Cult Match/Primo Mix hub first impression

I just ordered the match wheel on Wednesday, along with a sunday knox 28t.. took me a few days to decide what to get.. looked at the cinema and odyssey wheels, and also the primo balance, since i don't know how to lace a wheel yet and just really wanted a replacement for my chrome hazard lite that got stolen.. when i saw that it came in chrome and the hub uses mix internals, i went ahead and ordered.. and thanks to the good fellas at albe's, who advised on the ins and outs of wheel specs.. it should be a nice upgrade.. cheers, enjoy!!

You can NEVER go wrong with a mix. I've had several hubs and the mix topped them all.

I may have to get a cunt hub in the future

just for future reference @maximusbikes bearings roll for ages when spun when theyre fucked. they shouldnt roll for ages if theyre in good nick

Caelum Persson wrote:

just for future reference @maximusbikes bearings roll for ages when spun when theyre fucked. they shouldnt roll for ages if theyre in good nick

Yeah i know haha its all good! I didnt expect it to do that lol

OneEyeIlluminatiGuy wrote:

I may have to get a cunt hub in the future

Do it man. I know you hate them, but it is really primo. and i think that cult thing would come off if you wanted it to lol

Caelum Persson wrote:

just for future reference @maximusbikes bearings roll for ages when spun when theyre fucked. they shouldnt roll for ages if theyre in good nick

Guess the bearings in my friend's brand new Tree hub were fucked then.

Caelum Persson wrote:

just for future reference @maximusbikes bearings roll for ages when spun when theyre fucked. they shouldnt roll for ages if theyre in good nick

Xxohioanxx wrote:

Guess the bearings in my friend's brand new Tree hub were fucked then.

Idk about that man haha i got a new hub a while ago and it would spin for ages. It really depends on the bearings. haha Some bearings are different

Jèff_Béckförd wrote:

I just ordered the match wheel on Wednesday, along with a sunday knox 28t.. took me a few days to decide what to get.. looked at the cinema and odyssey wheels, and also the primo balance, since i don't know how to lace a wheel yet and just really wanted a replacement for my chrome hazard lite that got stolen.. when i saw that it came in chrome and the hub uses mix internals, i went ahead and ordered.. and thanks to the good fellas at albe's, who advised on the ins and outs of wheel specs.. it should be a nice upgrade.. cheers, enjoy!!

http://www.gsport.co.uk/custom/wheel_build/wheels.html
there is a guide that should really help you on lacing a wheel

I'm riding a Primo mix now and it's a pretty good hub.

Jèff_Béckförd wrote:

I just ordered the match wheel on Wednesday, along with a sunday knox 28t.. took me a few days to decide what to get.. looked at the cinema and odyssey wheels, and also the primo balance, since i don't know how to lace a wheel yet and just really wanted a replacement for my chrome hazard lite that got stolen.. when i saw that it came in chrome and the hub uses mix internals, i went ahead and ordered.. and thanks to the good fellas at albe's, who advised on the ins and outs of wheel specs.. it should be a nice upgrade.. cheers, enjoy!!

jamiespadina wrote:

http://www.gsport.co.uk/custom/wheel_build/wheels.html
there is a guide that should really help you on lacing a wheel

Ahh i like that tutorial a lot. this one is better for 36 spoked wheels, although i have memorized how to do it now: http://sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html

I like that because it uses the color coordination making it easier to learn.

I think I might get one of those in the future. They seem pretty good and are pretty cheap.

Had that hub for about... i dont even know maybe 6-10 months? lol idk. but i love it, never had a single problem with it, have it laced to an Odyssey hazard lite. love it.

I was wondering, tho ive never checked...does it have reversible pawls? cuz im getting new cranks soon and would like to switch my drivetrain to left side. might save my chain a bit

realityisajoke wrote:

Had that hub for about... i dont even know maybe 6-10 months? lol idk. but i love it, never had a single problem with it, have it laced to an Odyssey hazard lite. love it.

I was wondering, tho ive never checked...does it have reversible pawls? cuz im getting new cranks soon and would like to switch my drivetrain to left side. might save my chain a bit

sadly no.. but i also ride my pegs on the same side as my drivetrain and ive had the mds sprocket and ive never broken a chain or anything.. might wanna look into it... it saves me all the time...

realityisajoke wrote:

Had that hub for about... i dont even know maybe 6-10 months? lol idk. but i love it, never had a single problem with it, have it laced to an Odyssey hazard lite. love it.

I was wondering, tho ive never checked...does it have reversible pawls? cuz im getting new cranks soon and would like to switch my drivetrain to left side. might save my chain a bit

Driver is reversible, hub itself is not.

realityisajoke wrote:

Had that hub for about... i dont even know maybe 6-10 months? lol idk. but i love it, never had a single problem with it, have it laced to an Odyssey hazard lite. love it.

I was wondering, tho ive never checked...does it have reversible pawls? cuz im getting new cranks soon and would like to switch my drivetrain to left side. might save my chain a bit

Nope i dont think it has revesible pawls..

DeviantBMX123 wrote:

sadly no.. but i also ride my pegs on the same side as my drivetrain and ive had the mds sprocket and ive never broken a chain or anything.. might wanna look into it... it saves me all the time...

i'd love to if i had the cash, hah. thanks tho ill definitely consider that when bills finally get out my way

sundaybmxRR wrote:

Driver is reversible, hub itself is not.

does that mean that if i somehow changed out the pawls, i could run it oppo? can you even do that?

Primo drivers should be reversible. I know mine is anyways. And that's kinda suprising Deviant. I have a 9t Ti driver and an MDS and I grind on the same side as my drive as well and snap my chain pretty often. My wheel also isn't slammed either, so that's probably why. I'm considering going LHD just because it's so annoying. Lol

-Havok- wrote:

Primo drivers should be reversible. I know mine is anyways. And that's kinda suprising Deviant. I have a 9t Ti driver and an MDS and I grind on the same side as my drive as well and snap my chain pretty often. My wheel also isn't slammed either, so that's probably why. I'm considering going LHD just because it's so annoying. Lol

mine isnt slammed either... hmm it might also be because i have a somewhat heavier duty chain.. (drop buster) but my guard goes over the top of my chain and i never hit my actual chain on anything... though recently i have been pretty clean with my grinds...

jamiespadina wrote:

http://www.gsport.co.uk/custom/wheel_build/wheels.html
there is a guide that should really help you on lacing a wheel

That tutorial's awesome.. i'm probably gonna use it to build a front wheel soon.. i'll probably fuck it up, but gotta start somewhere.. thanks.

DeviantBMX123 wrote:

mine isnt slammed either... hmm it might also be because i have a somewhat heavier duty chain.. (drop buster) but my guard goes over the top of my chain and i never hit my actual chain on anything... though recently i have been pretty clean with my grinds...

Yeah maybe. My dropouts are small as shit so about half the chain is below. Think I'm gonna have to finally get a half link chain to solve my problems. That or just a single half link to make up the difference. I'm not very clean with grinds to say the least. Main reason why I still run a 14mm front hub and don't have female hubs. Lol. Only thing I'm really worried about is my driver cuz it'd be nearly impossible to find another one.

Caelum Persson wrote:

just for future reference @maximusbikes bearings roll for ages when spun when theyre fucked. they shouldnt roll for ages if theyre in good nick

Sorry mate, but this is bollocks

Caelum Persson wrote:

just for future reference @maximusbikes bearings roll for ages when spun when theyre fucked. they shouldnt roll for ages if theyre in good nick

jawn wrote:

Sorry mate, but this is bollocks

absolutely not. bearings shouldnt spin freely and if they do somethings wrong.

Sorry champ, but that's bollocks again. Here's the facts of the matter.

They should not have any PLAY (looseness). If they have any play then they are either worn out, or if new, made poorly. A sealed cartridge bearing by design should spin freely without any play. The play is the indication that something is wrong here, not that it spins freely. If it spins freely and there is no play then you have a bearing that's exactly as it was intended to be.

jawn wrote:

Sorry champ, but that's bollocks again. Here's the facts of the matter.

They should not have any PLAY (looseness). If they have any play then they are either worn out, or if new, made poorly. A sealed cartridge bearing by design should spin freely without any play. The play is the indication that something is wrong here, not that it spins freely. If it spins freely and there is no play then you have a bearing that's exactly as it was intended to be.

This. If that was true then every single hub I've ever used or seen has had bad bearings.

Bearings don't really spin "freely" when they're in you're hand and out of the hub, but when they spin "freely" when mounted then they're working exactly how they're supposed to.