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4/11/2015 10:10 AM

Recently cracked my Cult OSv3 frame with an 11.8 BB, rode a buddies stranger ballast with an 11.5 BB and it felt pretty good for street. Now gonna get my own frame and it's between a Fiend Morrow, Palmere, or a Federal Churchill. I liked the feel of a lower bottom bracket, would the churchill feel a bit more stable since it's 11.7? Or could it be the 9 inch standover on the ballast over the OSv3 that made the bike feel more like I was riding it?

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4/11/2015 10:24 AM

Stand over height doesn't affect the feel of the bike. The stand over height only sets up where your seats going to be.

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4/11/2015 10:49 AM

Get the fiend morrow on the fiend site for 199 bucks

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4/11/2015 1:48 PM

Get a Fiend.

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4/13/2015 3:57 PM

Ahh skeet skeet wrote:

Stand over height doesn't affect the feel of the bike. The stand over height only sets up where your seats going to be.

That totally effects the feel of the bike haha

Anyway i recommend a sunday soundwave has the bb hight and is deffdefinitely a solid frame compared to th ones you mentioned

I feel like frames without built in adjusters are pointless anymore

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4/13/2015 4:31 PM

Ahh skeet skeet wrote:

Stand over height doesn't affect the feel of the bike. The stand over height only sets up where your seats going to be.

Yes, yes it does. Quite a bit actually. Don't believe me? Try riding a 7 inch standover and a 9 inch standover with the same everything else.

You WILL notice a difference.

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4/13/2015 4:58 PM

Ahh skeet skeet wrote:

Stand over height doesn't affect the feel of the bike. The stand over height only sets up where your seats going to be.

dave lawrence wrote:

Yes, yes it does. Quite a bit actually. Don't believe me? Try riding a 7 inch standover and a 9 inch standover with the same ...more

That's what I mean, like was it the 9 inch standover as opposed to the 8.75 that made the frame more comfortable? Or the 11.5 bottom bracket from an 11.8? Or is bottom bracket just stability and all that shit haha

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4/14/2015 9:54 AM

Ahh skeet skeet wrote:

Stand over height doesn't affect the feel of the bike. The stand over height only sets up where your seats going to be.

dave lawrence wrote:

Yes, yes it does. Quite a bit actually. Don't believe me? Try riding a 7 inch standover and a 9 inch standover with the same ...more

but if you ride a 9 inch standover and a 7 inch standover with two inches more seat post, and don't do whips/can cans/anything else where you're trying to get over the top tube, and get a slightly shorter top tube length to make up for the fact that top tube length is being measured from a point slightly further forward, they will feel exactly the same.

I did a huge post on this a few months ago. The only effect standover and seat tube angle have on geometry is to relocate the reference point for top tube length.

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