Frames

Go with a bonedeth frame

The BSD ALVX has a really short back end.

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Bone Deth Creepozoid V1 or
Subrosa Villicus Prime 2

Both have shorter chainstays

What do you mean by "short" ?

I ride a beverage frame with 13.25" --> 13.65" chainstays, i run it normally around 13.4" or .5" but i had try to shortening the chainstays with one (half) link less which was almost slammed around 13.3" and it was really twitchy and funny.

But shorter than 13.25... I will personnaly won't ride that... Each one his own preferences but precise how short you want.

And you were asking about the Sunday Broadcaster, i have just check the geo of it and it seems like a good tech frame, no stupid 75.5 ht angle, just a good all around 75, short 13--> 13,25" chainstays seems to fit what you want, and ingeniously coupled with a low 11.5" BB to make it reactive but not too twitchy and unstable.
Pretty much similar to my beverage frame but with a little bit shorter chainstays.

Francky wrote:

What do you mean by "short" ?

I ride a beverage frame with 13.25" --> 13.65" chainstays, i run it normally around 13.4" or ...more

Francky wrote:

What do you mean by "short" ?

I ride a beverage frame with 13.25" --> 13.65" chainstays, i run it normally around 13.4" or .5" but i had try to shortening the chainstays with one (half) link less which was almost slammed around 13.3" and it was really twitchy and funny.

But shorter than 13.25... I will personnaly won't ride that... Each one his own preferences but precise how short you want.

And you were asking about the Sunday Broadcaster, i have just check the geo of it and it seems like a good tech frame, no stupid 75.5 ht angle, just a good all around 75, short 13--> 13,25" chainstays seems to fit what you want, and ingeniously coupled with a low 11.5" BB to make it reactive but not too twitchy and unstable.
Pretty much similar to my beverage frame but with a little bit shorter chainstays.

...more

Short as in 13" thanks for the advice tho it was really helpful im thinking about that Sunday frame pretty heavily

Thanks for all the suggestions guys I needa study all of them haha

I've got a 13.0 chainstay on my s&m ltf it's actually harder to manual than my 13.75 guerra martyr

I think my Lacey frame is something like 13.5-13.75 or so, but I came from something like a 14" rear so it was crazy twitchy at first.