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2/7/2018 8:40 AM

I'm picking this up tomorrow with a few other bits I'm buying real cheap. I've been told it's a wtp, and I'd assume it's pretty cheap (or a bit old) as it has welded on brake mounts. Just wondering if anyone knows what it is off the top of their head? There'll probably be clues on the bb, but I'm curious now. Don't bust your balls, it's not overly important. But thanks in advance if you have a look smile Photo

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2/7/2018 10:30 AM

I've looked back at least 10 years. Can't find any WTP, frame or complete, with that bridge.

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2/7/2018 10:39 AM

Wtp a2b

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2/7/2018 10:43 AM

I was thinking the Wtp A2B as well at first, but those have a chainstay wishbone...

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2/7/2018 10:44 AM

NateBrown62 wrote:

Wtp a2b

I looked at these and assumed the bridge was a flat plate on this..... But you might be right. Guess I'll find out tomorrow :/

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2/7/2018 10:45 AM

It's older but not too old maybe 09..might be a different version but it looks about the same besides the cs.i have one in redPhoto

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2/7/2018 10:59 AM

Didn't DK have an "X" "brake bridge"?

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2/7/2018 12:25 PM

SquirrelBait wrote:

I was thinking the Wtp A2B as well at first, but those have a chainstay wishbone...

I saw this just after I posted my reply! I'll see if there's any clues on the bb. It might be cheap trash. Or not a wtp. But I'm getting a few bits really really cheap so it doesn't matter too much

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2/7/2018 12:42 PM

Simple enigma, I have one

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2/7/2018 12:43 PM

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2/7/2018 12:44 PM

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2/7/2018 12:51 PM

Mychaylo wrote:

Simple enigma, I have one

Yours looks really close, but grumpysteve’s looks like it doesn’t have the seatstay gusset under the seat clamp like yours. Still a mystery.

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2/7/2018 1:01 PM
Edited Date/Time: 2/7/2018 1:02 PM

NateBrown62 wrote:

It's older but not too old maybe 09..might be a different version but it looks about the same besides the cs.i have one in red ...more

Nope, bridge is wrong
It's a dk x, looks like.

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2/7/2018 1:53 PM

Mychaylo wrote:

Simple enigma, I have one

SquirrelBait wrote:

Yours looks really close, but grumpysteve’s looks like it doesn’t have the seatstay gusset under the seat clamp like yours. ...more

Mine is a v1, i know the v2 and v3 had subtle changes but kept the brace, i'll see if his is a v2

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2/7/2018 1:56 PM
Edited Date/Time: 2/7/2018 2:00 PM

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2/7/2018 2:01 PM

Not a Simple Enigma V3. No tapered seattube. Photo

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2/7/2018 2:03 PM

It seems there are different tweaks even in runs, as some of the v3's had the pierced tt/ss junction before the x brace and some do not. very strange, might have to concede however similar its not the same

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2/7/2018 2:11 PM
Edited Date/Time: 2/7/2018 2:12 PM

Mychaylo wrote:

It seems there are different tweaks even in runs, as some of the v3's had the pierced tt/ss junction before the x brace and ...more

Steve's "X" bridge seems to be tubular. Not solid as the Enigma seems to be.

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2/7/2018 2:20 PM

grumpySteve wrote:

I'm picking this up tomorrow with a few other bits I'm buying real cheap. I've been told it's a wtp, and I'd assume it's ...more

Post pics of the inside of the dropouts and the bb

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2/7/2018 10:47 PM

Cheers for the ideas guys. I'm picking up today so I'll check the bb for clues. I'm also getting some (hopefully) fit bars, and a brand new Sunday freeze stem. All for £25. I don't need any of it, but I'll steal the bb from this frame if it's OK, and everything else is going toward a bike I'm building to get a friend rolling again. Another friend has a spare united beacon, so if this is trash it's all good. I'll pass it on to a kid that needs a frame or something

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2/8/2018 4:16 AM

I'm stumped here's more pics. I've been through every product catalogue I can find online, and I can't find a frame with the same bridge. It's got a 20.5 tt and 13.5 Cs. The gusset logo has convinced me it's definitely wtp. Probably from a cheap complete, but would be nice to know
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Everything that's close has something a little different, like removable brake mounts, or a toptube gusset, or no hole in the dropouts

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2/8/2018 4:41 AM

Scrap that, 2013 wtp justice, took bloody ages to find a clear pic of the bridge. I'll donate it smile

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