Fit marv frame build HELP

just for the sake of clarity, was the frame or the bottom bracket left out for a year?
NEVER EVER GET A FRAME TO RAW BY SANDING!!!!!
a better idea is using paint remover, then a wire wheel on a dremel tool to get the rusty spots
i dont think the marv was ever made as a complete for purchase and i dont think it has been out for a year
as for sprocket:http://www.danscomp.com/products-PARTS/458235/Tree_4130_HT_V2_Spline-Drive_Sprocket.html
bottom bracket: all of them are pretty much the same, just get any mid bottom bracket
driver: pretty sure you mean hub, becuase you cant just put a driver on any hub: complete wheel:http://www.danscomp.com/products-PARTS/401076/Odyssey_Q2_Quadrant_FA_Cassette_Wheel.html

half link chain: http://www.danscomp.com/products-PARTS/464093/Cult_Half_Link_Chain.html

bmxsteve99 wrote:

just for the sake of clarity, was the frame or the bottom bracket left out for a year?
NEVER EVER GET A FRAME TO RAW BY SANDING!!!!!
a better idea is using paint remover, then a wire wheel on a dremel tool to get the rusty spots
i dont think the marv was ever made as a complete for purchase and i dont think it has been out for a year
as for sprocket:http://www.danscomp.com/products-PARTS/458235/Tree_4130_HT_V2_Spline-Drive_Sprocket.html
bottom bracket: all of them are pretty much the same, just get any mid bottom bracket
driver: pretty sure you mean hub, becuase you cant just put a driver on any hub: complete wheel:http://www.danscomp.com/products-PARTS/401076/Odyssey_Q2_Quadrant_FA_Cassette_Wheel.html

half link chain: http://www.danscomp.com/products-PARTS/464093/Cult_Half_Link_Chain.html

Marv was never made as a complete...post pics because things don't add up. If you got it used someone probably lied to you. I have the Marv frame and for someone to leave it outside for a year, you'd have to be an idiot.

There is a possibility someone built a complete but with such an expensive frame I don't see why they'd leave it outside..

I KNOW its a marv because when i was sanding it down at my work (again i work at a body/painting shop) the serial number and FIT205 became visible due to spray-paint covering it up...so i emailed FITBIKES with the serial number and they told me it was a FIT marv...and yes it was rusty, yes it was left outside..i was mistaken about it being a complete, but everything had surface rust on it, so bad i have to sand the whole frame down to bare metal, use primer, sealer, basecoat, then clearcoat

bmxsteve99 wrote:

just for the sake of clarity, was the frame or the bottom bracket left out for a year?
NEVER EVER GET A FRAME TO RAW BY SANDING!!!!!
a better idea is using paint remover, then a wire wheel on a dremel tool to get the rusty spots
i dont think the marv was ever made as a complete for purchase and i dont think it has been out for a year
as for sprocket:http://www.danscomp.com/products-PARTS/458235/Tree_4130_HT_V2_Spline-Drive_Sprocket.html
bottom bracket: all of them are pretty much the same, just get any mid bottom bracket
driver: pretty sure you mean hub, becuase you cant just put a driver on any hub: complete wheel:http://www.danscomp.com/products-PARTS/401076/Odyssey_Q2_Quadrant_FA_Cassette_Wheel.html

half link chain: http://www.danscomp.com/products-PARTS/464093/Cult_Half_Link_Chain.html

I know what im doing sanding i paint cars/forklifts/motorcycles/do body work at a shop with every product and more at my fingertips, again im using primer, urethane sealer, basecoat, clearcoat for a living thanks for your concern though!

i already sanded my forks down to bare metal, polished it, and simply cleared it with 4 coats of clear to give it that "rat" look i love it

bmxsteve99 wrote:

just for the sake of clarity, was the frame or the bottom bracket left out for a year?
NEVER EVER GET A FRAME TO RAW BY SANDING!!!!!
a better idea is using paint remover, then a wire wheel on a dremel tool to get the rusty spots
i dont think the marv was ever made as a complete for purchase and i dont think it has been out for a year
as for sprocket:http://www.danscomp.com/products-PARTS/458235/Tree_4130_HT_V2_Spline-Drive_Sprocket.html
bottom bracket: all of them are pretty much the same, just get any mid bottom bracket
driver: pretty sure you mean hub, becuase you cant just put a driver on any hub: complete wheel:http://www.danscomp.com/products-PARTS/401076/Odyssey_Q2_Quadrant_FA_Cassette_Wheel.html

half link chain: http://www.danscomp.com/products-PARTS/464093/Cult_Half_Link_Chain.html

i sand all my frames... and paint remover is ineffective for most factory paintjobs

bmxsteve99 wrote:

just for the sake of clarity, was the frame or the bottom bracket left out for a year?
NEVER EVER GET A FRAME TO RAW BY SANDING!!!!!
a better idea is using paint remover, then a wire wheel on a dremel tool to get the rusty spots
i dont think the marv was ever made as a complete for purchase and i dont think it has been out for a year
as for sprocket:http://www.danscomp.com/products-PARTS/458235/Tree_4130_HT_V2_Spline-Drive_Sprocket.html
bottom bracket: all of them are pretty much the same, just get any mid bottom bracket
driver: pretty sure you mean hub, becuase you cant just put a driver on any hub: complete wheel:http://www.danscomp.com/products-PARTS/401076/Odyssey_Q2_Quadrant_FA_Cassette_Wheel.html

half link chain: http://www.danscomp.com/products-PARTS/464093/Cult_Half_Link_Chain.html

Tbooks wrote:

I know what im doing sanding i paint cars/forklifts/motorcycles/do body work at a shop with every product and more at my fingertips, again im using primer, urethane sealer, basecoat, clearcoat for a living thanks for your concern though!

i already sanded my forks down to bare metal, polished it, and simply cleared it with 4 coats of clear to give it that "rat" look i love it

Also the bottom bracket was in there was unsealed BB :\ i have a feeling i cannot throw a sealed bottom bracket it there? when i opened it up all the ball bearings fell out.

As for the spline dr sprocket, the cranks i have now were from a bolt driven sprocket, so will i run into a problem there??

And as for the hub/driver situation, i think im just going to splurge buy a whole new rear wheel/hub/driver

Thanks for your input

bmxsteve99 wrote:

just for the sake of clarity, was the frame or the bottom bracket left out for a year?
NEVER EVER GET A FRAME TO RAW BY SANDING!!!!!
a better idea is using paint remover, then a wire wheel on a dremel tool to get the rusty spots
i dont think the marv was ever made as a complete for purchase and i dont think it has been out for a year
as for sprocket:http://www.danscomp.com/products-PARTS/458235/Tree_4130_HT_V2_Spline-Drive_Sprocket.html
bottom bracket: all of them are pretty much the same, just get any mid bottom bracket
driver: pretty sure you mean hub, becuase you cant just put a driver on any hub: complete wheel:http://www.danscomp.com/products-PARTS/401076/Odyssey_Q2_Quadrant_FA_Cassette_Wheel.html

half link chain: http://www.danscomp.com/products-PARTS/464093/Cult_Half_Link_Chain.html

Tbooks wrote:

I know what im doing sanding i paint cars/forklifts/motorcycles/do body work at a shop with every product and more at my fingertips, again im using primer, urethane sealer, basecoat, clearcoat for a living thanks for your concern though!

i already sanded my forks down to bare metal, polished it, and simply cleared it with 4 coats of clear to give it that "rat" look i love it

if you like polished metal check out my bike check...

Tbooks wrote:

Also the bottom bracket was in there was unsealed BB :\ i have a feeling i cannot throw a sealed bottom bracket it there? when i opened it up all the ball bearings fell out.

As for the spline dr sprocket, the cranks i have now were from a bolt driven sprocket, so will i run into a problem there??

And as for the hub/driver situation, i think im just going to splurge buy a whole new rear wheel/hub/driver

Thanks for your input

if its really a marv it will be a mid bb. knock the cups out and press some sealed bearing in

Tbooks wrote:

I know what im doing sanding i paint cars/forklifts/motorcycles/do body work at a shop with every product and more at my fingertips, again im using primer, urethane sealer, basecoat, clearcoat for a living thanks for your concern though!

i already sanded my forks down to bare metal, polished it, and simply cleared it with 4 coats of clear to give it that "rat" look i love it

Tbooks wrote:

Also the bottom bracket was in there was unsealed BB :\ i have a feeling i cannot throw a sealed bottom bracket it there? when i opened it up all the ball bearings fell out.

As for the spline dr sprocket, the cranks i have now were from a bolt driven sprocket, so will i run into a problem there??

And as for the hub/driver situation, i think im just going to splurge buy a whole new rear wheel/hub/driver

Thanks for your input

SnM An1mal wrote:

if its really a marv it will be a mid bb. knock the cups out and press some sealed bearing in

Ill get a pic up shortly of the serial number and bike in general...it was in rough condition, bottom bracket wasn't all dried out though...

when i got the bike the seat was up like 2 feet, and it was being ridden by someone who didnt bmx/know what they had

it had a WTP seat and Odyssey Grips and a stolen 14mm hollow axle front wheel, i cannot tell what forks or bars, and it had like a 40T sprocket on it ;(

Tbooks wrote:

I know what im doing sanding i paint cars/forklifts/motorcycles/do body work at a shop with every product and more at my fingertips, again im using primer, urethane sealer, basecoat, clearcoat for a living thanks for your concern though!

i already sanded my forks down to bare metal, polished it, and simply cleared it with 4 coats of clear to give it that "rat" look i love it

Tbooks wrote:

Also the bottom bracket was in there was unsealed BB :\ i have a feeling i cannot throw a sealed bottom bracket it there? when i opened it up all the ball bearings fell out.

As for the spline dr sprocket, the cranks i have now were from a bolt driven sprocket, so will i run into a problem there??

And as for the hub/driver situation, i think im just going to splurge buy a whole new rear wheel/hub/driver

Thanks for your input

SnM An1mal wrote:

if its really a marv it will be a mid bb. knock the cups out and press some sealed bearing in

So I'll get a Mid BB, and for the sprocket/cranks, my cranks are bolt drive 3 piece, If i want a spline drive sprocket will i need to get new cranks? im okay with having a 28t bolt drive sprocket

Tbooks wrote:

Also the bottom bracket was in there was unsealed BB :\ i have a feeling i cannot throw a sealed bottom bracket it there? when i opened it up all the ball bearings fell out.

As for the spline dr sprocket, the cranks i have now were from a bolt driven sprocket, so will i run into a problem there??

And as for the hub/driver situation, i think im just going to splurge buy a whole new rear wheel/hub/driver

Thanks for your input

SnM An1mal wrote:

if its really a marv it will be a mid bb. knock the cups out and press some sealed bearing in

Tbooks wrote:

So I'll get a Mid BB, and for the sprocket/cranks, my cranks are bolt drive 3 piece, If i want a spline drive sprocket will i need to get new cranks? im okay with having a 28t bolt drive sprocket

with switching to a sealed bb youll need a new spindle too. i would recommend new cranks though. ezra geists are a good deal

Can you even get unsealed mid bb? Lots about this free doesn't add up, like I seriously doubt you could run a 40t sprocket with any sort of decent chainline.

Get some pics up man

Gump wrote:

Can you even get unsealed mid bb? Lots about this free doesn't add up, like I seriously doubt you could run a 40t sprocket with any sort of decent chainline.

Get some pics up man

yeah you can get unsealed mid bb

I'm going to link to some pics in just a minute

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bike the day my friend sold it to me

That's not a fit marv for sure.

Im not arguing it is a marv but a rep from fit told me the serial number comes up as a marv..I can screenshot the email if you dont believe me..im just going off what the fit rep told me

Just trying to figure out what kind of frame this is, this is beginning to be more of a hassle than i anticipated

Tbooks wrote:

Im not arguing it is a marv but a rep from fit told me the serial number comes up as a marv..I can screenshot the email if you dont believe me..im just going off what the fit rep told me

I know but I'm just saying that it is nowhere close to a marv. This is a fit marv. I know you're just going off what you were told, maybe send them the pictures and they can tell you, because I do think that's a fit just an old one.

Tbooks wrote:

Im not arguing it is a marv but a rep from fit told me the serial number comes up as a marv..I can screenshot the email if you dont believe me..im just going off what the fit rep told me

Four wrote:

I know but I'm just saying that it is nowhere close to a marv. This is a fit marv. I know you're just going off what you were told, maybe send them the pictures and they can tell you, because I do think that's a fit just an old one.

no doubt, i emailed them again and asked if serial numbers ever cross referenced older bikes, either way i would still like to build this bike...i just want to know what i have, im going for a budget build, I'm still a pretty good rider, but i dont need top of the line everything, i just need enough to get by

Its definitely not a marv. I have a Marv frame, you would have a serial number on one side of the bb and the Marv 2 1 3 or whatever the top tube size is.

Do this, get a ruler and measure the size of the bb, this frame looks old...it could have a american size bb, not a mid.

not a marv

I have a Marv frame & that is 100% NOT a Marv Frame. It may well be a Fit but its an OLD Fit NOT a Marv!