What is it with you and animal butts Dave? Hahahahaha! Sadly my ears are so big I no longer get "cat butt" when I take my plugs out my ears dangle in the breeze. It's not a pretty sight. I never leave the house without plugs in. I agree that most DK completes are nothing special, but at least the Kvant and Aura have full chromoly frames. Why is it that DK can sell full chromoly bikes for $400 but Sunday can't put one out for less than $700? People gotta read the fine print, chromoly front triangle and full chromoly are not the same. One sad thing I've noticed is that bike companies try to distract attention away from how bad a frame is by focusing on a parts package. I don't care if it comes with Odyssey twisted pc pedals standard. I'm not buying the bike because I like the pedals, I buy a bike because I like the way the frame feels. I personally feel that bike companies aren't being very honest about their products. Like Cult for example. I like Cult and they havean awesome team, but look at the bad boy frame for example. Cult doesn't actually make their own frames, someone else does. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Bad Boy frame is actually made by FBM. So what's the difference between an FBM frame and the Bad Boy frame? Why not just buy a raw FBM frame for a hundred dollars less. You're paying for the sticker at that point and not the frame. Now I don't like to talk trash about BMX, I do love BMX dearly. But I'm kinda saddened by how the industry has turned into a novelty. If I didn't know better I would say that the industry is currently owned by Hottopic and Urban Outfitters! It's like their trying to sell an image, a lifestyle, that to me just seems very contrived. I admit that I am getting old (33) but I don't remember BMX being like this. It's just a bunch of whiny scene kids. Now don't get me wrong, I love skinny jeans, they're all I wear, and I do love having a light bike, but sometimes it seems like it's more of a fashion show than going out and riding. Looking good is nice, having a pretty bike is nice too, but throwing down some pegs and getting banged up and scabby is even better.