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2/12/2016 2:25 PM

So, BMX is not usually too concerned (maybe some people are?), but the whole idea of a new president actually WOULD change things.

If you look at the presidential candidates (that have a real shot), each one of them would present changes to the economy (ignoring what they will ACTUALLY get done vs. what they will get done). Just basing these off of what they say they want to do. Now, I should start by saying, I'm for Bernie Sanders and I'll gladly explain why is you need to know, but the point of this thread is how the Presidential election would affect BMX as a whole.

The candidates that people are REALLY reacting to, are as follows, Donald Trump (ew), Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, and for some reason Jeb Bush and Ben Carson.

So what do we have? A few "Republicans" and a couple of (rather more promising) "Democrats".
Why the quotes? Well, the ideas Trump has sent forth have been either fascist (or just plain nuts), so realistically he isn't really a Republican other than the fact he is a rich "white" guy probably covering his own ass. And Bernie is a declared socialist. Hillary, however actually does fit perfectly into the Democrat category.

As BMX for a lot of us on here is a lifestyle (if you would call it that, I don't care what you call it, most of us on here ride a lot) we actually should consider our riding and how the candidate may affect our thing we love to do.

So let's break it down.

Donald Trump- Easily the most.. let's say covered candidate. "Why is he leading the polls if he is so dumb and dangerously fascist?" is a question people ask me, and a lot of others all the time ask this question. Here's why; It's because he is so easy to poke fun at. Look at the guy for Christ's sake! He is a fucking cartoon that Disney threw out. People eat that up. And there are literally so many uneducated and racist morons who will see that he is the main one being covered and think "oh yeah, that guy was the 'yer fired' guy! He was on tv and is rich so he must be right! I'm also racist and dumb too so he is just saying what i'm not supposed to say and get yelled at by my smart friends for saying!"

His coverage is a problem, if you ask me. He knows what he is doing, though. By saying outrageous stuff, he gets voters. But what does this mean for BMX? Not much is actually presented that he REALLY has any plan at all for America other than "MEXICANS, SYRIANS, AND ANYONE WHO ISN'T MY COLOR CAN'T BE HERE". But he does continuously say he will "take care of everyone". And when questioned he answers with "good business". But, aside from being a big asshole that you must need to be to succeed in either, there really isn't THAT much in common. Sure, you have meetings, etc., but foreign relations will go down the toilet with him. All my German friends HATED Bush and disliked America under him. But with Obama, they don't dislike it. "So, yeah, cool Max, but what does any of this mean?"

Donald (the Duck) Trump, would be dangerous for BMX. By crippling international relations and further harming the middle class, BMX would lose money, parent's wouldn't afford the new bike for the kid, the kid doesn't ride, simple.

Now let's talk about Hillary Clinton. What does she want? Well the way I see it, it is good for women i suppose, but for the country as a whole? Not really. She basically would pick up where Obama is leaving off. As far as any major changes, we may have a more liberal perspective with some other issues, but that's besides the point. She does have some serious experience in the white house and in politics in general. Yeah, that's all good stuff, but what will this do? What IS Hillary? A puppet. She has accepted a lot of money from outside donors. Big names like Koch Brothers and huge companies that really have a huge pull on American lifestyles. Is that bad? Yes. If you want some serious economical change and real change to the middle class, it's no good.

So for BMX, Hillary wouldn't really change much. But she would also be a bit of a pain with foreign relations, a lot of more under developed countries think of women completely differently, so I'm not sure exactly what that would do. Might be fine, but it is worth considering.

Now I'll keep this short, Jeb and Ben are fucking jokes. Jeb is a fucking twat, he has nothing going for him other than "My Daddy and my brother were it! MY TURN!" which is retarded and he can fuck himself. Ben Carson is a weird man. I don't think he should be anywhere near the white house. He has no experience and no useful input.

Both of these candidates are no good for BMX, they're completely wanting to make the top 1% strong and that's not BMX. That's not helpful. Most kids that ride are NOT in that top percentage, they're middle class.

Now, my favorite candidate, Bernie Sanders. Needless to say he is the best choice. He is a declared socialist. And that immediately perks people's ears up and then they go on a rant as to why they hate that. But do you KNOW what socialism is? It's where your tax money goes. Don't cry, you get it all back. (I'll be getting my income tax return pretty soon, which i'm stoked on as this is my most lucrative year ever with all my different jobs.) Our roads, our national parks, our government systems, (medicare, medicaid, and the healthcare reform act "Obamacare" are all socialistic things, and the most obvious one, Social Security) Are WONDERFUL things. Think about what they do! Saves the old people, the poor from being dead on the street, and the senior citizens get the other one. Those are super necessary. Obamacare is actually trying to close the gap, but it's really not working too well because of the greedy doctors feeding on the poor.

Why does this scare people? Capitalism. They still believe the "American Dream" which is if you work hard, you'll make it big and everything will be great in your giant house and SUV. But that's NOT how things work. It's a scam. Sadly. I wish I could believe in it. But most people can't do that. What can we do? Go further into some socialistic ways to balance it out.

We all pay taxes. Let's break down what tax percentages we are paying, i'm gonna near them to the nearest percentage so it's a little cleaner as it does adjust from time to time.

The Rich pay 15%-17% of their yearly earnings
The middle class pay 18%-19%
and the poor pay 12%

Sound fair? NO. Sure the rich pay relatively the same percentage, but they have more money, so yeah, more money they are paid, but it's still the same slice of pie to them. Sort of. While the Middle class is paying a higher percentage, a slice of pie out of a smaller pie in general. and the poor pay a little less, which is more fair than not.

So doesn't it seem fair that those with more could give a bigger percentage? They'll still have plenty of money, and it'd give people in the middle class some room to breathe for once.

Bernie would change that. And i'm willing to bet that you would enjoy having some room to breathe.. because I bet not too many rich people are on here.

He would have a tax raise on the rich. Which is needed. It'd balance things out. And he has plans to fiux infrastructure (our roads, bridges, etc.) He wants to legalize marijuana, he wants to allow students to go to colleges (not the private ones) for a SMALL fee. And he will socialize health care. He is also the only candidate to ever have the same civil rights idealism as Martin Luther King Jr. Ever. You can look all of these things up, and of course, i'm going off of all the things I know so far, there may be more. But that alone is why he is great for BMX.

Bernie would HELP BMX. When we fall, break our legs, etc and need the doctors, we can afford it. When we need our children to go to college, we won't go broke paying for it. And neither will they. He is for the overall equality of citizens in america. He has political experience as he is a Senator and from what I understand he is damn good at it. He is influential. He would put America where it should be.

Bernie is BMX. He is a little old, in his 70s. But Trump will be 70 too, he just has that nasty skin color and fucked up hair. Bernie isn't like that. He is not "too old". He will raise Minimum wage to 15$ (successfully changing all the other wages as well). Why? it's because employers and CEOs actually pay us way less then they ought to be. Our wages are a drop in their bucket while they swim in money. It's ridiculous. It'd simply balance things out. It's all very complicated though, so i'm not gonna try to explain it. Use the internet to read complicated math. Or let Bernie explain it.

Why am I saying this? Well, this is my first (presidential) election I can vote in. So I'm concerned with it. And this is a neat election. A big turn for America too! There are a lot more privately funded candidates. Bernie hasn't accepted money from anyone other than his supporting people. No big name companies. And Trump is funding himself.

So this is pretty cool to me, and i'm really praying that America makes Bernie the dude for us all. That's my opinion, that's the dude that has my vote. My support. I've done my research, and he makes sense. Vote for who you want, but know what you're getting into before. Plus it's like 10 degrees and snowing outside so I'm not able to ride. Please take the time to read, and feel free to give input. I know it's long. I know it's confusing. But please, understand, It is important.

Thank you.

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2/12/2016 2:40 PM

I can't believe i read all of that haha. I personally have some different opinions but i don't really care to write them out, i don't feel like arguing with anyone right now and politics is stupid anyways. As long as we don't get Hilary i don't really care haha.

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2/12/2016 2:43 PM

blaaaaaaaaa wrote:

I can't believe i read all of that haha. I personally have some different opinions but i don't really care to write them out, i don't feel like arguing with anyone right now and politics is stupid anyways. As long as we don't get Hilary i don't really care haha.

Well i appreciate you read it.

I just don't feel Hillary is what we need right now as well.

I actually would prefer an argument to be honest. I agree politics can be "muddy" at times, but i've put the information forth and am very interested in what people actually think about it.

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2/12/2016 3:27 PM

rand paul?

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2/12/2016 3:41 PM

I'm a Bernie supporter... yep....

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2/12/2016 4:10 PM

He's not going to be able to do anything he wants to do. Obama couldn't. Trump wouldn't be able to. Hillary wouldn't be able to. Cruz wouldn't be able to.

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2/12/2016 4:21 PM
Edited Date/Time: 2/12/2016 4:21 PM

Anyone hear about North Korea successfully getting an interballistic missile into space with a satellite ? That's pretty fucked up seeings as they've been blowing up test nukes in the ground latley , those fuckers wanna nuke Murica ..... It's not like you guys can nuke them with a pre emptive strike either , Russia would nuke the hell out of you guys and we'd all die in a nuclear halocaust , trump might be the least of your worries it's that damn little fat North Korean dictator you should be worried about , what you guys need is an assassination plan

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2/12/2016 4:30 PM
Edited Date/Time: 2/12/2016 4:38 PM

The thing you gotta realize in politics is 90 % of what they tell you is bullshit and they might give you 10% of what you want

This Bernie sanders guy sounds allot like Justin Trudeau and everyone thought he was going to kick ass and make Canada more awsome but now he's in and he's fucking up our country more then conservatives would have , our conservatives wanted to spend 12 billion for the planned term wich is not a bad balance of budget , the liberals in want to spend something like 170 billion wich is going to fuck us Canadians hard down the road with the value of our dollar , the more money in circulation the less your dollar is worth , our oil industry is getting fucked these days(thanks to Saudi Arabia) and that used to be our strong point a barrel of oil here is now worth the same as a case of beer ,that's fucking insane( the liberals themselves aren't to keen on the oil industry so I don't see them helping that out much) , unemployment has jumped something like 30 % and they're bringing in refugees and paying them 1100 bucks a month to be here for nothing , while Canadians are getting laid off and can't find work , it's good to try to help refugees , but you gotta draw a line somewhere on fucking your own country's citizens

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2/12/2016 5:01 PM

Politics fights on details to create an illusion of choice and keep the global system the same...

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2/12/2016 5:10 PM

Gary Johnson.

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2/12/2016 5:54 PM

Presidents dpnt represent the country. They represent their vision of how they think the country should be. I voice my opinion by not voting. Not voting doesnt express silence, it screams " you dont represent me and I don't support you"

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2/12/2016 11:43 PM

thought i'd like to share. lol

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2/13/2016 12:08 AM

420bongblazer wrote:

thought i'd like to share. lol

If only that were the truth

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2/13/2016 12:36 AM

tomdon wrote:

Presidents dpnt represent the country. They represent their vision of how they think the country should be. I voice my opinion by not voting. Not voting doesnt express silence, it screams " you dont represent me and I don't support you"

So much this !

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2/13/2016 1:32 AM

Politics are a fucking joke and the Government is too . All useless , they fuck over the little people . One big scam "we the people" really means "the ones with money"

Bernie seems cool though .

The world will be fucked all the time either way , Obama was the best there is for a long time , cleaning up after Bushes shit .

Honestly people only vote based on where they work at and how it'll make their life better , not the countries . That's why things will never be the same .

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2/13/2016 10:26 AM

Honestly what we need in the US is to LIMIT TERMS FOR THE SENATE, not allow them to add raises for themselves (which they can do), not allow them to collect pensions after 2 years serving (maybe bump it to after 2-4 terms?), they can delay to hold special sessions where they get paid INSANELY WELL, and HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE DECISIONS MADE. Also make them LEGALLY REQUIRED to disclose all funds they receive from any lobbyists etc, and if it is found that they were bought/not reporting it, they would instantly be removed from the senate and not allowed into any form of politics ever again.

They actually make the laws and rules. President can override them, yes, but that isn't too common.

There are people who have been in office for 40+ years, and still are going based on the ideals and beliefs the US had in the 50s/60s/70s.

We need people who understand what is ACTUALLY happening here.

Honestly, Trump is good at business, but he has also gone completely bankrupt like 4 times, and he honestly is starting his political career with similar aspects and beliefs as folks who were BIG into genocide. Just saying.


Bikes are fun though.

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2/13/2016 11:40 AM

dave lawrence wrote:

Honestly what we need in the US is to LIMIT TERMS FOR THE SENATE, not allow them to add raises for themselves (which they can do), not allow them to collect pensions after 2 years serving (maybe bump it to after 2-4 terms?), they can delay to hold special sessions where they get paid INSANELY WELL, and HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE DECISIONS MADE. Also make them LEGALLY REQUIRED to disclose all funds they receive from any lobbyists etc, and if it is found that they were bought/not reporting it, they would instantly be removed from the senate and not allowed into any form of politics ever again.

They actually make the laws and rules. President can override them, yes, but that isn't too common.

There are people who have been in office for 40+ years, and still are going based on the ideals and beliefs the US had in the 50s/60s/70s.

We need people who understand what is ACTUALLY happening here.

Honestly, Trump is good at business, but he has also gone completely bankrupt like 4 times, and he honestly is starting his political career with similar aspects and beliefs as folks who were BIG into genocide. Just saying.


Bikes are fun though.

this.


if i was president.
all drugs would be legalized.
all firearms would be legal.
those who commit unlawful acts in ill manner with firearms would be punished to death.
rapists, pedophiles, child abusers would be punished to death.
outsourcing jobs would be illegal and include heavy fines a long with business license revoked.
all those who cross the border illegally will be shot on scene.
all races, genders, whether black white gay straight guy girl etc would be equal.
i would remove all soldiers and military bases from overseas and focus on civil defense.
a mandatory program in schools to educate children to protect themselves and be proficient with firearms and combat would be instated.
congress members would be limited to, two 4 year terms and then must resign and will not be eligible to sit on congress ever again.
all veterans would be given the same medical care as those members of congress.

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2/13/2016 12:51 PM
Edited Date/Time: 2/13/2016 12:52 PM

JonnyGanja wrote:

this.


if i was president.
all drugs would be legalized.
all firearms would be legal.
those who commit unlawful acts in ill manner with firearms would be punished to death.
rapists, pedophiles, child abusers would be punished to death.
outsourcing jobs would be illegal and include heavy fines a long with business license revoked.
all those who cross the border illegally will be shot on scene.
all races, genders, whether black white gay straight guy girl etc would be equal.
i would remove all soldiers and military bases from overseas and focus on civil defense.
a mandatory program in schools to educate children to protect themselves and be proficient with firearms and combat would be instated.
congress members would be limited to, two 4 year terms and then must resign and will not be eligible to sit on congress ever again.
all veterans would be given the same medical care as those members of congress.

You would be both the best and worst president ever.



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2/13/2016 1:17 PM

dave lawrence wrote:

Honestly what we need in the US is to LIMIT TERMS FOR THE SENATE, not allow them to add raises for themselves (which they can do), not allow them to collect pensions after 2 years serving (maybe bump it to after 2-4 terms?), they can delay to hold special sessions where they get paid INSANELY WELL, and HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE DECISIONS MADE. Also make them LEGALLY REQUIRED to disclose all funds they receive from any lobbyists etc, and if it is found that they were bought/not reporting it, they would instantly be removed from the senate and not allowed into any form of politics ever again.

They actually make the laws and rules. President can override them, yes, but that isn't too common.

There are people who have been in office for 40+ years, and still are going based on the ideals and beliefs the US had in the 50s/60s/70s.

We need people who understand what is ACTUALLY happening here.

Honestly, Trump is good at business, but he has also gone completely bankrupt like 4 times, and he honestly is starting his political career with similar aspects and beliefs as folks who were BIG into genocide. Just saying.


Bikes are fun though.

JonnyGanja wrote:

this.


if i was president.
all drugs would be legalized.
all firearms would be legal.
those who commit unlawful acts in ill manner with firearms would be punished to death.
rapists, pedophiles, child abusers would be punished to death.
outsourcing jobs would be illegal and include heavy fines a long with business license revoked.
all those who cross the border illegally will be shot on scene.
all races, genders, whether black white gay straight guy girl etc would be equal.
i would remove all soldiers and military bases from overseas and focus on civil defense.
a mandatory program in schools to educate children to protect themselves and be proficient with firearms and combat would be instated.
congress members would be limited to, two 4 year terms and then must resign and will not be eligible to sit on congress ever again.
all veterans would be given the same medical care as those members of congress.

Francky wrote:

You would be both the best and worst president ever.



FAIR AND FIRM, *slams fist on desk*

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2/13/2016 3:21 PM
Edited Date/Time: 2/13/2016 3:34 PM

If I where president I would invade lower previlledged countries with corrupt governments , go into those countries and kill off the people In the corrupt government with power , then promise the local indigenous population that i would provide them with shelter, funding to industrialize and create jobs, food, clean drinking water and education for their kids on the conditions that i get full cooperation with their industry and natural resources , provide them with jobs in that industry to help them get ahead and jobs within my growing military to fight the war efforts .

I would do this country after country until a full fledged world war was going on, genghis khan , Napoleon , and hitler all tried and failed , it's about time somebody else took a shot at trying to take over the world

The main objectives would be to boost the economy and get everyone jobs ( war is good business and really gives industry a boost)

Eliminate corrupt governments and go in and help locals in suffering foreign countries in an effort to industrialize them and get them caught up

Thin out the numbers of the human race , at this rate it's going to be unsustainable with how it's growing . Going to need an enemy so I would fight against religious extremists in an effort to eliminate and outlaw religion and the Bible Belt altogether

My first act as president would be to kickstart the new war with my version of pearl harbour , I would blitzkreig Vatican City

Vote eskimojay for president of Murica 2016 !

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2/13/2016 3:47 PM

JonnyGanja wrote:

rand paul?

He is a good idea, but he will not make it, it looks. His ideas on small government make me very happy though. It works well. The less the government is in my business the better.

But sadly not many see that. He actually would be a great leader. I think he is probably one of the smartest candidates as well. He has a lot of good ideas. Too bad he is running republican, he can't get a good word in since Trump blathers and rips on all the other lame candidates.

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2/13/2016 3:52 PM

Brayden_Buckingham wrote:

Politics are a fucking joke and the Government is too . All useless , they fuck over the little people . One big scam "we the people" really means "the ones with money"

Bernie seems cool though .

The world will be fucked all the time either way , Obama was the best there is for a long time , cleaning up after Bushes shit .

Honestly people only vote based on where they work at and how it'll make their life better , not the countries . That's why things will never be the same .

That's exactly why Bernie would change things. He is not funded by the people creating the things that screw us little people.

And yeah, i agree, Obama did get some work done. I do not like how he kinda edged out the coal industry here where I live, but i kinda agree with him anyways. I don't really care about people who wanna mine coal. Sorry.

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2/13/2016 3:53 PM

MaximusBikes wrote:

He is a good idea, but he will not make it, it looks. His ideas on small government make me very happy though. It works well. The less the government is in my business the better.

But sadly not many see that. He actually would be a great leader. I think he is probably one of the smartest candidates as well. He has a lot of good ideas. Too bad he is running republican, he can't get a good word in since Trump blathers and rips on all the other lame candidates.

media biased towards Hillary and trump just reminds me of the episode of south park with a douche and turd sandwich. its a shame people dont stand up anymore too comfortable with their lives, we're in need a revolution

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2/13/2016 7:27 PM

JonnyGanja wrote:

rand paul?

MaximusBikes wrote:

He is a good idea, but he will not make it, it looks. His ideas on small government make me very happy though. It works well. The less the government is in my business the better.

But sadly not many see that. He actually would be a great leader. I think he is probably one of the smartest candidates as well. He has a lot of good ideas. Too bad he is running republican, he can't get a good word in since Trump blathers and rips on all the other lame candidates.

JonnyGanja wrote:

media biased towards Hillary and trump just reminds me of the episode of south park with a douche and turd sandwich. its a shame people dont stand up anymore too comfortable with their lives, we're in need a revolution

Yeah, a revolution would be scary but good for us all.

We've lost our togetherness because of the internet. Back in the 60s with civil rights everyone really got together because of the hippies and shit. Now we all just cry our thoughts onto the internet... ironic i'm saying this on here.

But it's too late unless someone really pulls it together. We need a strong leader.

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2/13/2016 7:55 PM

MaximusBikes wrote:

Yeah, a revolution would be scary but good for us all.

We've lost our togetherness because of the internet. Back in the 60s with civil rights everyone really got together because of the hippies and shit. Now we all just cry our thoughts onto the internet... ironic i'm saying this on here.

But it's too late unless someone really pulls it together. We need a strong leader.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Thomas Jefferson

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2/13/2016 8:21 PM

JonnyGanja wrote:

media biased towards Hillary and trump just reminds me of the episode of south park with a douche and turd sandwich. its a shame people dont stand up anymore too comfortable with their lives, we're in need a revolution

MaximusBikes wrote:

Yeah, a revolution would be scary but good for us all.

We've lost our togetherness because of the internet. Back in the 60s with civil rights everyone really got together because of the hippies and shit. Now we all just cry our thoughts onto the internet... ironic i'm saying this on here.

But it's too late unless someone really pulls it together. We need a strong leader.

JonnyGanja wrote:

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Thomas Jefferson

Very true, man. But who? Who will it be?

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