Custom or Complete help please

Coming from the information on the original thread, I think you should settle on either the Fly Neutron complete or your frame of choice and the Stolen Sinner V3 Kit. The Stolen Kit looks good for the price and since you're just beginning, this should be fine for your first few years. Just remember, you HAVE to take good care and maintain your bike to make things last, I learned this the hard way, haha! Keep things running clean and smooth (Lubing the chain and brakes, keeping spokes tight and snug, things like this) in order to get the most of your money.

Regarding your custom bike ideas, the frame choices are all great in my eyes and I think they'll be great for a park-street riding style. Also, do you plan on running brakes and/or a gyro? This will be important if you want to build a custom bike with a brake setup as the kits listed come with none.

Just buy a bike and have fun! Chances are you won't learn any of those tricks within a year anyway, unless you're a park rat and spend all your time nibbling a fly out. It will take you time to get used to any bike. It sounds like you're really serious about starting, and don't mind spending some money, so buy a half decent complete and upgrade parts as you go.

The sweet tooth is the best out of those, but you'll probably want to flip the stem upside down. The total looks OK on paper, but the description is a bit vague in places so some of the parts might be a bit cheap to keep the cost down. The fly doesn't have a full chromo frame.

You're really over thinking this

If you want a custom but don't want to spend a ton buy used parts. I did that for years and still do sometimes. If moneys not an issue and you know you're going to stick to bmx get the best stuff you can from the start. I don't recommend build kits though, they're usually low quality.

readybmxer wrote:

Coming from the information on the original thread, I think you should settle on either the Fly Neutron complete or your frame ...more

readybmxer wrote:

Coming from the information on the original thread, I think you should settle on either the Fly Neutron complete or your frame of choice and the Stolen Sinner V3 Kit. The Stolen Kit looks good for the price and since you're just beginning, this should be fine for your first few years. Just remember, you HAVE to take good care and maintain your bike to make things last, I learned this the hard way, haha! Keep things running clean and smooth (Lubing the chain and brakes, keeping spokes tight and snug, things like this) in order to get the most of your money.

Regarding your custom bike ideas, the frame choices are all great in my eyes and I think they'll be great for a park-street riding style. Also, do you plan on running brakes and/or a gyro? This will be important if you want to build a custom bike with a brake setup as the kits listed come with none.

thanks for your input im now deciding between the colony sweet tooth complete or building a custom if i built a custom could i build one with light good parts and be around the same price as the colony sweet tooth?

grumpySteve wrote:

Just buy a bike and have fun! Chances are you won't learn any of those tricks within a year anyway, unless you're a park rat ...more

grumpySteve wrote:

Just buy a bike and have fun! Chances are you won't learn any of those tricks within a year anyway, unless you're a park rat and spend all your time nibbling a fly out. It will take you time to get used to any bike. It sounds like you're really serious about starting, and don't mind spending some money, so buy a half decent complete and upgrade parts as you go.

The sweet tooth is the best out of those, but you'll probably want to flip the stem upside down. The total looks OK on paper, but the description is a bit vague in places so some of the parts might be a bit cheap to keep the cost down. The fly doesn't have a full chromo frame.

You're really over thinking this

thanks for your input if i were to buy the colony complete could i replace the handlebars and stem with any one i want or only certain ones would work?

Four wrote:

If you want a custom but don't want to spend a ton buy used parts. I did that for years and still do sometimes. If moneys not ...more

Four wrote:

If you want a custom but don't want to spend a ton buy used parts. I did that for years and still do sometimes. If moneys not an issue and you know you're going to stick to bmx get the best stuff you can from the start. I don't recommend build kits though, they're usually low quality.

thanks for your help one more question say i wanted to build custom could i everything for around the same price as the sweet tooth colony complete and around same lbs? i honestly dont know what parts to buy if i were to build a custom

Runescape wrote:

thanks for your help one more question say i wanted to build custom could i everything for around the same price as the sweet ...more

Runescape wrote:

thanks for your help one more question say i wanted to build custom could i everything for around the same price as the sweet tooth colony complete and around same lbs? i honestly dont know what parts to buy if i were to build a custom

No problemo man. A custom would typically be a few hundred more than that. It doesn't seem like a bad bike. I just always rode custom bikes so I'm a little biased.

I think the Kink Solace Pro would be a great choice.

ironmaiden666 wrote:

I think the Kink Solace Pro would be a great choice.

ironmaiden666 wrote:

I think the Kink Solace Pro would be a great choice.

hey thanks for your opinion i checked that bike out it seems to have all the good parts like the colony sweet tooth but im thinking of getting the colony because the standover height is lower than the kink solace which i heard helps in tailwhips 360s and 180s and stuff

Runescape wrote:

hey thanks for your opinion i checked that bike out it seems to have all the good parts like the colony sweet tooth but im ...more

Runescape wrote:

hey thanks for your opinion i checked that bike out it seems to have all the good parts like the colony sweet tooth but im thinking of getting the colony because the standover height is lower than the kink solace which i heard helps in tailwhips 360s and 180s and stuff

Lower standovers will only make things like tailwhips, no-footed cans, or any other trick involving crossing feet over the frame easier just because the toptube is lower so there's more room for your feet to move over. Regarding spins like 180s, 360s, or 540s, a standover doesn't make a difference.

Any bars or stem will fit if you decide to swap them, but you could turn the stem upside-down to get the bars a bit lower and see how it feels

grumpySteve wrote:

Any bars or stem will fit if you decide to swap them, but you could turn the stem upside-down to get the bars a bit lower and ...more

grumpySteve wrote:

Any bars or stem will fit if you decide to swap them, but you could turn the stem upside-down to get the bars a bit lower and see how it feels

oh ok cool by the way whats the reach mean on stems ? and is reach what makes barspins easier?

grumpySteve wrote:

Any bars or stem will fit if you decide to swap them, but you could turn the stem upside-down to get the bars a bit lower and ...more

grumpySteve wrote:

Any bars or stem will fit if you decide to swap them, but you could turn the stem upside-down to get the bars a bit lower and see how it feels

Runescape wrote:

oh ok cool by the way whats the reach mean on stems ? and is reach what makes barspins easier?

Runescape wrote:

oh ok cool by the way whats the reach mean on stems ? and is reach what makes barspins easier?

Over thinking it man , just get a bike and ride , it'll come with time and new parts .

Reach is the length of the stem, measured centre of steerer to centre of bars. People can do all sorts of tricks on all sorts of bikes. The main thing is that you're comfortable on it. Anything that makes a bike easier to do tricks usually makes it ride like arse for everything other than tricks. And it will be harder to land a trick and ride out smoothly if it's too twitchy and responsive. Just get the sweet tooth and ride it!

Brayden_Buckingham wrote:

Over thinking it man , just get a bike and ride , it'll come with time and new parts .

Brayden_Buckingham wrote:

Over thinking it man , just get a bike and ride , it'll come with time and new parts .

This. Worry about bunny hops before planning 540-whips

Runescape wrote:

oh ok cool by the way whats the reach mean on stems ? and is reach what makes barspins easier?

Runescape wrote:

oh ok cool by the way whats the reach mean on stems ? and is reach what makes barspins easier?

I just switched from a 53mm to a 48mm stem. Barspins are a little faster and less likely to hit your knee on the shorter stem.

Well, if your just getting into BMX, try looking for a cheaper bike just to get started to get a feel for if you like BMX or not. Than eventually work your way up to a better complete or a custom. But customs can get pretty pricey. I have a 2015 United Martinez Expert complete and it's been great to me. Hope this helped!

If you get into Bmx and think your going to learn tailwhips early on your going to have a bad time

eskimojay wrote:

If you get into Bmx and think your going to learn tailwhips early on your going to have a bad time

eskimojay wrote:

If you get into Bmx and think your going to learn tailwhips early on your going to have a bad time

I know a couple dudes who had em inside of 1.5 years of riding. Depends on how committed you are.

I however took 6 years to get one. Had em for a bit and lost em when my back went out.