I love both of the frames specs and the brands are solid. I just can't pick one, I've bin trying to decide for 3 days now. I love the short ends on both and the steep head tubes and the stand over heights. I just can't pick they both have amazing reviews too. Have any of you had one of these frames? Was their anything bad about them? I'm going to be running pegs do you think that would be a problem because of the short ends? Btw I ride street and I'm not hard on frames.