Over tightened stem bolt and snapped starnut

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8/1/2015 5:39 PM

What do I do lool, do I just buy another star nut or stem bolt how do I take this offPhoto

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8/1/2015 5:52 PM

hahahaha thats because those are the worst idea ever to have happened to forks since the invention of forks.

that design is like saying, "well we could eat out at this really good chinese restaurant, but we are going to eat rocks in the backyard instead."

but really, just buy new forks. or do the ghetto way of running it until you get new ones. Another thing you can do is take a big long axle piece from your hardware store that's longer than the steerer, but not wayyy longer and get some big ass washers and nuts and tighten it like that as a TEMPORARY fix. New forks are ideal though, once you can do that of course. I had to do that way back and it SUCKS but works. haha

Buy the Odyssey R32 or R25s

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8/1/2015 5:59 PM

or if you dont want to shell out 135 bucks, just go to a bike shop and ask em to shove another starnut in their, and then take the forks over to a body shop and ask if they cant put 2 or 3 tack welds on it... would probably only cost you 20 bucks... but yeah a fork upgrade would be better in the long run...

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8/1/2015 6:04 PM

MaximusBikes wrote:

hahahaha thats because those are the worst idea ever to have happened to forks since the invention of forks.

that design is like saying, "well we could eat out at this really good chinese restaurant, but we are going to eat rocks in the backyard instead."

but really, just buy new forks. or do the ghetto way of running it until you get new ones. Another thing you can do is take a big long axle piece from your hardware store that's longer than the steerer, but not wayyy longer and get some big ass washers and nuts and tighten it like that as a TEMPORARY fix. New forks are ideal though, once you can do that of course. I had to do that way back and it SUCKS but works. haha

Buy the Odyssey R32 or R25s

Couldnt i reinstall a star nut in my forks and then just get a cap and bolt or something like that ? :D

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8/1/2015 6:05 PM

dkTechEthan wrote:

or if you dont want to shell out 135 bucks, just go to a bike shop and ask em to shove another starnut in their, and then take the forks over to a body shop and ask if they cant put 2 or 3 tack welds on it... would probably only cost you 20 bucks... but yeah a fork upgrade would be better in the long run...

wooow, all i was trying was to stop my bars from wobbling :D

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8/1/2015 6:12 PM

dkTechEthan wrote:

or if you dont want to shell out 135 bucks, just go to a bike shop and ask em to shove another starnut in their, and then take the forks over to a body shop and ask if they cant put 2 or 3 tack welds on it... would probably only cost you 20 bucks... but yeah a fork upgrade would be better in the long run...

CULT_BMX wrote:

wooow, all i was trying was to stop my bars from wobbling :D

try loosening the pinch bolts on the stem before tightening the compression bolt(star nut bolt) and work the forks as you tighten it slowly, it should be in that sweet spot between spinnable but not slacked, i actually run my fork with a little more compression on my headset then i really need because i don't want any flex, and bearings will wear in some as you ride. so there's no real noticeable difference. aside from a little slower bar rotation, but meh throw harder.

yeah just go to a bike shop then get somebody to weld it. maybe give the guy 10 bucks for some beer money as a thanks. and bikeshop eh idk may charge you 10 bucks or 20 bucks depends. but that would be the right way to repair it and the welds will stop the starnut from pulling out again.

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8/1/2015 6:13 PM

Goodness! I had some dk forks with the starnut. They were so light, like 25 oz. That thing is such a dumb idea though so I just sold them.

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8/1/2015 6:15 PM

Four wrote:

Goodness! I had some dk forks with the starnut. They were so light, like 25 oz. That thing is such a dumb idea though so I just sold them.

So only old style forks have the star nut?

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8/1/2015 6:18 PM
Edited Date/Time: 8/1/2015 6:18 PM

Four wrote:

Goodness! I had some dk forks with the starnut. They were so light, like 25 oz. That thing is such a dumb idea though so I just sold them.

CULT_BMX wrote:

So only old style forks have the star nut?

older forks from the late 80's early 90's and the low end department store stuff that uses the tiny hex bolts like that yeah. i'm surprised to see this on your cult... and people talk shit about dk? my stock forks had a better bolt than that and were welded... and my bike is a dk cleaveland i got from walmart....

@FOUR ^

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8/1/2015 6:23 PM

CULT_BMX wrote:

So only old style forks have the star nut?

I think some race forks may still use them too.

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8/1/2015 6:25 PM

dkTechEthan wrote:

older forks from the late 80's early 90's and the low end department store stuff that uses the tiny hex bolts like that yeah. i'm surprised to see this on your cult... and people talk shit about dk? my stock forks had a better bolt than that and were welded... and my bike is a dk cleaveland i got from walmart....

@FOUR ^

Interesting. Mine were the Dk RTs. I think the first ones. They were ridiculously light, if they didn't have that stupid bolt I would have kept them for more than a day.

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8/1/2015 6:27 PM

Four wrote:

Goodness! I had some dk forks with the starnut. They were so light, like 25 oz. That thing is such a dumb idea though so I just sold them.

CULT_BMX wrote:

So only old style forks have the star nut?

dkTechEthan wrote:

older forks from the late 80's early 90's and the low end department store stuff that uses the tiny hex bolts like that yeah. i'm surprised to see this on your cult... and people talk shit about dk? my stock forks had a better bolt than that and were welded... and my bike is a dk cleaveland i got from walmart....

@FOUR ^

Oh snap, you think i should just get new forks? I dont wanna spend more than $100

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8/1/2015 6:31 PM

CULT_BMX wrote:

So only old style forks have the star nut?

dkTechEthan wrote:

older forks from the late 80's early 90's and the low end department store stuff that uses the tiny hex bolts like that yeah. i'm surprised to see this on your cult... and people talk shit about dk? my stock forks had a better bolt than that and were welded... and my bike is a dk cleaveland i got from walmart....

@FOUR ^

CULT_BMX wrote:

Oh snap, you think i should just get new forks? I dont wanna spend more than $100

nah think a bike shop will be able to fix ya up for less then 30 bucks especially if you can get somebody to just pop a spotweld on the starnut you'll probably never have any problems with it again...

or ya know jump over tot he buy sell trade section of the forums and snag some forks i got mine for 45

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8/1/2015 6:35 PM

CULT_BMX wrote:

Oh snap, you think i should just get new forks? I dont wanna spend more than $100

Buy some solid used forks, ditch these haha.

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8/1/2015 6:37 PM

dkTechEthan wrote:

older forks from the late 80's early 90's and the low end department store stuff that uses the tiny hex bolts like that yeah. i'm surprised to see this on your cult... and people talk shit about dk? my stock forks had a better bolt than that and were welded... and my bike is a dk cleaveland i got from walmart....

@FOUR ^

CULT_BMX wrote:

Oh snap, you think i should just get new forks? I dont wanna spend more than $100

dkTechEthan wrote:

nah think a bike shop will be able to fix ya up for less then 30 bucks especially if you can get somebody to just pop a spotweld on the starnut you'll probably never have any problems with it again...

or ya know jump over tot he buy sell trade section of the forums and snag some forks i got mine for 45

I feel like getting new forks would be better in the long run : what about these http://www.vitalbmx.com/forums/BMX-Stuff-For-Sale,17/Brzrhd-sprocket-V4-0,1303736

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8/1/2015 6:37 PM

Four wrote:

Buy some solid used forks, ditch these haha.

http://www.vitalbmx.com/forums/BMX-Stuff-For-Sale,17/Brzrhd-sprocket-V4-0,1303736 ???

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8/1/2015 6:40 PM

CULT_BMX wrote:

Oh snap, you think i should just get new forks? I dont wanna spend more than $100

dkTechEthan wrote:

nah think a bike shop will be able to fix ya up for less then 30 bucks especially if you can get somebody to just pop a spotweld on the starnut you'll probably never have any problems with it again...

or ya know jump over tot he buy sell trade section of the forums and snag some forks i got mine for 45

CULT_BMX wrote:

I feel like getting new forks would be better in the long run : what about these http://www.vitalbmx.com/forums/BMX-Stuff-For-Sale,17/Brzrhd-sprocket-V4-0,1303736

id ask for pictures of the inside of the forks, make sure they dont use the old starnut style like your current forks do.

Premium, Odyssey, MacNeil, all make pretty good forks. and Subrosa Pandora forks, specifically the pandora forks
oh and S&M makes good stuff too

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8/1/2015 6:47 PM

dkTechEthan wrote:

id ask for pictures of the inside of the forks, make sure they dont use the old starnut style like your current forks do.

Premium, Odyssey, MacNeil, all make pretty good forks. and Subrosa Pandora forks, specifically the pandora forks
oh and S&M makes good stuff too

alright ty , do i have to worry about them fitting or do all forks fit all frames ?

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8/1/2015 6:52 PM

CULT_BMX wrote:

I feel like getting new forks would be better in the long run : what about these http://www.vitalbmx.com/forums/BMX-Stuff-For-Sale,17/Brzrhd-sprocket-V4-0,1303736

dkTechEthan wrote:

id ask for pictures of the inside of the forks, make sure they dont use the old starnut style like your current forks do.

Premium, Odyssey, MacNeil, all make pretty good forks. and Subrosa Pandora forks, specifically the pandora forks
oh and S&M makes good stuff too

CULT_BMX wrote:

alright ty , do i have to worry about them fitting or do all forks fit all frames ?

just make sure its an 1-1/8th threadless steer tube fork, and you should be fine. if your headtube uses integrated bearings, make sure its integrated. if you get older forks you may need to get a race pressed on at a shop but they're super cheap.

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8/1/2015 8:47 PM

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8/1/2015 9:40 PM

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8/1/2015 9:45 PM

dkTechEthan wrote:

or if you dont want to shell out 135 bucks, just go to a bike shop and ask em to shove another starnut in their, and then take the forks over to a body shop and ask if they cant put 2 or 3 tack welds on it... would probably only cost you 20 bucks... but yeah a fork upgrade would be better in the long run...

mountain bike forks use star nuts instead of the thread in top cap

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8/1/2015 9:49 PM

dkTechEthan wrote:

or if you dont want to shell out 135 bucks, just go to a bike shop and ask em to shove another starnut in their, and then take the forks over to a body shop and ask if they cant put 2 or 3 tack welds on it... would probably only cost you 20 bucks... but yeah a fork upgrade would be better in the long run...

Coopers25 wrote:

mountain bike forks use star nuts instead of the thread in top cap

this is very true too. long as their welded their just fine.

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8/2/2015 2:18 PM

I'll sell you a fork. It's the internally threaded kind, not the star nut shit. I'll let it go for 40. Just pay separate shipping.Photo

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8/3/2015 3:42 AM
Edited Date/Time: 8/3/2015 3:43 AM

dkTechEthan wrote:

try loosening the pinch bolts on the stem before tightening the compression bolt(star nut bolt) and work the forks as you tighten it slowly, it should be in that sweet spot between spinnable but not slacked, i actually run my fork with a little more compression on my headset then i really need because i don't want any flex, and bearings will wear in some as you ride. so there's no real noticeable difference. aside from a little slower bar rotation, but meh throw harder.

yeah just go to a bike shop then get somebody to weld it. maybe give the guy 10 bucks for some beer money as a thanks. and bikeshop eh idk may charge you 10 bucks or 20 bucks depends. but that would be the right way to repair it and the welds will stop the starnut from pulling out again.

Lol Even tho my Odyssey forks have the huge bolt, I usually just take the pinch bolts out and barely tap a flathead screwdriver into the pinch. The stem will slide down like butter and it makes tightening the compression bolt a breeze. Can't stress the tap part enough tho. Just taaaap it in..tap taparoo grin

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8/3/2015 8:39 AM

MaximusBikes wrote:

hahahaha thats because those are the worst idea ever to have happened to forks since the invention of forks.

that design is like saying, "well we could eat out at this really good chinese restaurant, but we are going to eat rocks in the backyard instead."

but really, just buy new forks. or do the ghetto way of running it until you get new ones. Another thing you can do is take a big long axle piece from your hardware store that's longer than the steerer, but not wayyy longer and get some big ass washers and nuts and tighten it like that as a TEMPORARY fix. New forks are ideal though, once you can do that of course. I had to do that way back and it SUCKS but works. haha

Buy the Odyssey R32 or R25s

I did this as a permanent fix, headset NEVER came loose.

That was also in 2001.

Honestly OP, save some cash and replace your fork. Also when tightening that bolt, MAKE SURE YOUR STEM PINCH BOLTS (on the side of the stem) are loose first.

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8/4/2015 7:37 AM

Shortdude wrote:

I'll sell you a fork. It's the internally threaded kind, not the star nut shit. I'll let it go for 40. Just pay separate shipping.Photo

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What fork is that? And it there any problems with them?

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8/4/2015 7:53 AM

CULT_BMX wrote:

What fork is that? And it there any problems with them?

It's an Eastern Night Prowler fork. I've never had any problems with it, in fact it's probably one of the best I've had. It's 100% heat-treated chromoly too. I just don't need it anymore because I got a new one. And I'm trying to save up enough money to get new cranks.

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8/5/2015 11:53 PM

Shortdude wrote:

It's an Eastern Night Prowler fork. I've never had any problems with it, in fact it's probably one of the best I've had. It's 100% heat-treated chromoly too. I just don't need it anymore because I got a new one. And I'm trying to save up enough money to get new cranks.

Yo I posted my number on it profile wall , txt me if u r still selling it

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