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10/11/2019 1:02 PM

Hi, my custom coaster is dying I switched driver, clutch, bearing and axle many times, the only original part is the shell.
My clucth and bearings are fucked and I’ll probably need a new axle too soon for my liking.
So nearly 100 to spend, why not get a brand new coaster, I found two interesting deals at 120€.

So Eclat Cortex vs Shadow optimized.

The eclat internals seem interesting with the triple spring balls, less friction (the classic system litterally digged into my last clutch (primo) generally the balls get worned out first, shitiest clutch ever).
And the shadow, I didn’t found anything about the internals, but I saw an axle alone for sale which didn’t seem to have a hole for spring balls so I’m intrigued... anybody have experiences with any of these ?

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10/11/2019 1:29 PM

Odyssey clutch v2

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10/11/2019 1:49 PM

they're all the same. get a z-coaster

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fack off

10/11/2019 3:14 PM

adamnmexican wrote:

they're all the same. get a z-coaster

I'm a true coaster guy, I don't need a weird half casette.
(and it is way off budget anyway)

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10/11/2019 3:18 PM

.pegless. wrote:

Odyssey clutch v2

Meh... I don't like the idea of plastic internals.

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10/11/2019 7:36 PM

.pegless. wrote:

Odyssey clutch v2

Francky wrote:

Meh... I don't like the idea of plastic internals.

The internals have a lifetime warranty. And the only issue I’ve ever heard with them was Tim’s, and that was the shell/clutch. I had a v1 and didn’t have a single issue. It’s a pretty special plastic that wears a lot less than metal on metal

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10/11/2019 10:33 PM

.pegless. wrote:

Odyssey clutch v2

Francky wrote:

Meh... I don't like the idea of plastic internals.

Clutch v2 is super strong and odyssey is good w hooking u up w parts If they break.

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10/11/2019 11:33 PM
Edited Date/Time: 10/11/2019 11:33 PM

Odyssey clutch v2 is pretty much best coaster available

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10/12/2019 11:02 AM

I agree, Odyssey has sent me parts if anything fails. If they cant get you twken care of they will most likely send out a full replacement. They have excellent customer service!

You might have a hard time finding a clutch v2 for 100 bucks though...

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10/13/2019 7:34 AM
Edited Date/Time: 10/13/2019 7:42 AM

.pegless. wrote:

Odyssey clutch v2

Francky wrote:

Meh... I don't like the idea of plastic internals.

.pegless. wrote:

The internals have a lifetime warranty. And the only issue I’ve ever heard with them was Tim’s, and that was the shell/clutch. I had a v1 and didn’t have a single issue. It’s a pretty special plastic that wears a lot less than metal on metal

I actually “broke” every single piece of that hub except for the hub shell and NDS Cone, all while riding around with a non-functional wrist post-surgeries. The parts in that hub would literally fail quicker than they could replace them for me. And their solution to the issue was to have me mail them my wheel to have it “modified”😂 What a joke, right?

The modification lasted 1month and then the hub developed infinite-slack. When I emailed them about it, they told me that they figured that would happen (again, what a joke, right?)

After a full year of me running through internal parts & expressing my absolute displeasure with this garbage hub, they finally offered to replace it, but insisted that they send me a black one instead - because the functionality and design of the Clutch hub is altered per every batch they manufacture (& they only made that 1 batch of Polished hubs.)


At the end of the day, they went above and beyond to make me happy and get my bike dialed, so I can’t be mad.
But.. I highly recommend choosing literally any other Freecoaster than the Clutch hub, since there is no way to determine if the hub you order will be coming from a good batch, a crank-flipping batch, or even a defective batch.
And god forbid if you end up with a defective hub, their warranty department would rather beat around the bush and waste a year of your time than get a new hub to you promptly.

Sucks that I had to learn all that the hard way but it is what it is I guess lol.

Edit;
P.S. I owned a different Clutch v2 prior to my wrist surgeries (when I rode hard) for almost 2 years and it was the best hub I ever owned. Never had to replace a single part, just did routine maintenance to keep it greased and dialed. My opinion on them is based entirely upon the fact that they change them up between batches & BS’d me around on warranty for a year.

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10/13/2019 11:53 AM

Francky wrote:

Meh... I don't like the idea of plastic internals.

.pegless. wrote:

The internals have a lifetime warranty. And the only issue I’ve ever heard with them was Tim’s, and that was the shell/clutch. I had a v1 and didn’t have a single issue. It’s a pretty special plastic that wears a lot less than metal on metal

HardBMX_Tim wrote:

I actually “broke” every single piece of that hub except for the hub shell and NDS Cone, all while riding around with a non-functional wrist post-surgeries. The parts in that hub would literally fail quicker than they could replace them for me. And their solution to the issue was to have me mail them my wheel to have it “modified”😂 What a joke, right?

The modification lasted 1month and then the hub developed infinite-slack. When I emailed them about it, they told me that they figured that would happen (again, what a joke, right?)

After a full year of me running through internal parts & expressing my absolute displeasure with this garbage hub, they finally offered to replace it, but insisted that they send me a black one instead - because the functionality and design of the Clutch hub is altered per every batch they manufacture (& they only made that 1 batch of Polished hubs.)


At the end of the day, they went above and beyond to make me happy and get my bike dialed, so I can’t be mad.
But.. I highly recommend choosing literally any other Freecoaster than the Clutch hub, since there is no way to determine if the hub you order will be coming from a good batch, a crank-flipping batch, or even a defective batch.
And god forbid if you end up with a defective hub, their warranty department would rather beat around the bush and waste a year of your time than get a new hub to you promptly.

Sucks that I had to learn all that the hard way but it is what it is I guess lol.

Edit;
P.S. I owned a different Clutch v2 prior to my wrist surgeries (when I rode hard) for almost 2 years and it was the best hub I ever owned. Never had to replace a single part, just did routine maintenance to keep it greased and dialed. My opinion on them is based entirely upon the fact that they change them up between batches & BS’d me around on warranty for a year.

If I recall correctly you didn’t exactly treat that hub very well. I’m sure I saw a video of you smashing your cranks and forcing them round that you posted on Facebook? If a part doesn’t work how it should, you fix it or get it fixed, not ride it and abuse it to make it worse.

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10/13/2019 12:19 PM

.pegless. wrote:

The internals have a lifetime warranty. And the only issue I’ve ever heard with them was Tim’s, and that was the shell/clutch. I had a v1 and didn’t have a single issue. It’s a pretty special plastic that wears a lot less than metal on metal

HardBMX_Tim wrote:

I actually “broke” every single piece of that hub except for the hub shell and NDS Cone, all while riding around with a non-functional wrist post-surgeries. The parts in that hub would literally fail quicker than they could replace them for me. And their solution to the issue was to have me mail them my wheel to have it “modified”😂 What a joke, right?

The modification lasted 1month and then the hub developed infinite-slack. When I emailed them about it, they told me that they figured that would happen (again, what a joke, right?)

After a full year of me running through internal parts & expressing my absolute displeasure with this garbage hub, they finally offered to replace it, but insisted that they send me a black one instead - because the functionality and design of the Clutch hub is altered per every batch they manufacture (& they only made that 1 batch of Polished hubs.)


At the end of the day, they went above and beyond to make me happy and get my bike dialed, so I can’t be mad.
But.. I highly recommend choosing literally any other Freecoaster than the Clutch hub, since there is no way to determine if the hub you order will be coming from a good batch, a crank-flipping batch, or even a defective batch.
And god forbid if you end up with a defective hub, their warranty department would rather beat around the bush and waste a year of your time than get a new hub to you promptly.

Sucks that I had to learn all that the hard way but it is what it is I guess lol.

Edit;
P.S. I owned a different Clutch v2 prior to my wrist surgeries (when I rode hard) for almost 2 years and it was the best hub I ever owned. Never had to replace a single part, just did routine maintenance to keep it greased and dialed. My opinion on them is based entirely upon the fact that they change them up between batches & BS’d me around on warranty for a year.

.pegless. wrote:

If I recall correctly you didn’t exactly treat that hub very well. I’m sure I saw a video of you smashing your cranks and forcing them round that you posted on Facebook? If a part doesn’t work how it should, you fix it or get it fixed, not ride it and abuse it to make it worse.

Yes indeed, I smashed my pedal with a shovel in a video to send odyssey - in response to them telling me that the “drag” I was experiencing was completely normal. The video displayed that absolutely no amount of force could make the cranks spin like they said they should, and even advertise on their website that the hub is “crankflip ready”.

In fact, even they agreed it was not normal once they had it in their own hands, and they still chose to “modify” it and send it back to me for it to fail some more, knowing that it would fail more.

This was also AFTER a handful of parts had failed and been replaced, even though I could barely bunnyhop at the time they were failing (so the hub barely saw any use outside of literally cruising it around town)

No I do not beat my bike with a shovel on a regular basis for the hell of it. Don’t be silly.

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