'pre-load' the pull-up part.
By that I mean; before you pull up, push down hard into the ground through the front forks. Much of that force shoved into the front tyre is briefly stored as potential energy then released as kinetic energy when you pull up (a lot like a spring), providing a bit of a boost for your efforts. Thanks, physics!!
That made all the difference for me.

Bro. I owe you. The pushdown worked. It finally clicked.

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9/14/2020 9:48 AM
Edited Date/Time: 9/14/2020 9:50 AM

Fortyseven wrote:

First: Focus_ST. Do you have one? What year? I got a mundane 2009 4 door normal SE Focus. But I love that car.

2nd: Your hop looks great. Especially for a beginner. And I don't think I can add to what people already said. It's kind of like just do more of what you're already doing.

3rd: geezabmx, that sounds like a good idea. I will try that. I sometimes start lower and think like I'm trying to spring up like a cheetah or cat or something. But I can see how pushing down hard on the way down and then bouncing back up might help the bounce. I'll have to test that theory. I've been lazy with how much I do hops lately cuz I do everything on flat ground and working on other stuff. I do try to add a few in at the end of every session.

focus_st wrote:

Yep I have a 2013 and I love it to death. It's got a JBR counter-weighted shift arm, JBR weighted solid shifter cable bushings, an MBRP 3in catback and a Focus RS airbox with a Cobb dual cone filter for maximum SUCC and because I broke the original airbox by touching it wrong. Can't forget the Cobb shift knob that adds a solid 5hp.

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If it's not a white ball shifter, I don't want to hear about it. LOL.

I've never had one but I always wanted one.

Super duper nice car. I also like the Fiesta ST's.

I forgot to try the push down part on my hops last night... Thanks for the reminder.

It was the first time I was on my bmx in like a week cuz of all the rain. I still nailed my 720 no lift barspins. Woooohooooo.

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9/14/2020 10:13 AM

Pull up with your arms and then pull your legs up like your jumping up steps. From there just do them all the time because you use that motion for everything.

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9/14/2020 10:53 AM
Edited Date/Time: 9/15/2020 12:00 PM

I'm going to try this "pre-load" along with the 1st arms then legs technique(s) tonight hopefully once I fix the front wheel I put on backwards lol on my new L100.

Been 30 years since I did anything on a BMX so it'll be like learning all over again. I'll also see very quickly how out of shape I am too lmao!

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9/15/2020 9:34 AM

I did that before. Put my front on backwards. LOL. No biggie, you cand just flip the whole wheel around on the front.

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9/15/2020 11:16 AM

Lean back a bit and get your ass over the rear before pulling up.

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9/16/2020 9:04 AM

I grew up bunny hopping the “old-school” (wrong) way by basically pushing the bike up and then hopping. I could usually get two feet on a good day but my form was absolute shit and I had very little control when it came to actually landing, which made grinding a hit or miss exercise.

Since I picked up riding again in my late thirties I made a conscious effort to practice my hops the correct way. As simple as a bunny hop seems it is actually a combination of multiple steps compressed into a split second (compress the front wheel, pull up the bars, push out the bars before looping out, hopping/tucking).

Instead of overthinking every little step I just focused on one thing: touching my ass to the back tire. by focusing on this one thing my body just naturally performed all of the steps once I jerked the front wheel.

Keep riding

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9/17/2020 10:43 AM

Fortyseven wrote:

If it's not a white ball shifter, I don't want to hear about it. LOL.

I've never had one but I always wanted one.

Super duper nice car. I also like the Fiesta ST's.

I forgot to try the push down part on my hops last night... Thanks for the reminder.

It was the first time I was on my bmx in like a week cuz of all the rain. I still nailed my 720 no lift barspins. Woooohooooo.

Why would it be anything else? Photo

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9/18/2020 8:11 AM

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't even know they made white ones for new cars. LOL. It's a little different than what I'm talking about but very cool.

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9/18/2020 10:11 AM

I'm liking these newer Fords. On of these might make a nice little daily driver when I stop being cheap and fooling with all this old stuff. For now though, I do have a little Ford project of my own. It's a 2.3 4cyl, with a little more compression than stock, aftermarket cam, and some head work. Throwing on a weber carb and some new fuel parts to get it running again after many years of sitting. I checked the other day that the motor turns over, so next job is cleaning everything up.

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And the shifter:

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9/18/2020 10:54 AM

Nice motor thread! Here’s my ford build. Used to be a 351m, stroked it to a 400 and did a mild build on it back in high school. It’s in my 78 Bronco.
Before/After:
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9/18/2020 8:12 PM

^Hell yeah! You’ve got good taste in parts. I see Edelbrock stuff. Hang onto that Bronco. The older gens getting harder to find these days.

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9/19/2020 5:31 AM

upnsmoke wrote:

^Hell yeah! You’ve got good taste in parts. I see Edelbrock stuff. Hang onto that Bronco. The older gens getting harder to find these days.

For sure, thanks man! It’s going to my future kid if we decide to have them! My dad bought it in ‘82, hung onto it then we restored it like ten years ago when I was in high school and he passed it along to me so she’s staying in the family. Your truck is sweet too, my best buddy and I used to mob around in his white 87 ranger raising hell it brings back some memories!

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9/19/2020 7:55 AM
Edited Date/Time: 9/19/2020 8:00 AM

I love me some Ford 4 cylinders. Long live the 2.3!!!! I got a 2.0 in my focus and the monster 2.5 in my fusion. Love that engine. My son has a Mazda Tribute which is just an Escape with the 2.5. I know those are different engines than the 2.3 but nevertheless, still cool. I think these duratecs were a Mazda design.

Anyways... I hope there is a way you can keep us posted on your progress of your Ranger build upnsmoke. Are you doing an instagram page with progress or anything like that. I would love to follow that.

jboozer4, looking really good!!! I'm an oddball. I grew up liking hot rods and I had a few cars with V-8's but for some reason I'm a 4 cylinder junkie. That being said I like v-8's too. I think it's mostly cuz the only money I have is for normal cars. LOL. I don't have the money, room and knowhow to do a build on an older V-8 car. But I also like the smaller cars a lot. Older Ford Escorts, Cortinas. Mmmmmmm.....

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Foldmotors.net%2Face-archbishop-ford-cortina-mk1-gt%2F&psig=AOvVaw2i2VTxBrPmXEukXW2nQqAb&ust=1600613922849000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCJjD7dW99esCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAJ

https://classicsworld.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/1972-Ford-Escort-Mexico-00-820x547.jpg

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9/20/2020 1:01 AM

Fortyseven wrote:

I love me some Ford 4 cylinders. Long live the 2.3!!!! I got a 2.0 in my focus and the monster 2.5 in my fusion. Love that engine. My son has a Mazda Tribute which is just an Escape with the 2.5. I know those are different engines than the 2.3 but nevertheless, still cool. I think these duratecs were a Mazda design.

Anyways... I hope there is a way you can keep us posted on your progress of your Ranger build upnsmoke. Are you doing an instagram page with progress or anything like that. I would love to follow that.

jboozer4, looking really good!!! I'm an oddball. I grew up liking hot rods and I had a few cars with V-8's but for some reason I'm a 4 cylinder junkie. That being said I like v-8's too. I think it's mostly cuz the only money I have is for normal cars. LOL. I don't have the money, room and knowhow to do a build on an older V-8 car. But I also like the smaller cars a lot. Older Ford Escorts, Cortinas. Mmmmmmm.....

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Foldmotors.net%2Face-archbishop-ford-cortina-mk1-gt%2F&psig=AOvVaw2i2VTxBrPmXEukXW2nQqAb&ust=1600613922849000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCJjD7dW99esCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAJ

https://classicsworld.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/1972-Ford-Escort-Mexico-00-820x547.jpg

Four cylinders got a place in my heart too! I have a weird mix also, my dad got me hooked on hot rods and big displacement but I love the technology and everything going into the small engines. The fact that my STI is probably making better numbers from a 2.5 four cylinder than the 6.6L v8 in my old bronco still blows my mind when I think about it. The technology these days is amazing. Only problem for me with it is going to be further down the road on projects... I’m fully confident working on old cars and trucks, NA carbureted motors you tune with a timing light and a flathead screwdriver! But me and my future son can’t just casually rebuild something like the ecoboost my 2018 f-150 has as a project in the garage ourselves.

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9/21/2020 7:19 AM

As I get older I'm no loner all about HP. If I was ever going to do a car it would be rather mundane I think . It's nice to have power to get up and get going but to be honest the cars I had that were my favorite were little 4 cylinder imports. They feel like your driving. When just driving around town. I had a 1982 Civic and a 1995 Tercel that there was just something super fun about driving them.

I miss driving stick. I tried to teach my wife a few times and it never worked out. So we never had any manual shifting cars since I've been married. Pray for me. smile

I would love to do like a late 80's Escort GT. Or even just a normal Escort. I would try to build up the 4 cylinder somewhat for more power than stock but nothing outrageous or loud. I don't like a lot of the lot rattly sounding aftermarket exhausts. To me there just annoying. Just the other day there was a guy in our subdivision with bumble bee paint scheme Dodge Charger, I'm not sure if they made them in an RT form but he was giving it and the sound is just yuck to me. I like the low rumble of a V-8 or any engine but once it gets up in that annoying slapping sound, it sounds like the exhaust is coming apart and it's piercing.

Yeah, just give me the low rumble.... LOL.

Anyways... this is what happens to some of us as we get old. I had a Camaro and a Chevelle with 350's and lots of power when I was in my younger days and that was fun but now I think I'd have more fun with a Model T 4 banger. LOL. Or here's another one for you... super small displacement V-8's. Like in the beginning of small blocks they were like 260 displacement. I think Ford had a small block like that. That in a Falcon would be wonderful.

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9/21/2020 3:14 PM

Fortyseven wrote:

As I get older I'm no loner all about HP. If I was ever going to do a car it would be rather mundane I think . It's nice to have power to get up and get going but to be honest the cars I had that were my favorite were little 4 cylinder imports. They feel like your driving. When just driving around town. I had a 1982 Civic and a 1995 Tercel that there was just something super fun about driving them.

I miss driving stick. I tried to teach my wife a few times and it never worked out. So we never had any manual shifting cars since I've been married. Pray for me. smile

I would love to do like a late 80's Escort GT. Or even just a normal Escort. I would try to build up the 4 cylinder somewhat for more power than stock but nothing outrageous or loud. I don't like a lot of the lot rattly sounding aftermarket exhausts. To me there just annoying. Just the other day there was a guy in our subdivision with bumble bee paint scheme Dodge Charger, I'm not sure if they made them in an RT form but he was giving it and the sound is just yuck to me. I like the low rumble of a V-8 or any engine but once it gets up in that annoying slapping sound, it sounds like the exhaust is coming apart and it's piercing.

Yeah, just give me the low rumble.... LOL.

Anyways... this is what happens to some of us as we get old. I had a Camaro and a Chevelle with 350's and lots of power when I was in my younger days and that was fun but now I think I'd have more fun with a Model T 4 banger. LOL. Or here's another one for you... super small displacement V-8's. Like in the beginning of small blocks they were like 260 displacement. I think Ford had a small block like that. That in a Falcon would be wonderful.

Most definitely. All the mustangs and camaros sound the same these days. Those small displacement v8s can move too... you can destroke them and get a high revving monster build going. Do the escort! You can get manual just tell the old lady not to try driving it lol. I’m trying to do a small block v8 in a 1956 f-100. It’s a y-block 312, it was the motor to have in the 50s. They’re very rare these days!

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9/21/2020 4:53 PM

I know plenty of people who traded/sold their Mustang for a FiST. Nowhere to really enjoy the car and the power according to them. Not one regretted their decision.

More fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow!

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9/21/2020 9:23 PM

Fortyseven, I have an instantgram. Never used it for anything, but this may be a good excuse to play around with it. My daily driver is an 89 sr5 Corolla with a stock 1.6 and an automatic. Slow as hell, but has koni’s gc coils, and Dunlop star specs. Goes through a corner at genuinely frightening speeds.

The feeling of being accelerated just never gets old, I think, be it going stopping or turning. I have a Suzuki Bandit 12 for when I get the itch for something really quick.

Boozer, sounds like you have some seriously cool builds going. Would be cool to see some more of your work.

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