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12/17/2015 11:26 AM

He seemed to fit in well there.. weird




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12/17/2015 12:16 PM

I did.. The guy partially owns Cult and runs a majority of Cult Parts as it is. Bars, frame, cranks (all signature). It's where he can make more money probably. Sucks for Odyssey. He is so good, but they won't hurt too much. Only thing that sucks for them is the tire they based all the others they have now was his signature!

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12/17/2015 12:41 PM

I clicked on this thinking it was some kind of joke but wow, did not expect that at all.

I was reading comments on instagram and apparently he "wasn't putting in enough effort with Odyssey" or something?

Weird.


Sucks though, I'm sure a rider like him won't have trouble picking up another parts sponsor. Now the speculation begins…

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12/17/2015 12:46 PM

odyssey kick him...

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12/17/2015 12:49 PM

Surprise, surprise.

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12/17/2015 1:15 PM

It's time for me to stop supporting Odyssey

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12/17/2015 1:40 PM

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It's time for me to stop supporting Odyssey

because they no longer sponsor chase hawk? is he your dad or something lol

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12/17/2015 1:49 PM

Pegless_215 wrote:

It's time for me to stop supporting Odyssey

ticaleb wrote:

because they no longer sponsor chase hawk? is he your dad or something lol

Uhhhh, no, I'm older than Chase is...

They let go of the one of the truest to BMX guys on their team. Apparently he wasn't productive enough for them? The guy had signature parts falling out the company's ass. What more were they looking for?

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12/17/2015 1:51 PM

Pegless_215 wrote:

Uhhhh, no, I'm older than Chase is...

They let go of the one of the truest to BMX guys on their team. Apparently he wasn't productive enough for them? The guy had signature parts falling out the company's ass. What more were they looking for?

Like what? A sprocket and tires? All of his major sig parts (aka money makers) came out through cult. He not profitable for odyssey anymore. Sucks but its the way the world works

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12/17/2015 2:02 PM
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ticaleb wrote:

because they no longer sponsor chase hawk? is he your dad or something lol

Pegless_215 wrote:

Uhhhh, no, I'm older than Chase is...

They let go of the one of the truest to BMX guys on their team. Apparently he wasn't productive enough for them? The guy had signature parts falling out the company's ass. What more were they looking for?

Ricked_Em wrote:

Like what? A sprocket and tires? All of his major sig parts (aka money makers) came out through cult. He not profitable for odyssey anymore. Sucks but its the way the world works

There aren't many signature parts they could make with his name on it in addition to what he already has aside from grips and bars. He had a stem already, that probably got pulled because it wasn't a topload. He had a seat but it didn't have faggy colored prints on it.

It's a little unheard of to drop a guy because he has a main sponsor too.

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12/17/2015 2:05 PM

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There aren't many signature parts they could make with his name on it in addition to what he already has aside from grips and bars. He had a stem already, that probably got pulled because it wasn't a topload. He had a seat but it didn't have faggy colored prints on it.

It's a little unheard of to drop a guy because he has a main sponsor too.

Not really. Tree stopped making frames because it allowed them to be able to sponsor more people without interfering with riders current sponsors.

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12/17/2015 2:16 PM

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Not really. Tree stopped making frames because it allowed them to be able to sponsor more people without interfering with riders current sponsors.

I'm confused by your reply.

Yes, Tree stopped production of frames and became strictly a parts/accessories company. The guys riding tree frames were then able to go pick up a new frame sponsor in addition to their tree sponsorship so they could be afforded new/better opportunities they weren't going to get from Tree. All while retaining their sponsorship from Tree.

Odyssey on the other hand, has never been a frame manufacturer. They deal in parts and accessories only. They aren't someone's main ride. They aren't Chase's main sponsor.

How is Tree even relevant to the conversation?

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12/17/2015 2:18 PM

Because Chase has moved basically all of his big parts as cult now. Why would odyssey want to support someone who is releasing his own parts (odysseys only products) on another brand.

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12/17/2015 2:29 PM

Because they're a parts sponsor. He has a frame and bars through cult. I was mistaken, he does/did have Odyssey sig grips. As far as I know that's it.

So lets put this straight out there: he's had all the signature parts for odyssey that they offer aside from handlebars.

So they dropped him because he didn't have them do his bars?

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12/17/2015 3:00 PM

Pegless_215 wrote:

I'm confused by your reply.

Yes, Tree stopped production of frames and became strictly a parts/accessories company. The guys riding tree frames were then able to go pick up a new frame sponsor in addition to their tree sponsorship so they could be afforded new/better opportunities they weren't going to get from Tree. All while retaining their sponsorship from Tree.

Odyssey on the other hand, has never been a frame manufacturer. They deal in parts and accessories only. They aren't someone's main ride. They aren't Chase's main sponsor.

How is Tree even relevant to the conversation?

This is a partially true statement. Flatware made a frame, and flatware is Odyssey's flatland stuff.

Fairdale is under the same roof from what I understand too.

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12/17/2015 3:11 PM

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Because they're a parts sponsor. He has a frame and bars through cult. I was mistaken, he does/did have Odyssey sig grips. As far as I know that's it.

So lets put this straight out there: he's had all the signature parts for odyssey that they offer aside from handlebars.

So they dropped him because he didn't have them do his bars?

he also has a sig crank from cult

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12/17/2015 3:13 PM

dave lawrence wrote:

This is a partially true statement. Flatware made a frame, and flatware is Odyssey's flatland stuff.

Fairdale is under the same roof from what I understand too.

You could also say that Sunday is Odyssey's frame company. But they are two separate entities. Regardless of how close the companies are. You can be sponsored by Sunday and not Odyssey and what have you.

It really doesn't matter either way.

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12/17/2015 3:15 PM

Pegless_215 wrote:

Because they're a parts sponsor. He has a frame and bars through cult. I was mistaken, he does/did have Odyssey sig grips. As far as I know that's it.

So lets put this straight out there: he's had all the signature parts for odyssey that they offer aside from handlebars.

So they dropped him because he didn't have them do his bars?

ironmaiden666 wrote:

he also has a sig crank from cult

Odyssey does not make signature cranks, as they do not make signature hubs, rims, seatposts, headsets, etc.

If someone else is willing to make sig cranks for him than odyssey should be stoked on that.

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12/17/2015 3:22 PM
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He's a former x games gold medalist chances are he has an agent to do his buisiness for him , that agent is smart enough to realize he's an x games gold medalist and a hot name to sell product and probably demanded more money for his next contract , with how big the oddysey team is and how tough times are in the bmx industry right now they probably couldn't afford him , being pro is about making money it's a job

Oddysey seems to be more about supporting up and comers , I can't think of to many big name riders (Gary youngs about all I can think of currently) who sell lots of products and win gold medals at high profile contests like x games who rode for oddysey , they're not big enough , nasty is the biggest name I can think of other then that and he probably didn't give a fuck because they where giving him free decent quality parts to stick on his huffy stickered s&m frame and he was already making stupid amounts from his other endorsement deals anyways

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12/17/2015 3:23 PM

Pegless_215 wrote:

Because they're a parts sponsor. He has a frame and bars through cult. I was mistaken, he does/did have Odyssey sig grips. As far as I know that's it.

So lets put this straight out there: he's had all the signature parts for odyssey that they offer aside from handlebars.

So they dropped him because he didn't have them do his bars?

So isn't it more that he USED to have all his signature parts that Odyssey offers aside from bars thru Odyssey?

And now he doesn't. that's the point: the % of his parts on Odyssey has been declining and % from Cult has been increasing simultaneously.
Since all Odyssey does is parts...

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12/17/2015 3:57 PM
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I could see Gary young being the next to go those x games winning riders are worth allot to sell product for your brand

They all have a humble image to them with loyalty to their brands because that's their job , but at the end of the day it's their job and they need to provide best for their families

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12/17/2015 5:07 PM

eskimojay wrote:

I could see Gary young being the next to go those x games winning riders are worth allot to sell product for your brand

They all have a humble image to them with loyalty to their brands because that's their job , but at the end of the day it's their job and they need to provide best for their families

Nah he is on Sunday too though, Odyssey's thing. Plus as far as I know, he is still really productive.

Etnies Video better be damn sweet to lose a sponsorship over.

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12/17/2015 5:12 PM

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Nah he is on Sunday too though, Odyssey's thing. Plus as far as I know, he is still really productive.

Etnies Video better be damn sweet to lose a sponsorship over.

grounded was pretty incredible if you've never seen it so it will probably be quite insane

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12/17/2015 5:19 PM

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So isn't it more that he USED to have all his signature parts that Odyssey offers aside from bars thru Odyssey?

And now he doesn't. that's the point: the % of his parts on Odyssey has been declining and % from Cult has been increasing simultaneously.
Since all Odyssey does is parts...

Just cause something was the case doesn't mean it still is

To argue that the guy is irrelevant or non marketable in BMX is crazy. I'm sure if they went to him and said "hey we want to revamp some of your shit, you down?" I would find it hard to believe he wouldn't be into it.

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12/17/2015 5:23 PM

I don't know why we're getting hung up on what signature parts the guy has or doesn't have. I really don't think that parts are what any of this is about anyway.

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12/17/2015 5:36 PM

Pegless_215 wrote:

Because they're a parts sponsor. He has a frame and bars through cult. I was mistaken, he does/did have Odyssey sig grips. As far as I know that's it.

So lets put this straight out there: he's had all the signature parts for odyssey that they offer aside from handlebars.

So they dropped him because he didn't have them do his bars?

Charliekeet wrote:

So isn't it more that he USED to have all his signature parts that Odyssey offers aside from bars thru Odyssey?

And now he doesn't. that's the point: the % of his parts on Odyssey has been declining and % from Cult has been increasing simultaneously.
Since all Odyssey does is parts...

Just cause something was the case doesn't mean it still is

Pegless_215 wrote:

To argue that the guy is irrelevant or non marketable in BMX is crazy. I'm sure if they went to him and said "hey we want to revamp some of your shit, you down?" I would find it hard to believe he wouldn't be into it.

bmx is more and more about money now than ever...

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12/17/2015 5:40 PM

Yeah, hell, look at Stranger.