Design the worlds greatest all around frame!!

Geometry:
-20.375", 20.5", 20.7", 20.937", and 21.1" Top tube sizes
-13.6" slammed rear end (13.2" slammed on 20.375")
-74.5 degree headtube angle (75 on 20.375")
-11.6" bottom bracket height
-71.5 degree seattube angle
-8.75" seattube height (8" on 20.375")

Tubing:
-5" tall headtube with smooth design
-Mid bottom bracket shell, with a shape similar to the United Beacon's but minimized further
-1 3/8" OD top tube, double butted, non-tapered
-1 3/8" OD downtube, tapered at the bottom bracket, external gusset at headtube, butted thicker at bottom bracket
-Seattube is externally double butted at ends
-19mm OD .049" wall chainstays, non-tapered, non-butted
-19mm OD .035" wall seatstays, tapered to 17mm at dropouts, non-butted
-19mm curved seatstay bridge, as far down as possible for 2.2" tires

Extras:
-Wishbone chainstays
-Top tube extends past the seattube, and the seatstays are welded slightly above the top tube, creating something of an integrated seatstay/seattube gusset
-6mm thick dropouts that fit entirely flush with a 34mm peg, and the axle slot is lower than normal so the peg sits well below the chainstays
-Clearance for 2.2" tires at most
-Integrated seat clamp
-Welded stay caps
-Rust proof coating inside and out
-Post weld machining on headtube and bottom bracket shells
-Post weld heat treated and shot peened
-Colors are gloss orange, trans blue, clear raw, and matte black
-Made in Murica
-SuperTherm top and downtubes

Probably forgetting somethings.

I'll be back to post in this for sure

It's all different for different people........ There's something called preference. If a person likes a particular geometry on a frame they would be able to ride anything since they're comfortable with it..........

Ovalized downtube, invest tubing everywhere. Grind friendly dropouts and bb. 13.25 chainstay, 8.25 seat tube, beer can head tube ( looks like an actual beer can ) removable mounts, 75 head tube, 11.6 bb. Simple, sweet, and fbm should make it.

brianoob wrote:

It's all different for different people........ There's something called preference. If a person likes a particular geometry on a frame they would be able to ride anything since they're comfortable with it..........

Okay, then design the kind of frame YOU would be feel the best on doing anything.

Most of those frames would be ok on park/street but would suck as dedicated trails or flat frames

Gump wrote:

Most of those frames would be ok on park/street but would suck as dedicated trails or flat frames

nahh i dont think so. people ride trails with that type of geo and mathias dandois actually rides a Haro SD frame that has similar design geo wise. It could definitely work in my eyes.

park/trail frame

21.5" TT
74.5* HA
70* SA
14" CS
11.5" BB
Triangle SS, curved yoke, tapered thick wall CS with twisted braces and transitioned stay caps
Butted,fluted seatube, subrosa style midi BB. Smooth taper integrated HT
Short 6mm dropouts that cover 9t driver
Rectangle tube gusset at lower steer tube/downtube
Lo-pro cable stop 4.5" from headtube center, rear guide 3" from seatube center
Raw weld finish w polished dropout, stay cap, bb and headtube edges, then translucent paint

21 tt
wave tt and downtube
chain tensioners
no mounts
beefy
75hy
13.5 cs
built in pivitol seat

The S&M ATF has been around for many many years.

I'm going to be rocking a Deco frame for a while now but if money were no object this would be the ultimate "Streetland" Frame

75 Degree Head Tube Angle
20" Top Tube Length
72 Degree Seat Tube Angle
7.5" Stand Over Height
11.875" Bottom Bracket Height
12.75" to 13.25" Chain Stay Length
125mm Invest Cast, Offset Butted Integrated Head Tube
Hydroformed Top & Down Tube Gussets
1.1/4" O.D Butted Top Tube
1.3/8" O.D Waved Down Tube
Fully Brakeless
Invest Cast Integrated Seat Clamp with Replaceable Nut & Bolt
Internally Butted Seat Tube
Invest Cast Hour Glass Shaped (For Better Grinds!) Mid Bottom Bracket
Overlapped Seat Stay Junction
3/4" O.D x .035" Gauge Tapered to 5/8" O.D Seat Stays
5/8" O.D Invest Cast Curved Seat & Chain Stay Bridges
D Shaped "Dent Resistant" Chain Stays x .049" Gauge
8mm Invest Cast Hollow 14mm Drop Outs
Integrated Chain Tensioners Through the Drop Out
Fully Heat Treated Seamless Sanko Tubing
Gloss Raw Clear Coat (With all the Pretty Weld Marks!)

The glow paint confuses me...how would light get inside to charge the paint?

dave lawrence wrote:

The glow paint confuses me...how would light get inside to charge the paint?

Magic. What else?

First off the frame would have a set chain stay length to fit specific gear ratios so every frame sold would be slammed no wheel off center bullshit and the brake mounts would actually have tire clearance unlike frames today that are made so retarded that if you run a slammed wheel you can't have brakes cough cough s&m randy brown retard frame

The frame would have straight guage tubing
Headtube: 0.35
Toptube: 0.49
Downtube: 0.59
Seattube: 0.39
Seatstay: 0.49
Chainstay:0.75
B.B shell: 0.59
C shaped seat stay bridge 0.49
wishbone chain stay sunday style 0.75
7mm hollow drop outs with choice of intergraded chain tensioners
Top and bottom gussets Sunday style
investment cast seat clamp
engraved marijuana leaf headtube badge and B.B
post welded throughout

Geometry
Headtube angle 75
Seattube angle 70
9 stand over height
Special angled chain stay so it's less likely to hit anything during grinds

colors
ion purple
flat black
marry jane green
raw (no paint or clear code)

OneEyeIlluminatiGuy wrote:

First off the frame would have a set chain stay length to fit specific gear ratios so every frame sold would be slammed no wheel off center bullshit and the brake mounts would actually have tire clearance unlike frames today that are made so retarded that if you run a slammed wheel you can't have brakes cough cough s&m randy brown retard frame

The frame would have straight guage tubing
Headtube: 0.35
Toptube: 0.49
Downtube: 0.59
Seattube: 0.39
Seatstay: 0.49
Chainstay:0.75
B.B shell: 0.59
C shaped seat stay bridge 0.49
wishbone chain stay sunday style 0.75
7mm hollow drop outs with choice of intergraded chain tensioners
Top and bottom gussets Sunday style
investment cast seat clamp
engraved marijuana leaf headtube badge and B.B
post welded throughout

Geometry
Headtube angle 75
Seattube angle 70
9 stand over height
Special angled chain stay so it's less likely to hit anything during grinds

colors
ion purple
flat black
marry jane green
raw (no paint or clear code)

What a garbage frame.......your an idiot

OneEyeIlluminatiGuy wrote:

First off the frame would have a set chain stay length to fit specific gear ratios so every frame sold would be slammed no wheel off center bullshit and the brake mounts would actually have tire clearance unlike frames today that are made so retarded that if you run a slammed wheel you can't have brakes cough cough s&m randy brown retard frame

The frame would have straight guage tubing
Headtube: 0.35
Toptube: 0.49
Downtube: 0.59
Seattube: 0.39
Seatstay: 0.49
Chainstay:0.75
B.B shell: 0.59
C shaped seat stay bridge 0.49
wishbone chain stay sunday style 0.75
7mm hollow drop outs with choice of intergraded chain tensioners
Top and bottom gussets Sunday style
investment cast seat clamp
engraved marijuana leaf headtube badge and B.B
post welded throughout

Geometry
Headtube angle 75
Seattube angle 70
9 stand over height
Special angled chain stay so it's less likely to hit anything during grinds

colors
ion purple
flat black
marry jane green
raw (no paint or clear code)

Uhhh, don't you think 3/4" thick down tubes is a little excessive?

dave lawrence wrote:

The glow paint confuses me...how would light get inside to charge the paint?

Fondue wrote:

Magic. What else?

Better yet, iridium. That way you will glow too after a while, haha

Double toptube
19 19.5 20 20.5
13.5ish rear
Chrome

dave lawrence wrote:

The glow paint confuses me...how would light get inside to charge the paint?

Fondue wrote:

Magic. What else?

Chuck8273 wrote:

Better yet, iridium. That way you will glow too after a while, haha

hell yes. haha itd have cutouts like an eastern frame kinda and shit would glow out of it! hahaha

OneEyeIlluminatiGuy wrote:

First off the frame would have a set chain stay length to fit specific gear ratios so every frame sold would be slammed no wheel off center bullshit and the brake mounts would actually have tire clearance unlike frames today that are made so retarded that if you run a slammed wheel you can't have brakes cough cough s&m randy brown retard frame

The frame would have straight guage tubing
Headtube: 0.35
Toptube: 0.49
Downtube: 0.59
Seattube: 0.39
Seatstay: 0.49
Chainstay:0.75
B.B shell: 0.59
C shaped seat stay bridge 0.49
wishbone chain stay sunday style 0.75
7mm hollow drop outs with choice of intergraded chain tensioners
Top and bottom gussets Sunday style
investment cast seat clamp
engraved marijuana leaf headtube badge and B.B
post welded throughout

Geometry
Headtube angle 75
Seattube angle 70
9 stand over height
Special angled chain stay so it's less likely to hit anything during grinds

colors
ion purple
flat black
marry jane green
raw (no paint or clear code)

That frame would have to have narrow ass tubing to weigh anywhere near 5 lbs. haha

i was't finished damn it stupid ass retard phone and of course you fags turn into trolls once i post something

also dont call me a weight whore ever again you little faggots

OneEyeIlluminatiGuy wrote:

First off the frame would have a set chain stay length to fit specific gear ratios so every frame sold would be slammed no wheel off center bullshit and the brake mounts would actually have tire clearance unlike frames today that are made so retarded that if you run a slammed wheel you can't have brakes cough cough s&m randy brown retard frame

The frame would have straight guage tubing
Headtube: 0.35
Toptube: 0.49
Downtube: 0.59
Seattube: 0.39
Seatstay: 0.49
Chainstay:0.75
B.B shell: 0.59
C shaped seat stay bridge 0.49
wishbone chain stay sunday style 0.75
7mm hollow drop outs with choice of intergraded chain tensioners
Top and bottom gussets Sunday style
investment cast seat clamp
engraved marijuana leaf headtube badge and B.B
post welded throughout

Geometry
Headtube angle 75
Seattube angle 70
9 stand over height
Special angled chain stay so it's less likely to hit anything during grinds

colors
ion purple
flat black
marry jane green
raw (no paint or clear code)

eskimojay wrote:

What a garbage frame.......your an idiot

your butt hurt that i came up with something better than you, go cock gaze somewhere else testicle taster

OneEyeIlluminatiGuy wrote:

First off the frame would have a set chain stay length to fit specific gear ratios so every frame sold would be slammed no wheel off center bullshit and the brake mounts would actually have tire clearance unlike frames today that are made so retarded that if you run a slammed wheel you can't have brakes cough cough s&m randy brown retard frame

The frame would have straight guage tubing
Headtube: 0.35
Toptube: 0.49
Downtube: 0.59
Seattube: 0.39
Seatstay: 0.49
Chainstay:0.75
B.B shell: 0.59
C shaped seat stay bridge 0.49
wishbone chain stay sunday style 0.75
7mm hollow drop outs with choice of intergraded chain tensioners
Top and bottom gussets Sunday style
investment cast seat clamp
engraved marijuana leaf headtube badge and B.B
post welded throughout

Geometry
Headtube angle 75
Seattube angle 70
9 stand over height
Special angled chain stay so it's less likely to hit anything during grinds

colors
ion purple
flat black
marry jane green
raw (no paint or clear code)

Xxohioanxx wrote:

Uhhh, don't you think 3/4" thick down tubes is a little excessive?

typo

OneEyeIlluminatiGuy wrote:

i was't finished damn it stupid ass retard phone and of course you fags turn into trolls once i post something

also dont call me a weight whore ever again you little faggots

And the weight whore goes and gets his panties in a bunch

eskimojay wrote:

And the weight whore goes and gets his panties in a bunch

Sand in her Vagina

OneEyeIlluminatiGuy wrote:

First off the frame would have a set chain stay length to fit specific gear ratios so every frame sold would be slammed no wheel off center bullshit and the brake mounts would actually have tire clearance unlike frames today that are made so retarded that if you run a slammed wheel you can't have brakes cough cough s&m randy brown retard frame

The frame would have straight guage tubing
Headtube: 0.35
Toptube: 0.49
Downtube: 0.59
Seattube: 0.39
Seatstay: 0.49
Chainstay:0.75
B.B shell: 0.59
C shaped seat stay bridge 0.49
wishbone chain stay sunday style 0.75
7mm hollow drop outs with choice of intergraded chain tensioners
Top and bottom gussets Sunday style
investment cast seat clamp
engraved marijuana leaf headtube badge and B.B
post welded throughout

Geometry
Headtube angle 75
Seattube angle 70
9 stand over height
Special angled chain stay so it's less likely to hit anything during grinds

colors
ion purple
flat black
marry jane green
raw (no paint or clear code)

eskimojay wrote:

What a garbage frame.......your an idiot

OneEyeIlluminatiGuy wrote:

your butt hurt that i came up with something better than you, go cock gaze somewhere else testicle taster

Jelous of your idea for a frame i think not, yours is just an idea, i actually have a frame that i designed and rode and it works great

OneEyeIlluminatiGuy wrote:

First off the frame would have a set chain stay length to fit specific gear ratios so every frame sold would be slammed no wheel off center bullshit and the brake mounts would actually have tire clearance unlike frames today that are made so retarded that if you run a slammed wheel you can't have brakes cough cough s&m randy brown retard frame

The frame would have straight guage tubing
Headtube: 0.35
Toptube: 0.49
Downtube: 0.59
Seattube: 0.39
Seatstay: 0.49
Chainstay:0.75
B.B shell: 0.59
C shaped seat stay bridge 0.49
wishbone chain stay sunday style 0.75
7mm hollow drop outs with choice of intergraded chain tensioners
Top and bottom gussets Sunday style
investment cast seat clamp
engraved marijuana leaf headtube badge and B.B
post welded throughout

Geometry
Headtube angle 75
Seattube angle 70
9 stand over height
Special angled chain stay so it's less likely to hit anything during grinds

colors
ion purple
flat black
marry jane green
raw (no paint or clear code)

eskimojay wrote:

What a garbage frame.......your an idiot

OneEyeIlluminatiGuy wrote:

your butt hurt that i came up with something better than you, go cock gaze somewhere else testicle taster

Jelous of your idea for a frame i think not, yours is just an idea, i actually have a frame that i designed and rode and it works great

eskimojay wrote:

What a garbage frame.......your an idiot

OneEyeIlluminatiGuy wrote:

your butt hurt that i came up with something better than you, go cock gaze somewhere else testicle taster

eskimojay wrote:

Jelous of your idea for a frame i think not, yours is just an idea, i actually have a frame that i designed and rode and it works great

cool story brah

pics or it never happen