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4/19/2015 9:22 AM

I ordered my Fit TA's is gum about a week ago and i dont think ive got the wax layer off yet. Is there any way to get it off other than just riding?

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4/19/2015 1:29 PM

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4/19/2015 1:36 PM

i think its already off but you were too thick to realize that tires that come bald won't grip like treaded tires

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4/19/2015 2:12 PM

They're probably fine. Skid around a little to get them nice and tacky if you have to.

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4/19/2015 2:16 PM

bmxsteve99 wrote:

i think its already off but you were too thick to realize that tires that come bald won't grip like treaded tires

I don't think so cause I went to 270 a hip the other day and my front tire hit the metal base of the hip and I slid out, it was completely dry too

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4/20/2015 8:20 AM

I had them and they were sick as fuck . 1 or 2 rides should get it off . You're probably overthinking it .

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4/20/2015 10:07 AM

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4/21/2015 7:42 AM

I've been told by someone who rocks those new bald tires that they always slip in parks and it got to the point where if he was going to ride a heavy park sesh for a while he literally swapped out the tires with his old ones

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4/21/2015 7:56 AM

windex and a rag

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4/21/2015 1:06 PM

Metal is slick... so be careful

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4/22/2015 9:58 AM

bmxsteve99 wrote:

i think its already off but you were too thick to realize that tires that come bald won't grip like treaded tires

It's a wonder why race cars run slick tires...I guess they don't hook up as well as treaded tires

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4/22/2015 10:00 AM

bmxsteve99 wrote:

i think its already off but you were too thick to realize that tires that come bald won't grip like treaded tires

bobPA wrote:

It's a wonder why race cars run slick tires...I guess they don't hook up as well as treaded tires

Totally different compounds.

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4/22/2015 10:12 AM

bobPA wrote:

It's a wonder why race cars run slick tires...I guess they don't hook up as well as treaded tires

Can't really compare. Racing slicks are from a much softer compound hence the grip but wear out much faster than treaded tires.

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4/22/2015 11:09 AM

bmxsteve99 wrote:

i think its already off but you were too thick to realize that tires that come bald won't grip like treaded tires

bobPA wrote:

It's a wonder why race cars run slick tires...I guess they don't hook up as well as treaded tires

Ahh skeet skeet wrote:

Can't really compare. Racing slicks are from a much softer compound hence the grip but wear out much faster than treaded ...more

this and racing slicks need to be hot before they grip properly, tires on a bmx will never get anywhere near that hot.

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4/22/2015 2:05 PM

bobPA wrote:

It's a wonder why race cars run slick tires...I guess they don't hook up as well as treaded tires

Ahh skeet skeet wrote:

Can't really compare. Racing slicks are from a much softer compound hence the grip but wear out much faster than treaded ...more

Thomas_Kerrigan wrote:

this and racing slicks need to be hot before they grip properly, tires on a bmx will never get anywhere near that hot.

And racing slicks are used on perfect concrete that the tire compound was designed for in the first place

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4/24/2015 5:29 AM

Ahh skeet skeet wrote:

Can't really compare. Racing slicks are from a much softer compound hence the grip but wear out much faster than treaded ...more

Thomas_Kerrigan wrote:

this and racing slicks need to be hot before they grip properly, tires on a bmx will never get anywhere near that hot.

bmxsteve99 wrote:

And racing slicks are used on perfect concrete that the tire compound was designed for in the first place

Concrete tracks you say? Most road courses, or ovals for that matter are good old fashioned Tarmac.

Regardless the principle is the same. Slick tire = more material contacting the pavement. Treaded tires also work better with heat...not sure what the intended argument is there?

A slick with the same compound as a treaded tire will always hook up on hard, dry surfaces better, it's just science.

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4/24/2015 5:32 AM

Correct but these aren't racing slicks. They're bike tires.......

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4/24/2015 5:39 AM
Edited Date/Time: 4/24/2015 5:39 AM

Ricked_Em wrote:

Correct but these aren't racing slicks. They're bike tires.......

I understand. You don't understand the concept that a slick bicycle tire still puts a bigger contact patch on the ground then a treaded bicycle tire, regardless of compounds or a "race tire". A higher coefficient of friction will always be achieved by a slick.

More rubber on the road=more traction

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4/26/2015 3:31 AM

bmxsteve99 wrote:

i think its already off but you were too thick to realize that tires that come bald won't grip like treaded tires

TheBillyMullins wrote:

I don't think so cause I went to 270 a hip the other day and my front tire hit the metal base of the hip and I slid out, it ...more

Yeah they just suck for that sorta terrain, my local is metal an its shit for grip. Get animal ghls if you want grip on a metal park

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4/26/2015 8:42 AM

Ricked_Em wrote:

Correct but these aren't racing slicks. They're bike tires.......

bobPA wrote:

I understand. You don't understand the concept that a slick bicycle tire still puts a bigger contact patch on the ground then ...more

Once you "break in" a slick tire, they're great for concrete and wood parks, sometimes even metal.

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4/26/2015 4:29 PM

Why the hell would anyone put a wax layer over a tire , that makes no sense to me

That's like selling a turbo system for a car with a brake disable system included

Just sounds fucking stupid

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4/26/2015 4:42 PM

eskimojay wrote:

Why the hell would anyone put a wax layer over a tire , that makes no sense to me

That's like selling a turbo system for a ...more

Prob for storage. Keeps the rubber from drying out if it happens to sit on a shelf for a year

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4/26/2015 4:44 PM

Never thought about it that way but that kind of makes sense

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4/26/2015 6:10 PM

Maybe its thc wax so u can vape it with your gum tires

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4/26/2015 10:14 PM

eskimojay wrote:

Why the hell would anyone put a wax layer over a tire , that makes no sense to me

That's like selling a turbo system for a ...more

Ricked_Em wrote:

Prob for storage. Keeps the rubber from drying out if it happens to sit on a shelf for a year

I think it 's the mold release compound from the manufacturing of the tires if I am remembering correctly, I don't know that tires dry out very easily, considering that Eric l is running og primo wall tires from a whole back. I think the tire being slick makes it harder to manufacture compared to treaded tires with the tiny bumps when you first get em

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4/27/2015 2:00 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/27/2015 2:01 PM

eskimojay wrote:

Why the hell would anyone put a wax layer over a tire , that makes no sense to me

That's like selling a turbo system for a ...more

What dude said. Its mold release.

Before you mold a tire, you spray the inside of the mold with mold release so that the finished tire comes out of the mold easily without getting stuck or damaged. Its like cooking spray.

It gets cleaned off of most tires before they ship, but sometimes it just doesn't. The first run of Chase Hawks had it, and I would get fucking wheelspin on dry concrete. The later runs don't have it.

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5/1/2015 7:49 AM
Edited Date/Time: 5/1/2015 7:49 AM

About a week ago? Lol you tweakin ho.

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5/1/2015 12:45 PM

Thomas_Kerrigan wrote:

this and racing slicks need to be hot before they grip properly, tires on a bmx will never get anywhere near that hot.

bmxsteve99 wrote:

And racing slicks are used on perfect concrete that the tire compound was designed for in the first place

bobPA wrote:

Concrete tracks you say? Most road courses, or ovals for that matter are good old fashioned Tarmac.

Regardless the principle ...more

On paper you are correct with more tread there is more to grip, however that is not the only force at hand. Humidity, temperature, crap on the pavement, angle of the weight of you and the bike, where you are positioned on it and the force of how hard it comes down and angles play a big factor in this. With a race car the forces are pretty similar at all times, downforce on the car from wind and weight, angles are all pretty similar as well. You don't typically see a car get off the apron at a 45 degree angle with the wheels turned and weight distribution changing constantly. For the most part they stay in line with the tracks. and weight inside the car doesn't move much if at all.

Those tracks are literally the smoothest pavement possible. You will not find a better example of road anywhere else.

Having 4 tires that are a foot wide give you a hell of a lot more grip than 2 2 inch wide bmx tires. Not to mention the compounds are different, heat makes the tires tacky (why do formula one racers heat the tires if it doesn't matter?) Downforce on the car and so on.

At a park you could literally hit a ramp at nearly any angle, and leaning just a little too much could cause a wash out for anyone, any tire. On a race track you won't be coming at the track from nearly any angle leaning one way or another. There is way less consistency in BMX.

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5/1/2015 2:08 PM

Generally speaking, you will get larger lateral acceleration out of tires with a larger contact patch. It's not as simple as a larger surface area though, your normal F=mu*normal force doesn't work for tires very consistently.

Where treads work better is when there is something (dust, water, hamsters, whatever) between the tire and the surface. The tread pattern channels the hamsters away from the contact area.

That's why there aren't any true slick bike tires. They all have some sort of groove going on.

I minored in motorsports in college, and really should dig my book out and give you a proper answer, but I just CBA.

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