How many of you still ride cassettes?

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12/22/2017 1:46 PM

I know a lot of people have gone with the new age of BMX with freecoasters... but how many of you still ride cassettes? I still do, I love my Profile Mini, best hub I think I've ever owned... but I can still fakie just as good on a cassette if not better than a coaster.... so that's why I'll stick to cassettes. Simple. Solid. Reliable. That's what I love about cassettes... so do YOU ride a cassette? Or a coaster? And explain why you ride what you ride!

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12/22/2017 1:55 PM

I rode a cassette the first couple of years of riding. Then one day my chain broke and tried doing my Endo fakies flat and it was awesome. I even had a pretty nice hub too it was a gsport ratchet. So after that I saved up some money and got me my first coaster which was an eclat blind hub which was great when it worked but most of the time it was broken so I had a silent cassette hub with a quarter crank before engaging lol. Insold it then got a cult coaster hub which honestly is the best coaster I've had so far. Cassette hubs are cool nowadays if u can rock one and be steezy with it. Simone baracco and Mark Burnett come to mind. They make cassettes look good. I can't rock one though because I like going backwards too much which is why I'll probably only run a coaster. I ride a lot of street too. Half cabs are my jam and it's a lot easier to time one on a coaster imo.

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12/22/2017 2:00 PM

Under rotated a flip last season and my demolition rotator exploded , just bought a profile elite I’m stoked to be back on cassette

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12/22/2017 2:01 PM

I always have and always will ride a cassette. I like pedal pressure tricks too much, and any trick I wanna do going backwards I just do with a cassette. Plus I’ve ridden peoples bikes with coasters and I didn’t feel comfortable going really fast backwards because for one, it was harder to control. With a cassette you can kinda control it and your speed better. And two, I was always scared the slightest movement of my feet would cause it to engage and cause me to eat shit

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12/22/2017 2:09 PM

I've been on a coaster since I started except for the short time it took for my eclat Dynamic to shit the bed. I don't mind riding a cassette but I'm way more used to the coaster. It's nice to know that the cranks can move a lot either way and get out of the way if needed. It's horrible for tailwhips but I learned them on a coaster so I can deal with it.

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12/22/2017 2:11 PM

I only ride cassettes. I've tried freecoasters and I don't like the slack at all. I can fakie fine on a cassette and just don't feel the need for one. Plus, a cassette just feels more stable to me.

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12/22/2017 2:12 PM

Still on my 12yo Odyssey Hazard Lite V2 cassette wheel. The only maintenance I do on it is wipe away the gunk/ dirt build up periodically.

Waiting for it to give out, so I can buy a fresh new Hazard Lite Cassette wheel in chrome to replace it! lol

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12/22/2017 2:16 PM

sundaybmxRR wrote:

I always have and always will ride a cassette. I like pedal pressure tricks too much, and any trick I wanna do going backwards I just do with a cassette. Plus I’ve ridden peoples bikes with coasters and I didn’t feel comfortable going really fast backwards because for one, it was harder to control. With a cassette you can kinda control it and your speed better. And two, I was always scared the slightest movement of my feet would cause it to engage and cause me to eat shit

Same. I have and always will stick to cassettes...

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12/22/2017 2:16 PM

I just like the feeling of pedal pressure

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Hmmm

12/22/2017 2:52 PM

Cassette, because I hate slack and find it easier to balance back pedalling. I'm pretty crap at fakie tricks anyway, and I'd certainly never get one just to make it easier to roll out of landing something fakie. That just seems like cheating to me. If you're going to ride a freecoaster, ride like Ian schwartz

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12/22/2017 3:46 PM

Cassette for sure.

I still have an Eclat Blind wheel in near perfect condition because I hopped on the bandwagon, haha. I’ve used it maybe a month’s time total over the last two years I’ve had it. I’ll put it on maybe once every two or three months to have fun for a few days, but I love cassettes and I’ll always ride one.

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12/22/2017 3:50 PM

Convoy, antigram, birectional currently. Plus some stock cassettes.

I like them a lot. I feel like I have less control with a freecoaster. Might get one in the future but currently I am digging cassettes.

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12/22/2017 4:53 PM

I ride cassette. Been riding cassette since leaving the original ACS freecoaster which I rode until I sold them recently. I had them installed on my Mongoose decade pro (which I also sold). I never had an issue riding either.

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12/22/2017 5:09 PM

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12/22/2017 8:04 PM

I have no desire to ever own a freecoaster. I'm happy with my cassettes. Right now I have an old Odyssey hazard v2, and a kink incite, which after a long break in feels great now. Hoping the incite hold up for a few more years.

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12/22/2017 10:21 PM

ggallin422 wrote:

I have no desire to ever own a freecoaster. I'm happy with my cassettes. Right now I have an old Odyssey hazard v2, and a kink incite, which after a long break in feels great now. Hoping the incite hold up for a few more years.

Yep same. No desire to own a coaster either... by the way my buddy got your wheel a bit ago (which you'd know that of course) and is super stoked on it! He's super thankful that you were quick and easy to deal with!

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12/22/2017 10:26 PM

Coopers25 wrote:

I rode a cassette the first couple of years of riding. Then one day my chain broke and tried doing my Endo fakies flat and it was awesome. I even had a pretty nice hub too it was a gsport ratchet. So after that I saved up some money and got me my first coaster which was an eclat blind hub which was great when it worked but most of the time it was broken so I had a silent cassette hub with a quarter crank before engaging lol. Insold it then got a cult coaster hub which honestly is the best coaster I've had so far. Cassette hubs are cool nowadays if u can rock one and be steezy with it. Simone baracco and Mark Burnett come to mind. They make cassettes look good. I can't rock one though because I like going backwards too much which is why I'll probably only run a coaster. I ride a lot of street too. Half cabs are my jam and it's a lot easier to time one on a coaster imo.

I also love going backwards and doing fakie tricks, but I still chose to stick with a cassette... I'm not hating on you personally (I've got nothing against anyone on here lol) but I always love when I can show someone up who does a fakie trick on my cassette or when someone else does it... it's just funny becasue cassettes and coasters both take skill, but the backpedaling on the cassetteakes fakies/fakie tricks alot harder obviously... seeing someone do fakie tricks on a cassette that are better off done on a coaster are super fun and hard to do but they're really cool when you do them becasue it's like, "HA, I can still do fakies tricks on a cassette!" Idk though, that's just me lolgrin

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12/23/2017 1:21 AM

Coaster ! I can do pretty much everything I do with the coaster on a cassette too, but the feeling of cruising backwards is just awesome.

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12/23/2017 8:59 AM

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12/23/2017 9:00 AM

Pff everyone knows freewheels are the way to go.

In all actuality my Remix is doing well for me so far.

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12/23/2017 9:07 AM

Super-Pawl wrote:

Pff everyone knows freewheels are the way to go.

In all actuality my Remix is doing well for me so far.

Aren't freewheels and cassettes basically the same thing?

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Hmmm

12/23/2017 9:25 AM

Super-Pawl wrote:

Pff everyone knows freewheels are the way to go.

In all actuality my Remix is doing well for me so far.

Edman123 wrote:

Aren't freewheels and cassettes basically the same thing?

Kinda, a freewheel has the gear body thread on to replace it and the cassette is just a drop in sort of deal.

Very similar, enough to where you could say you ride a cassette since it has the same riding characteristics.

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12/23/2017 9:47 AM
Edited Date/Time: 12/23/2017 9:50 AM

I love playing with cassettes. I have quite a variety of pedal pressure tricks that I like to break out every now and then. I can also fakie longer on a cassette than a coaster (pedal pressure helps a whole lot.)

But 99% of the time I'm running a coaster. Riding coasters has "fixed" my riding a whole lot. I used to pedal pressure EVERYTHING. I would crank into my bunnyhops, take multiple half cranks instead of full cranks, the whole 9 yards. Riding freecoaster has forced me to ride so much smoother, aswell as forcing me to dial in balance tricks (manuals, tire taps, etc.) since I couldn't depend on pedal pressure anymore.

But I ride 90% street and ride fakie more than I ride forwards haha (and have been this way since my cassette days.) While I can do all the same tricks on a cassette, my fakie lines look so much smoother & feel better on a coaster.

Also, I LOOVEE the sound of tires roasting around a bowl without the sound of a cassette blocking the noise.
Edit; I'll also add that I learned how to pump around a bowl much more efficiently on a coaster. Gotta find new ways to go fast when you can't put a quick bitch-crank in.

I would 100% recommend, if you haven't rode a coaster, that you ride one for at least a month or so. Other than opening up doors for new/more technical tricks, it can also teach you a ton about excessive pedal pressuring, balance tricks, etc. It's definitely an awesome learning experience even for strict cassette riders. Besides, what's wrong with being skilled at riding both?

As soon as I'm healed up & can work on my next edit, I'm gonna make sure to fill it with lots of coaster AND cassette clips.

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12/23/2017 11:27 AM
Edited Date/Time: 12/23/2017 9:00 PM

HardBMX_Tim wrote:

I love playing with cassettes. I have quite a variety of pedal pressure tricks that I like to break out every now and then. I can also fakie longer on a cassette than a coaster (pedal pressure helps a whole lot.)

But 99% of the time I'm running a coaster. Riding coasters has "fixed" my riding a whole lot. I used to pedal pressure EVERYTHING. I would crank into my bunnyhops, take multiple half cranks instead of full cranks, the whole 9 yards. Riding freecoaster has forced me to ride so much smoother, aswell as forcing me to dial in balance tricks (manuals, tire taps, etc.) since I couldn't depend on pedal pressure anymore.

But I ride 90% street and ride fakie more than I ride forwards haha (and have been this way since my cassette days.) While I can do all the same tricks on a cassette, my fakie lines look so much smoother & feel better on a coaster.

Also, I LOOVEE the sound of tires roasting around a bowl without the sound of a cassette blocking the noise.
Edit; I'll also add that I learned how to pump around a bowl much more efficiently on a coaster. Gotta find new ways to go fast when you can't put a quick bitch-crank in.

I would 100% recommend, if you haven't rode a coaster, that you ride one for at least a month or so. Other than opening up doors for new/more technical tricks, it can also teach you a ton about excessive pedal pressuring, balance tricks, etc. It's definitely an awesome learning experience even for strict cassette riders. Besides, what's wrong with being skilled at riding both?

As soon as I'm healed up & can work on my next edit, I'm gonna make sure to fill it with lots of coaster AND cassette clips.

I think a lot of the reason some people are still on cassettes or coasters when they'd be better off on the other, is the whole mindset in BMX of "I'm way more hardcore than everyone else by riding a bike that doesn't fit me or suit my riding style" or "I'm the coolest kid here because I have the trendiest parts that don't actually work for my style or I can't use properly". You see it with 6'4 old guys still running their 20.5" frame and 7.5" bars from way back in the day or the 4' 10-year-olds with 21.5" frames and 11" bars. Everyone's so stuck in the mindset of "X is better/more hardcore so I should have my bike like that". Imagine what people could do, how fast they'd learn, how much longer they'd be able to ride for and overall, how much more enjoyable riding would be for them, if they had their bike set up right for them instead of just going with the current trend or what's more considered to be more "hardcore"...

Just some observations I've made having traveled around a lot and seen the same thing everywhere I've been...

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12/23/2017 11:40 AM

HardBMX_Tim wrote:

I love playing with cassettes. I have quite a variety of pedal pressure tricks that I like to break out every now and then. I can also fakie longer on a cassette than a coaster (pedal pressure helps a whole lot.)

But 99% of the time I'm running a coaster. Riding coasters has "fixed" my riding a whole lot. I used to pedal pressure EVERYTHING. I would crank into my bunnyhops, take multiple half cranks instead of full cranks, the whole 9 yards. Riding freecoaster has forced me to ride so much smoother, aswell as forcing me to dial in balance tricks (manuals, tire taps, etc.) since I couldn't depend on pedal pressure anymore.

But I ride 90% street and ride fakie more than I ride forwards haha (and have been this way since my cassette days.) While I can do all the same tricks on a cassette, my fakie lines look so much smoother & feel better on a coaster.

Also, I LOOVEE the sound of tires roasting around a bowl without the sound of a cassette blocking the noise.
Edit; I'll also add that I learned how to pump around a bowl much more efficiently on a coaster. Gotta find new ways to go fast when you can't put a quick bitch-crank in.

I would 100% recommend, if you haven't rode a coaster, that you ride one for at least a month or so. Other than opening up doors for new/more technical tricks, it can also teach you a ton about excessive pedal pressuring, balance tricks, etc. It's definitely an awesome learning experience even for strict cassette riders. Besides, what's wrong with being skilled at riding both?

As soon as I'm healed up & can work on my next edit, I'm gonna make sure to fill it with lots of coaster AND cassette clips.

p1p1092 wrote:

I think a lot of the reason some people are still on cassettes or coasters when they'd be better off on the other, is the whole mindset in BMX of "I'm way more hardcore than everyone else by riding a bike that doesn't fit me or suit my riding style" or "I'm the coolest kid here because I have the trendiest parts that don't actually work for my style or I can't use properly". You see it with 6'4 old guys still running their 20.5" frame and 7.5" bars from way back in the day or the 4' 10-year-olds with 21.5" frames and 11" bars. Everyone's so stuck in the mindset of "X is better/more hardcore so I should have my bike like that". Imagine what people could do, how fast they'd learn, how much longer they'd be able to ride for and overall, how much more enjoyable riding would be for them, if they had their bike set up right for them instead of just going with the current trend or what's more considered to be more "hardcore"...

Just some observations I've made having traveled around a lot and seen the same thing everywhere I've been...

I mainly ride a cassette because I feel they are a more reliable mechanism.

Pedal pressure, and the vibration you feel through your bike all help too.

Id like to have a freecoaster wheel but I dont feel its something Id spend money on at the moment; Perhaps in the future.

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12/23/2017 11:43 AM
Edited Date/Time: 12/23/2017 11:43 AM

HardBMX_Tim wrote:

I love playing with cassettes. I have quite a variety of pedal pressure tricks that I like to break out every now and then. I can also fakie longer on a cassette than a coaster (pedal pressure helps a whole lot.)

But 99% of the time I'm running a coaster. Riding coasters has "fixed" my riding a whole lot. I used to pedal pressure EVERYTHING. I would crank into my bunnyhops, take multiple half cranks instead of full cranks, the whole 9 yards. Riding freecoaster has forced me to ride so much smoother, aswell as forcing me to dial in balance tricks (manuals, tire taps, etc.) since I couldn't depend on pedal pressure anymore.

But I ride 90% street and ride fakie more than I ride forwards haha (and have been this way since my cassette days.) While I can do all the same tricks on a cassette, my fakie lines look so much smoother & feel better on a coaster.

Also, I LOOVEE the sound of tires roasting around a bowl without the sound of a cassette blocking the noise.
Edit; I'll also add that I learned how to pump around a bowl much more efficiently on a coaster. Gotta find new ways to go fast when you can't put a quick bitch-crank in.

I would 100% recommend, if you haven't rode a coaster, that you ride one for at least a month or so. Other than opening up doors for new/more technical tricks, it can also teach you a ton about excessive pedal pressuring, balance tricks, etc. It's definitely an awesome learning experience even for strict cassette riders. Besides, what's wrong with being skilled at riding both?

As soon as I'm healed up & can work on my next edit, I'm gonna make sure to fill it with lots of coaster AND cassette clips.

p1p1092 wrote:

I think a lot of the reason some people are still on cassettes or coasters when they'd be better off on the other, is the whole mindset in BMX of "I'm way more hardcore than everyone else by riding a bike that doesn't fit me or suit my riding style" or "I'm the coolest kid here because I have the trendiest parts that don't actually work for my style or I can't use properly". You see it with 6'4 old guys still running their 20.5" frame and 7.5" bars from way back in the day or the 4' 10-year-olds with 21.5" frames and 11" bars. Everyone's so stuck in the mindset of "X is better/more hardcore so I should have my bike like that". Imagine what people could do, how fast they'd learn, how much longer they'd be able to ride for and overall, how much more enjoyable riding would be for them, if they had their bike set up right for them instead of just going with the current trend or what's more considered to be more "hardcore"...

Just some observations I've made having traveled around a lot and seen the same thing everywhere I've been...

That's true.

I think everyone should try everything for at least a little while. I've rode everything from cassette and brakeless to a freecoaster with both brakes & 4 pegs, and everything inbetween. Hell, I'd ride a coaster brake for a while if I could find a good one.

Brake tricks taught me a bunch of cool brakeless tricks.

Pegs gave me a reason to learn a bunch of pegless tricks.

Freecoaster taught me bike control and a bunch of cool fakie tricks (that I can also do on a cassettegrin )

Sometimes it's okay to go out of your comfort zone for a little while to learn new stuff. You can always switch it back up later on.

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12/23/2017 3:25 PM

ggallin422 wrote:

I have no desire to ever own a freecoaster. I'm happy with my cassettes. Right now I have an old Odyssey hazard v2, and a kink incite, which after a long break in feels great now. Hoping the incite hold up for a few more years.

HondaCRFRacer wrote:

Yep same. No desire to own a coaster either... by the way my buddy got your wheel a bit ago (which you'd know that of course) and is super stoked on it! He's super thankful that you were quick and easy to deal with!

Glad someone is getting some use out of it. Thanks man.

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12/23/2017 3:32 PM

ggallin422 wrote:

I have no desire to ever own a freecoaster. I'm happy with my cassettes. Right now I have an old Odyssey hazard v2, and a kink incite, which after a long break in feels great now. Hoping the incite hold up for a few more years.

HondaCRFRacer wrote:

Yep same. No desire to own a coaster either... by the way my buddy got your wheel a bit ago (which you'd know that of course) and is super stoked on it! He's super thankful that you were quick and easy to deal with!

ggallin422 wrote:

Glad someone is getting some use out of it. Thanks man.

Yeah no problem! If I'm ever on a budget looking for a part I'll definatly hit you up! You always seem to have everything lolgrin

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12/24/2017 3:51 AM

HondaCRFRacer wrote:

Yep same. No desire to own a coaster either... by the way my buddy got your wheel a bit ago (which you'd know that of course) and is super stoked on it! He's super thankful that you were quick and easy to deal with!

ggallin422 wrote:

Glad someone is getting some use out of it. Thanks man.

HondaCRFRacer wrote:

Yeah no problem! If I'm ever on a budget looking for a part I'll definatly hit you up! You always seem to have everything lolgrin

Yeah I always have extra parts laying around. Have a good Christmas dude.

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12/24/2017 6:52 AM

ggallin422 wrote:

Yeah I always have extra parts laying around. Have a good Christmas dude.

Same to you my friend!

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