Do I Need a Gyro (Detangler) For My Bike?

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3/16/2012 9:03 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/16/2012 9:05 PM

I will be ordering this bike in my local bike shop at the end of this month.
http://www.vitalbmx.com/product/guide/Bikes,6/Eastern-Bikes/Wolfdog,3672

According to the details and specs of this bike, Do I need to buy a Gyro for this bike? I'll be wanting to do tailwhips and barspins and such, but I don't know if it doesn't need it or can do fine without it, I originally thought that "Integrated Headset" meant it didn't need a Gyro but it appears i'm wrong. It says it has holes for Gyro tabs... So leads me to think as of now, that it doesn't have one and if I barspin or tailwhip, i'll hurt the cables....

Thanks for the replies!

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3/16/2012 9:09 PM

Can you tail whip/ bar spin? If not dont bother, Anyways, the integrated headset is just bearings that let the forks, and bars spin, gyro basically allows for cables to not be tangled around the bars/ stem, its not really needed if you dont mind spinning your bars, I run one because im going to run dual cables, and lodon mod all the way to the brake for more braking power.

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3/16/2012 9:10 PM

You dont need it. Look up Aaron Ross, he does a lot of barspin and tailwhips and runs a straight cable. But if you plan a doing a bunch of tailwhips barsins and footjam tailwhips in one line a lot of times you might be better off with a gyro.

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3/16/2012 9:18 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/16/2012 9:18 PM

Roqfan wrote:

You dont need it. Look up Aaron Ross, he does a lot of barspin and tailwhips and runs a straight cable. But if you plan a doing a bunch of tailwhips barsins and footjam tailwhips in one line a lot of times you might be better off with a gyro.

Right, so I can do tailwhips but just not too many during a run.

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3/16/2012 9:19 PM

Roqfan wrote:

You dont need it. Look up Aaron Ross, he does a lot of barspin and tailwhips and runs a straight cable. But if you plan a doing a bunch of tailwhips barsins and footjam tailwhips in one line a lot of times you might be better off with a gyro.

DEQBMX wrote:

Right, so I can do tailwhips but just not too many during a run.

Dont worry about a gyro then.

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3/16/2012 9:20 PM

just run your cable long or flip it then you can do like 3 of either in a run

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3/16/2012 9:20 PM

Penman166 wrote:

Can you tail whip/ bar spin? If not dont bother, Anyways, the integrated headset is just bearings that let the forks, and bars spin, gyro basically allows for cables to not be tangled around the bars/ stem, its not really needed if you dont mind spinning your bars, I run one because im going to run dual cables, and lodon mod all the way to the brake for more braking power.

Right. A buddy of mine told me to save me some work, to just remove the brakes completely. I'll just buy a brakeless bike later on, when i'm at a level where I make few mistakes.

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3/16/2012 9:21 PM

Penman166 wrote:

Can you tail whip/ bar spin? If not dont bother, Anyways, the integrated headset is just bearings that let the forks, and bars spin, gyro basically allows for cables to not be tangled around the bars/ stem, its not really needed if you dont mind spinning your bars, I run one because im going to run dual cables, and lodon mod all the way to the brake for more braking power.

DEQBMX wrote:

Right. A buddy of mine told me to save me some work, to just remove the brakes completely. I'll just buy a brakeless bike later on, when i'm at a level where I make few mistakes.

Ok thats retarted, just remove the brakes off the mounts and bars? Why would you buy a brakeless bike? Theres no such thing, its illegal to sell a bike without brakes.

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3/16/2012 9:26 PM

Penman166 wrote:

Can you tail whip/ bar spin? If not dont bother, Anyways, the integrated headset is just bearings that let the forks, and bars spin, gyro basically allows for cables to not be tangled around the bars/ stem, its not really needed if you dont mind spinning your bars, I run one because im going to run dual cables, and lodon mod all the way to the brake for more braking power.

DEQBMX wrote:

Right. A buddy of mine told me to save me some work, to just remove the brakes completely. I'll just buy a brakeless bike later on, when i'm at a level where I make few mistakes.

Penman166 wrote:

Ok thats retarted, just remove the brakes off the mounts and bars? Why would you buy a brakeless bike? Theres no such thing, its illegal to sell a bike without brakes.

When I bought my first BMX, I saw a Haro "000" Brakeless bike in the catalog, and a handful of Premium Bikes had no brakes.

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3/16/2012 9:29 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/16/2012 9:29 PM

Adam_Waddell wrote:

just run your cable long or flip it then you can do like 3 of either in a run

Okay. I'll do that. I'll save up for a Gyro just in-case. The bike's description says it has holes for a Gyro Tab. I'm guessing I need to buy the tabs themeselves, the actual gyro, and the cables...

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3/16/2012 9:31 PM

So the bike says quote: "Internal headset, mid BB and holes for gyro tabs."

According to this, If I were to install a Gyro-Braking system, i'd need to buy the tabs themeselves, the gyro, and the cables right?

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3/16/2012 9:41 PM

DEQBMX wrote:

So the bike says quote: "Internal headset, mid BB and holes for gyro tabs."

According to this, If I were to install a Gyro-Braking system, i'd need to buy the tabs themeselves, the gyro, and the cables right?

yep, get the gyro cables, tabs and the gyro itself. if you want a cheap one, get the odyssey g3 kit. its decent quality and works pretty good. its only like $20 and comes with everything.

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3/16/2012 9:42 PM

Yes you would. But you dont need to buy them, it's an option.

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3/16/2012 9:42 PM

i would replace the oem tires with hp Kevlar tires

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3/16/2012 9:44 PM

how about you just take the brakes off.

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3/16/2012 9:55 PM

DEQBMX wrote:

So the bike says quote: "Internal headset, mid BB and holes for gyro tabs."

According to this, If I were to install a Gyro-Braking system, i'd need to buy the tabs themeselves, the gyro, and the cables right?

maxbakerman wrote:

yep, get the gyro cables, tabs and the gyro itself. if you want a cheap one, get the odyssey g3 kit. its decent quality and works pretty good. its only like $20 and comes with everything.

Got it. Thanks for the info!

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3/17/2012 6:44 AM

No, you will be fine.

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3/17/2012 6:45 AM
Edited Date/Time: 3/17/2012 6:47 AM

DEQBMX wrote:

Right. A buddy of mine told me to save me some work, to just remove the brakes completely. I'll just buy a brakeless bike later on, when i'm at a level where I make few mistakes.

Penman166 wrote:

Ok thats retarted, just remove the brakes off the mounts and bars? Why would you buy a brakeless bike? Theres no such thing, its illegal to sell a bike without brakes.

DEQBMX wrote:

When I bought my first BMX, I saw a Haro "000" Brakeless bike in the catalog, and a handful of Premium Bikes had no brakes.

They legally have to come with brakes from the shop or wherever you get them from. It is a Federal law. I work at a Haro/Premium dealer, and we have a few of those bikes, they have a cheap caliper brake on them.

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3/17/2012 9:04 AM
Edited Date/Time: 3/17/2012 9:11 AM

Penman166 wrote:

Ok thats retarted, just remove the brakes off the mounts and bars? Why would you buy a brakeless bike? Theres no such thing, its illegal to sell a bike without brakes.

DEQBMX wrote:

When I bought my first BMX, I saw a Haro "000" Brakeless bike in the catalog, and a handful of Premium Bikes had no brakes.

dave lawrence wrote:

They legally have to come with brakes from the shop or wherever you get them from. It is a Federal law. I work at a Haro/Premium dealer, and we have a few of those bikes, they have a cheap caliper brake on them.

Oh I get it, thanks haha. Thought they just came with no brakes. They did say they it had brakes on them in the showroom, but it's specifically made for brakeless (The Haro).

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