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12/26/2015 6:37 PM

Just kidding.

I just want to know why everyone is not buying ODY parts now just because sexton and hawk are off the team.

If you are one of those people, please just type your age. That'll say it all.

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12/26/2015 7:01 PM

Because they're fucking idiots.

I don't see why someone would dumb down their bike just because Odyssey kicked them off. I like Chase Hawk a lot, I have his signature stem and love Odyssey/Sunday, and the thought of getting rid of all my Odyssey parts never once crossed my mind. That's just idiotic.

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12/26/2015 7:11 PM

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Because they're fucking idiots.

I don't see why someone would dumb down their bike just because Odyssey kicked them off. I like Chase Hawk a lot, I have his signature stem and love Odyssey/Sunday, and the thought of getting rid of all my Odyssey parts never once crossed my mind. That's just idiotic.

same here. even still their parts are way too good to just "get rid of"

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12/26/2015 8:58 PM

I'm not "buying" their parts, because I don't need to....the parts I already bought from them are still going strong! Their $hit freakin lasts forever! Probably be awhile before I need to replace any of my old odyssey parts with....(guess what) new odyssey parts.

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12/26/2015 9:02 PM

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12/27/2015 5:33 AM

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Because they're fucking idiots.

I don't see why someone would dumb down their bike just because Odyssey kicked them off. I like Chase Hawk a lot, I have his signature stem and love Odyssey/Sunday, and the thought of getting rid of all my Odyssey parts never once crossed my mind. That's just idiotic.

Thanks. The reason I will no longer ride Odyssey parts is simple. I enjoy supporting brands that support BMX on all levels. With Hawk and Sexton off the team and the public explanation all parties gave for the reason, it's simple to see that Odyssey isn't in it for the sport anymore. They're about the foofoo shit now. Money, instagram and youtube numbers over dedication and good times.

This is the same thing that happened with Stranger, squad was down for each other, Rich thought it was a good idea to bring in a larger fanbase (teenies) through LZ's connections and basically drove the guys with heart out. Those guys weren't in it for the money. Odyssey is doing the same thing only they're the ones removing people from the squad.

That being said, the removal of Chase and Sexton from the team on a personal level doesn't bother me, it just shows what the company's about. Both guys have already simply stated that Odyssey is full of shit regarding the reasons they were let go.

The only party that's going to lose out is Odyssey in the long run. Just like Hirsch forced the soul out of Stranger, Odyssey is forcing the soul out of their company. None of it really matters, I just don't have interest in supporting a company like that.

That's why I just bought a new pair of S&M Pitchforks. Am I going to take off my Odyssey brake set and light it on fire? No probably not, but it really wouldn't bother me if someone did. They're just not getting anymore of my money is all.

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12/27/2015 7:18 AM

^^ Wrong. Odyssey truly didn't seem like it was for the money and the 'LZ' effect. They havent even replaced Hawk or Sexton yet so why is everyone immediately saying they did it to get more 'YouTube/youth inviting' riders?

Maybe they'll get some OG riders or true staple riders to fill in those spots. Or maybe they will get some young teens that are trending right now. We don't know yet. So there's no reason to not support Odyssey anymore right now.

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12/27/2015 7:59 AM

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^^ Wrong. Odyssey truly didn't seem like it was for the money and the 'LZ' effect. They havent even replaced Hawk or Sexton yet so why is everyone immediately saying they did it to get more 'YouTube/youth inviting' riders?

Maybe they'll get some OG riders or true staple riders to fill in those spots. Or maybe they will get some young teens that are trending right now. We don't know yet. So there's no reason to not support Odyssey anymore right now.

Odyssey wasn't willing to accept that these guys had other responsibilities and engagements with life (god forbid) and other sponsors. These guys had a hand in helping make Odyssey what it is and how popular it is, for them to call them out online for being lazy and avoiding their crew while they're busy with other projects is shitty. That's some grade school shit.

You don't need a real reason to not support Odyssey. Just like you don't need a real reason not to support S&M, Cult or Bonedeth. You're either down or you're not, simple as that.

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12/27/2015 10:28 AM

Nobody knows the real reason behind all this bs really..you can't believe somebody just because of who they are and that works on both sides..ody did what they did for their own reasons and the riders responded to it on a defensive stance to protect their image which is understandable. Both sides said what they said and left it alone..why is everyone else still going on about it?? Who cares who's on what team?? Just cuz ody let go two og riders doesn't mean they're not down for BMX still..that's crazy! They been in the game 30 yrs! That's a lot longer than most ppl riding BMX bikes have been alive! You can buy whatever you want but to not buy from a brand that makes some of the best parts in the game just because they moved these guys out is silly..imo

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12/27/2015 11:45 AM

Yes, 30 years, half of which was putting out junk product that nobody was buying.

Look, I get it, shit happens. I don't care that the guys were let go from that team. I just don't agree with the way they handled it. Neither guy got defensive, they just said the reasons provided by odyssey were bullshit and they stopped there.

There's one side's take on events, the others and then the truth. We're never going to know the truth. Frankly I don't really care. I get bored at work and I come on here to stir the pot once in a while. Much fun.

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12/27/2015 12:36 PM

These things happen. Hawk was putting no where as much effort in with odyssey as he was his other sponsors. If odyssey feel they don't fit the team, who are we to argue against that? I didn't see anyone chatting shit about primo when they dropped Brian foster.
People get dropped or leave sponsors all the time. Odyssey won't lose anything from it in my opinion, their products speak for themselves.

In regards to the above post. Odyssey have always been one of the best parts companies out there. For every generation I could name parts that everyone wanted.

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12/27/2015 2:49 PM

Decided what to spend your money on by what riders ride it , man you shoulda quit riding when Jay miron quit

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12/27/2015 3:02 PM

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Decided what to spend your money on by what riders ride it , man you shoulda quit riding when Jay miron quit

Haha Miron was the man

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12/27/2015 4:53 PM
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People care way too much about this kind of shit, it boggles my mind that people will actually stop riding their parts & stop supporting them just because of this when

A) That's completely idiotic to get rid of some of the best parts in bmx just because of that

B ) We don't know the whole story. Odyssey posted what they did on Instagram and Chase & Sean both said it was bullshit, but do we know that for a FACT? No. There's 3 sides to every story: Odyssey's story, Chase & Sean's story, and the truth. We don't know what happened for fact, for all we know they weren't putting in effort. For all we know, they were. To jump to conclusions and listen to hearsay like that is stupid.


Do what you want but all you're doing is dumbing your bike down.

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12/27/2015 5:00 PM

sundaybmxRR wrote:

People care way too much about this kind of shit, it boggles my mind that people will actually stop riding their parts & stop supporting them just because of this when

A) That's completely idiotic to get rid of some of the best parts in bmx just because of that

B ) We don't know the whole story. Odyssey posted what they did on Instagram and Chase & Sean both said it was bullshit, but do we know that for a FACT? No. There's 3 sides to every story: Odyssey's story, Chase & Sean's story, and the truth. We don't know what happened for fact, for all we know they weren't putting in effort. For all we know, they were. To jump to conclusions and listen to hearsay like that is stupid.


Do what you want but all you're doing is dumbing your bike down.

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12/27/2015 5:19 PM

sundaybmxRR wrote:

People care way too much about this kind of shit, it boggles my mind that people will actually stop riding their parts & stop supporting them just because of this when

A) That's completely idiotic to get rid of some of the best parts in bmx just because of that

B ) We don't know the whole story. Odyssey posted what they did on Instagram and Chase & Sean both said it was bullshit, but do we know that for a FACT? No. There's 3 sides to every story: Odyssey's story, Chase & Sean's story, and the truth. We don't know what happened for fact, for all we know they weren't putting in effort. For all we know, they were. To jump to conclusions and listen to hearsay like that is stupid.


Do what you want but all you're doing is dumbing your bike down.

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How old are you pegless? 15?

Sunday, I literally said the same thing about the hawk and sexton bullshit a couple posts above yours.

As far as the parts go I could take them or leave them. To be honest, in the 20 years that I've been on and off a bike I've ridden very few odyssey parts. Gyro and other brake stuff, a set of r25 forks, and an original hazard freewheel hub to a hazard light. That's it. I currently have a cheap springfield brake set up on my bike now. Don't have plans to remove them, like you already said, that would be pretty dumb.

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12/28/2015 11:39 AM

The details I saw stated that the guys weren't doing anything other than working for their other sponsors and collecting paychecks.

After all, these companies are a BUSINESS, and their main goal is TO KEEP AFLOAT/MAKE MONEY

If you went to your job and didn't do anything, you would be let go too. The riders are a team, yes, but they are also EMPLOYEES. Their job tasks are different from yours, but their employment is likely something that can be terminated whenever Odyssey sees fit, OR the end of a contract, depending on how it was laid out.

I am sick and tired of the "cliques" that this sport has recently developed. We should embrace the fact that we all ride a little kids bike, and not worry about the small details. When you take riding in its most basic form, we are all the same.

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dave lawrence wrote:

The details I saw stated that the guys weren't doing anything other than working for their other sponsors and collecting paychecks.

After all, these companies are a BUSINESS, and their main goal is TO KEEP AFLOAT/MAKE MONEY

If you went to your job and didn't do anything, you would be let go too. The riders are a team, yes, but they are also EMPLOYEES. Their job tasks are different from yours, but their employment is likely something that can be terminated whenever Odyssey sees fit, OR the end of a contract, depending on how it was laid out.

I've been thinking about it similar to this too. It's their JOB to put stuff out for Odyssey. If you're not involved with your job, you don't deserve that job.

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12/28/2015 12:15 PM
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Plus if I need parts and Odyssey parts are in my budget, I will buy them/consider them with zero regard to who is on their team.

I am sick and tired of the "cliques" that this sport has recently developed. We should embrace the fact that we all ride a little kids bike, and not worry about the small details. When you take riding in its most basic form, we are all the same.

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We sold several Sexton freecoasters and at least a dozen Hawk tires today. Just sayin'

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Good. Not everyone is being silly about it.

I swear some BMXers are like Nascar fans, their favorite riders switch teams and their tattoos and such are useless, and then they swap brands for ONLY that reason.

I am sick and tired of the "cliques" that this sport has recently developed. We should embrace the fact that we all ride a little kids bike, and not worry about the small details. When you take riding in its most basic form, we are all the same.

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12/29/2015 7:59 AM

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Yes, 30 years, half of which was putting out junk product that nobody was buying.

Look, I get it, shit happens. I don't care that the guys were let go from that team. I just don't agree with the way they handled it. Neither guy got defensive, they just said the reasons provided by odyssey were bullshit and they stopped there.

There's one side's take on events, the others and then the truth. We're never going to know the truth. Frankly I don't really care. I get bored at work and I come on here to stir the pot once in a while. Much fun.

Lol i remember when oddessy was the shitty aftermarket brand you didn't want to buy, but had too because you were broke