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11/16/2017 4:26 PM

What do you think about long vs short top tubes

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11/16/2017 4:33 PM

A long top tube is longer than a short top tube. A short top tube is shorter than a long top tube. Taller riders usually prefer a longer top tube. Shorter riders usually prefer a shorter top tube.

Anyone else want to chime in? Did I miss anything?

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11/16/2017 4:36 PM

Mishinn_Control wrote:

A long top tube is longer than a short top tube. A short top tube is shorter than a long top tube. Taller riders usually prefer a longer top tube. Shorter riders usually prefer a shorter top tube.

Anyone else want to chime in? Did I miss anything?

Haha lol pretty much this But usually a shorter top tube spins quicker and longer toptubes spin a bit slower... but a longer top tube is more comfortable. Bit really it's all personal preference...

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11/16/2017 4:46 PM

Shorter is easier to bunny hop. I just bought a Sunday first wave in 20.5. I've been riding 21" for a while, so I'm excited for the change.

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11/17/2017 3:57 AM

It is definitly personal preference. I would try different ones. I like short for certain things and long for certain things. I am 6'2" and I am currently riding a 20.5. I switch around.

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11/17/2017 4:05 AM

ggallin422 wrote:

Shorter is easier to bunny hop. I just bought a Sunday first wave in 20.5. I've been riding 21" for a while, so I'm excited for the change.

It is also harder to go high, you trade height for pop, chainstays kind of work the same.

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11/17/2017 4:22 AM

Over 21, otherwise it feels like a child's bike

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11/17/2017 6:01 AM

short top tubes are really fun. I'm riding 19.5 and love it.

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11/17/2017 6:52 AM

Where did you find a 19.5 Top tube

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11/17/2017 10:39 AM

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11/18/2017 9:38 AM

ggallin422 wrote:

Shorter is easier to bunny hop. I just bought a Sunday first wave in 20.5. I've been riding 21" for a while, so I'm excited for the change.

Francky wrote:

It is also harder to go high, you trade height for pop, chainstays kind of work the same.

I don't actually believe that having a shorter frame makes your hops lower. If you see the way trials riders hop it's from a vertical point. So instead of the way most people hop which is just pull and tuck they pull then jump then tuck. I can bunny hop about 2-3 feet the normal way but I want to try out this trails way now that I have seen it.
I do believe that a shorter cs and longer tt will help with leverage though.

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11/18/2017 10:09 AM

ggallin422 wrote:

Shorter is easier to bunny hop. I just bought a Sunday first wave in 20.5. I've been riding 21" for a while, so I'm excited for the change.

Francky wrote:

It is also harder to go high, you trade height for pop, chainstays kind of work the same.

Edman123 wrote:

I don't actually believe that having a shorter frame makes your hops lower. If you see the way trials riders hop it's from a vertical point. So instead of the way most people hop which is just pull and tuck they pull then jump then tuck. I can bunny hop about 2-3 feet the normal way but I want to try out this trails way now that I have seen it.
I do believe that a shorter cs and longer tt will help with leverage though.

If you're blaming your inability to hop, on some part of your bike, you're not trying nearly hard enough and/or need to go to the gym or you're doing it wrong. People have managed to hop onto and over things on all kinds of setups since BMX started just by figuring out the right technique for the setup they had and putting some effort in. A different setup won't make you hop higher but it can suit your technique better.

Trials techniques are far from easy, good luck .

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11/18/2017 10:35 AM
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Francky wrote:

It is also harder to go high, you trade height for pop, chainstays kind of work the same.

Edman123 wrote:

I don't actually believe that having a shorter frame makes your hops lower. If you see the way trials riders hop it's from a vertical point. So instead of the way most people hop which is just pull and tuck they pull then jump then tuck. I can bunny hop about 2-3 feet the normal way but I want to try out this trails way now that I have seen it.
I do believe that a shorter cs and longer tt will help with leverage though.

p1p1092 wrote:

If you're blaming your inability to hop, on some part of your bike, you're not trying nearly hard enough and/or need to go to the gym or you're doing it wrong. People have managed to hop onto and over things on all kinds of setups since BMX started just by figuring out the right technique for the setup they had and putting some effort in. A different setup won't make you hop higher but it can suit your technique better.

Trials techniques are far from easy, good luck .

That's it though I'm not blaming it on my bike. I was pointing out that by using different techniques you could hop higher. I believe that the people who I quoted were saying that having a longer frame makes your max hop higher. I can understand where they are coming from but it just made me think more about the trials bunnyhop technique.

Edit: after re reading my response I think I may not have made it clear that I think having a longer front end and a shorter back end may make high hops easier but they are not needed. They just may make it easier to do the same thing.