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9/5/2013 12:33 PM

So , what do you guys think about this frame geometry :

4130 full crmo, tapered butted tubing, int. chain tensioner
TOP TUBE LENGTH 20.5"
CHAIN STAY LENGTH 13.2"
HEAD TUBE ANGLE 75°
SEAT TUBE ANGLE 70°
BOTTOM BRACKET HEIGHT 11.6"
STAND OVER HEIGHT 8.5"

Is it good? I ride street and dirt (rarely)

It might be a replacement for my eastern ramrodder 2010 frame. is at 170€ new. I can sell the ramrodder for 100€+ .

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9/5/2013 12:56 PM

looks good for street, depends what u like tho
with short chainstays its harder to keep a manual but easier to do bunnyhop tricks

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9/5/2013 4:34 PM

Specs are good, you'll like it. A 13.2 end will help with spinning and still have a good stability . I went from a 13.5 to 13.2 and really didn't notice to much. It may be easier to lift your rear but I noticed to I get more height on hops with a 13.5 end. As of now Im on a 13" end...While Im not concerned with having my super high hop height, its does make spinning tricks faster but, with the short end, you'll lose stability. In all, you'll get used to it. The geo you have listed is perfect. What frame are you interested in?

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9/5/2013 4:45 PM

The We the people Trust 2013 frame. I hope i can sell my ramrodder to buy this ahah. I emailed eastern now requesting the geometry of my actual frame too see the difrences. Since i'm left foot forward and spin left , the shorter end will help me i guess.

Mine is hi-ten , this is crmo i'll save a lot of weight ?

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9/5/2013 6:47 PM

One thing I learned after going from a stock frame with a standard back end length to a Sunday broadcaster frame is that fakies are about harder. Since the frame is more responsive, you spin around quicker, which makes half cabbing easier. That's not to say regular fakies are impossible though, it just takes some getting used to

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-HardBMX_Tim

9/5/2013 6:53 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/5/2013 6:59 PM

Yeah , the ramrodder doesn't has a long back end too , i can't fakie yet , i lose my balance when turning. I'll try half cabs!

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9/6/2013 7:24 AM

So , eastern e-mailed me , this is my actual frame specs:

Top Tube - 20.25"
Rear Triangle - 13.75"
Seat Tube Angle - 71
Headtube Angle - 74.5
Weight - 5lbs 2oz

I tought it was fucking more heavier!!! 2.3kg? it's fucking lite! What about the geometry guys , should i keep it?

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9/6/2013 7:45 AM

It depends on the kind of riding you do. That frame would be your park/trails/going fast frame (like gaps and stuff. It's more stable in the air and going fast

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9/6/2013 7:51 AM

I ride street , does it make much harder to practice street? i think i'll keep mine.

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9/6/2013 8:07 AM

It doesn't make all that much of a difference. I ride street and I'm pretty sure my old frame had really similar geo. I just got s new fram to upgrade

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9/8/2013 4:00 AM

I have a 13 inch cs atm and I've had 13.75 before. I think the shorter cs is better for learning stuff but its not that good for manuals and for spins I don't notice it much except for 180s but thats cuz its easier to lift the front end. I will change to 13.5 or around that by adding few links soon

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