Pet Peeve

my internetz broke. dam u @vitalbmx. such bad compenny

Yep i see this all the time, theres a local kid here that always does pedal grinds and then bitches about how his peals wear out and then he goes on bitching abuthow the company sucks now

my pet peeve is when people bitch about how they arent sponsored but they ride super sketchy and dont look like they are comfortable withe the trick
i also hate when people say a part sucks but they have never actually owned or ridden it

1) I hate super techy riding like Alex Kennedy, I'm sure he's a nice guy but I hate his riding style, too slow and too many tricks at once (180 feeble,backwards nose wheelie to smith)

2) When bars are one sale on the internet (with all the specs you like) in fucking matte red or glossy orange. GTFO

3) Long manuals in an edit clip (takes up 10 seconds) it's so boring.

4) Kids that have bikes that are too big for them (5'0" and riding a 20" bike)

5) Kids in the skatepark running up and down the ramps

6) Not being able to ride

K_A_N_E_ wrote:

1) I hate super techy riding like Alex Kennedy, I'm sure he's a nice guy but I hate his riding style, too slow and too many ...more

K_A_N_E_ wrote:

1) I hate super techy riding like Alex Kennedy, I'm sure he's a nice guy but I hate his riding style, too slow and too many tricks at once (180 feeble,backwards nose wheelie to smith)

2) When bars are one sale on the internet (with all the specs you like) in fucking matte red or glossy orange. GTFO

3) Long manuals in an edit clip (takes up 10 seconds) it's so boring.

4) Kids that have bikes that are too big for them (5'0" and riding a 20" bike)

5) Kids in the skatepark running up and down the ramps

6) Not being able to ride

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they put shit on sale that doesnt sell, less people buy shit colors so stop complaining
also 5 foot is not too short for a 20"

aka 90% of the kids in the the come up bmx group on facebook.

Just got on, and saw some kid snapped his Odyssey Twombolt cranks and now apparently "Odyssey is shit" just because of that

sundaybmxRR wrote:

aka 90% of the kids in the the come up bmx group on facebook.

Just got on, and saw some kid snapped his Odyssey Twombolt ...more

sundaybmxRR wrote:

aka 90% of the kids in the the come up bmx group on facebook.

Just got on, and saw some kid snapped his Odyssey Twombolt cranks and now apparently "Odyssey is shit" just because of that

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I saw that and wanted to smack him straight up the head.

On another note, I wear gloves and ride every day and my gum supersoft odi grips wore out in a month. Odi sucks.

1.Omg kids at skateparks
where are the parents, shout out to the playground across the street.

2. Girlfreinds at skateparks piss me off too.
half the time they are on their phone sitting on a ramp in the way, she dosen't want to watch you skate to begin with.

3. Anyone who smokes in skateparks/ around kids
4. ppl who show up to trail spots and pedal over rollers, or put their foot down on the side of a jump and wash it out.
kid, probably 13, said "how do you wreck a dirt jump" (was the one who did it)
5. ppl who use excuses to not ride. "I got hurt, now I can't backflip" - rides a mike spinner bike from walmart

+ fucking faggots who can't ride worth a shit, have a 1,200 dollar custom and laugh at you when you fall. gth
bitch snakes people too
he is like 23 -_-

MidWestBMX wrote:

1.Omg kids at skateparks
where are the parents, shout out to the playground across the street.

2. Girlfreinds at skateparks ...more

MidWestBMX wrote:

1.Omg kids at skateparks
where are the parents, shout out to the playground across the street.

2. Girlfreinds at skateparks piss me off too.
half the time they are on their phone sitting on a ramp in the way, she dosen't want to watch you skate to begin with.

3. Anyone who smokes in skateparks/ around kids
4. ppl who show up to trail spots and pedal over rollers, or put their foot down on the side of a jump and wash it out.
kid, probably 13, said "how do you wreck a dirt jump" (was the one who did it)
5. ppl who use excuses to not ride. "I got hurt, now I can't backflip" - rides a mike spinner bike from walmart

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Where is number 2?

1; People who talk shit on other types of bmx (usually street riders about park guys)
2; oilslick-camo-rasta crap, anything that is associated with swag needs to be destroyed
3; Odyssey & sunday fanboys- sure the parts are decent but there is other stuff out there and just because a part has lifetime warranty does not mean its the only decent option
4; people who bitch about any rider who doesn't just flow; there are other aspects to bmx then just style and without the guys pushing it the 'steeze' tricks wouldn't even exist
5; weed & TCU- this shit doesn't need to be associated with bmx, i don't give a fuck if people choose to do it but putting it in edits little kids see is not cool

JoeDavidson wrote:

1; People who talk shit on other types of bmx (usually street riders about park guys)
2; oilslick-camo-rasta crap, anything ...more

JoeDavidson wrote:

1; People who talk shit on other types of bmx (usually street riders about park guys)
2; oilslick-camo-rasta crap, anything that is associated with swag needs to be destroyed
3; Odyssey & sunday fanboys- sure the parts are decent but there is other stuff out there and just because a part has lifetime warranty does not mean its the only decent option
4; people who bitch about any rider who doesn't just flow; there are other aspects to bmx then just style and without the guys pushing it the 'steeze' tricks wouldn't even exist
5; weed & TCU- this shit doesn't need to be associated with bmx, i don't give a fuck if people choose to do it but putting it in edits little kids see is not cool

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Flame war in 3, 2, 1..........

JoeDavidson wrote:

1; People who talk shit on other types of bmx (usually street riders about park guys)
2; oilslick-camo-rasta crap, anything ...more

JoeDavidson wrote:

1; People who talk shit on other types of bmx (usually street riders about park guys)
2; oilslick-camo-rasta crap, anything that is associated with swag needs to be destroyed
3; Odyssey & sunday fanboys- sure the parts are decent but there is other stuff out there and just because a part has lifetime warranty does not mean its the only decent option
4; people who bitch about any rider who doesn't just flow; there are other aspects to bmx then just style and without the guys pushing it the 'steeze' tricks wouldn't even exist
5; weed & TCU- this shit doesn't need to be associated with bmx, i don't give a fuck if people choose to do it but putting it in edits little kids see is not cool

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Are you aware that trends are what brings the majority of money into bmx?

tomdon wrote:

Are you aware that trends are what brings the majority of money into bmx?

tomdon wrote:

Are you aware that trends are what brings the majority of money into bmx?

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I very much doubt that. I'd say bmx growing due to greater exposure from big events and large sponsors pushing web edits and also from the growth of social media sites exposing a larger audience to the sport. The trends do bring some money in but people would still have to buy parts regardless of whether or not they are oilslick or not.

JoeDavidson wrote:

1; People who talk shit on other types of bmx (usually street riders about park guys)
2; oilslick-camo-rasta crap, anything ...more

JoeDavidson wrote:

1; People who talk shit on other types of bmx (usually street riders about park guys)
2; oilslick-camo-rasta crap, anything that is associated with swag needs to be destroyed
3; Odyssey & sunday fanboys- sure the parts are decent but there is other stuff out there and just because a part has lifetime warranty does not mean its the only decent option
4; people who bitch about any rider who doesn't just flow; there are other aspects to bmx then just style and without the guys pushing it the 'steeze' tricks wouldn't even exist
5; weed & TCU- this shit doesn't need to be associated with bmx, i don't give a fuck if people choose to do it but putting it in edits little kids see is not cool

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tomdon wrote:

Are you aware that trends are what brings the majority of money into bmx?

tomdon wrote:

Are you aware that trends are what brings the majority of money into bmx?

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JoeDavidson wrote:

I very much doubt that. I'd say bmx growing due to greater exposure from big events and large sponsors pushing web edits and ...more

JoeDavidson wrote:

I very much doubt that. I'd say bmx growing due to greater exposure from big events and large sponsors pushing web edits and also from the growth of social media sites exposing a larger audience to the sport. The trends do bring some money in but people would still have to buy parts regardless of whether or not they are oilslick or not.

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But it sells. And quite well. As did rasta. Those 2 colorways have made more money than any other part and I'd stake my life on that. And I can't see how liking odyssey/sunday makes you a fanboy but qwhatever. The best is still the best at least for odyssey, not so much sunday anymore

tomdon wrote:

But it sells. And quite well. As did rasta. Those 2 colorways have made more money than any other part and I'd stake my life ...more

tomdon wrote:

But it sells. And quite well. As did rasta. Those 2 colorways have made more money than any other part and I'd stake my life on that. And I can't see how liking odyssey/sunday makes you a fanboy but qwhatever. The best is still the best at least for odyssey, not so much sunday anymore

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I doubt it's made more money then profile hubs, primo & profile cranks, S&M bars ect ect. And i never said people who like Odyssey, I said the fanboys who instantly assume odyssey stuff is the best just because its Odyssey and then slag off other parts & companies because in their opinion its better. It's also not necessarily better, the video they used to prove their parts to be superior came out before the latest wave of parts were released by companies and it also only used a very select number of forks. When the test is done by a impartial adjudicator comparing them against ALL forks currently on the market the test will be valid. The people I am talking about are the ones who fail to recognize this and push the parts onto everyone else.

JoeDavidson wrote:

I doubt it's made more money then profile hubs, primo & profile cranks, S&M bars ect ect. And i never said people who ...more

JoeDavidson wrote:

I doubt it's made more money then profile hubs, primo & profile cranks, S&M bars ect ect. And i never said people who like Odyssey, I said the fanboys who instantly assume odyssey stuff is the best just because its Odyssey and then slag off other parts & companies because in their opinion its better. It's also not necessarily better, the video they used to prove their parts to be superior came out before the latest wave of parts were released by companies and it also only used a very select number of forks. When the test is done by a impartial adjudicator comparing them against ALL forks currently on the market the test will be valid. The people I am talking about are the ones who fail to recognize this and push the parts onto everyone else.

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And with your logic, anyone who prefers a company for whatever reason can't "push the parts on to everyone else." Anyone can make a recommendation.

I like Odyssey. I think their parts are the best. Their cranks and forks are the best, and until proven otherwise, they are the strongest. Along with being the strongest, they are also some of the lightest. And of course, they have the only legitimate lifetime warranty in the industry. The test video is valid. I believe Odyssey is working on updated Stampy videos so you should see them soon. But even then, it's not like any company is going to bring out better parts anytime soon, considering no big name company has an engineer working for them (At least to my knowledge. The only companies I could imagine having an engineer are Tree and WTP/Eclat. Not sure if Sam at Tree is an engineer).

I'm not trying to "push" Odyssey on to everyone else. Even though I troll a lot on here, I want people to get the best parts for their money and get the best experience. Odyssey provides that. If Odyssey's parts weren't the best, I wouldn't recommend them. But having ridden many other companies parts and Odyssey's parts, I always go back to Odyssey. Yeah, people might like other parts because they like how they look or whatever other reason, but I try to show them that they're going to be happier in the long run if they buy the best overall parts... Odyssey's.

tomdon wrote:

But it sells. And quite well. As did rasta. Those 2 colorways have made more money than any other part and I'd stake my life ...more

tomdon wrote:

But it sells. And quite well. As did rasta. Those 2 colorways have made more money than any other part and I'd stake my life on that. And I can't see how liking odyssey/sunday makes you a fanboy but qwhatever. The best is still the best at least for odyssey, not so much sunday anymore

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I disagree, I feel that BLACK parts have been making WAY more all along that Rasta. How often do you see rasta parts? I see maybe 1 in 25 bikes with something rasta, and it is always some kid who smokes weed and thinks that's what rasta means.

Black parts are EVERYWHERE. Most of the kids on here run a few black parts, or whole bikes.

1. People who somke weed at the bike park. Or people who smoke in general at the bike park.
2. Ppl in the bike park who think they are the best and laugh at other ppl or kids when they get a trick wrong.
3. Scooters when clearly only bikes are allowed.

Xxohioanxx wrote:

And with your logic, anyone who prefers a company for whatever reason can't "push the parts on to everyone else." Anyone can ...more

Xxohioanxx wrote:

And with your logic, anyone who prefers a company for whatever reason can't "push the parts on to everyone else." Anyone can make a recommendation.

I like Odyssey. I think their parts are the best. Their cranks and forks are the best, and until proven otherwise, they are the strongest. Along with being the strongest, they are also some of the lightest. And of course, they have the only legitimate lifetime warranty in the industry. The test video is valid. I believe Odyssey is working on updated Stampy videos so you should see them soon. But even then, it's not like any company is going to bring out better parts anytime soon, considering no big name company has an engineer working for them (At least to my knowledge. The only companies I could imagine having an engineer are Tree and WTP/Eclat. Not sure if Sam at Tree is an engineer).

I'm not trying to "push" Odyssey on to everyone else. Even though I troll a lot on here, I want people to get the best parts for their money and get the best experience. Odyssey provides that. If Odyssey's parts weren't the best, I wouldn't recommend them. But having ridden many other companies parts and Odyssey's parts, I always go back to Odyssey. Yeah, people might like other parts because they like how they look or whatever other reason, but I try to show them that they're going to be happier in the long run if they buy the best overall parts... Odyssey's.

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no they can't, you don't see people asking what people think off two different sets of forks and someone saying eg fly as where people do it all the time with Odyssey. And lots of companies have brought out better parts since then, same as the R series are better than the old race forks. I would ride Bonedeth parts over Odyssey any day of the week personally and I doubt the R forks are stronger than Bombers if I'm honest. There are many companies out there who's parts are worth considering not just Odyssey.

And honestly I just wanted to vent about something that annoys the shit out of me.

Also to add to it, LOWBALLERS.

Example: A friend of mine had a Frame for sale, "make offer" listed for price.

All offers were under 75 bucks. And by barely used, I mean it was assembled by a shop mechanic, ridden in a parking lot for 10 minutes without pegs, and then disassembled. He bought it BRAND NEW. It was MINT. No scratches, NOTHING. It was built, and 180'd a few times, maybe a manual or two.

He had several hits, everyone offered 75 OR LESS. The lowest was 25. Are you kidding me? A BRAND NEW FRAME RIDDEN FOR 10 MINUTES, and you think it should be less than 10% of the original price? That shit pisses me off SO DAMN MUCH. This is why I RARELY sell any of my parts.

JoeDavidson wrote:

no they can't, you don't see people asking what people think off two different sets of forks and someone saying eg fly as ...more

JoeDavidson wrote:

no they can't, you don't see people asking what people think off two different sets of forks and someone saying eg fly as where people do it all the time with Odyssey. And lots of companies have brought out better parts since then, same as the R series are better than the old race forks. I would ride Bonedeth parts over Odyssey any day of the week personally and I doubt the R forks are stronger than Bombers if I'm honest. There are many companies out there who's parts are worth considering not just Odyssey.

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"no they can't, you don't see people asking what people think off two different sets of forks and someone saying eg fly as where people do it all the time with Odyssey."

People can say whatever they want. Most people will say which part they think is better, but also say Odyssey is the best. This is what I do, at least.

"I would ride Bonedeth parts over Odyssey any day of the week personally and I doubt the R forks are stronger than Bombers if I'm honest."

Fair enough, but there is absolutely no way Bone Deth forks are stronger than Odyssey forks. Crown cutout, 25mm cap, no 41 thermal for the entire manufacturing process (Which is what makes Odyssey parts the best), etc. And take a look at a side by side picture of the Bone Deth forks next to Animal forks. Look closely at the steerer tube and leg bends. Weird, huh? Odyssey is one of the few companies that designs all their parts from the ground up.

"There are many companies out there who's parts are worth considering not just Odyssey."

Yes, there are. But Odyssey's parts are the best you can buy, even if you don't factor in the legitimate lifetime warranty.

Xxohioanxx wrote:

"no they can't, you don't see people asking what people think off two different sets of forks and someone saying eg fly as ...more

Xxohioanxx wrote:

"no they can't, you don't see people asking what people think off two different sets of forks and someone saying eg fly as where people do it all the time with Odyssey."

People can say whatever they want. Most people will say which part they think is better, but also say Odyssey is the best. This is what I do, at least.

"I would ride Bonedeth parts over Odyssey any day of the week personally and I doubt the R forks are stronger than Bombers if I'm honest."

Fair enough, but there is absolutely no way Bone Deth forks are stronger than Odyssey forks. Crown cutout, 25mm cap, no 41 thermal for the entire manufacturing process (Which is what makes Odyssey parts the best), etc. And take a look at a side by side picture of the Bone Deth forks next to Animal forks. Look closely at the steerer tube and leg bends. Weird, huh? Odyssey is one of the few companies that designs all their parts from the ground up.

"There are many companies out there who's parts are worth considering not just Odyssey."

Yes, there are. But Odyssey's parts are the best you can buy, even if you don't factor in the legitimate lifetime warranty.

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Perhaps if they wanted odyssey forks they would have asked for peoples opinions on them, just a thought.
Also the Barrett forks have completely different dropouts than the bombers, the bends also look different.
'Odyssey are one of the few companies that designs all of their parts from the ground up' sure, that's why so much of the innovation in bmx comes from other companies.
And once again I don't think they are, I've rode lots of Odyssey parts and they have all been disappointing in comparison to other companies, but anyway I can't be arsed to argue with you anymore as I have better things to do, peace.

JoeDavidson wrote:

Perhaps if they wanted odyssey forks they would have asked for peoples opinions on them, just a thought.
Also the Barrett ...more

JoeDavidson wrote:

Perhaps if they wanted odyssey forks they would have asked for peoples opinions on them, just a thought.
Also the Barrett forks have completely different dropouts than the bombers, the bends also look different.
'Odyssey are one of the few companies that designs all of their parts from the ground up' sure, that's why so much of the innovation in bmx comes from other companies.
And once again I don't think they are, I've rode lots of Odyssey parts and they have all been disappointing in comparison to other companies, but anyway I can't be arsed to argue with you anymore as I have better things to do, peace.

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"Perhaps if they wanted odyssey forks they would have asked for peoples opinions on them, just a thought."

Please read my post again. I'm going to recommend the best regardless of whether someone wants them, but if they're asking what's the better option between multiple other forks, I'll choose between them as well.

"Also the Barrett forks have completely different dropouts than the bombers, the bends also look different."

Yeah, different dropouts. But same bends and almost identical steerer tube.

"sure, that's why so much of the innovation in bmx comes from other companies."

We clearly have different definitions of innovation. Investment casting, hydroforming, and things like that aren't innovation. They're manufacturing techniques that have been around for a long time, and so far in BMX, they do not perform as well as more traditional manufacturing techniques. Odyssey makes parts that are stronger, generally easier to use, and more efficient (Less flex, more efficient Antigram drivers, things of that nature). That's what innovation is to me. Not making pretty looking parts that are structurally inferior.

Odyssey is the company that started making strong yet light parts. Every fork around today has at least one aspect that was originally in an Odyssey fork. For example, the little bulge on the inside of the steerer tube that strengthens the fork. Another example is more focus on heat treating. Without Odyssey, parts would be even shittier than they already are.

Xxohioanxx wrote:

"no they can't, you don't see people asking what people think off two different sets of forks and someone saying eg fly as ...more

Xxohioanxx wrote:

"no they can't, you don't see people asking what people think off two different sets of forks and someone saying eg fly as where people do it all the time with Odyssey."

People can say whatever they want. Most people will say which part they think is better, but also say Odyssey is the best. This is what I do, at least.

"I would ride Bonedeth parts over Odyssey any day of the week personally and I doubt the R forks are stronger than Bombers if I'm honest."

Fair enough, but there is absolutely no way Bone Deth forks are stronger than Odyssey forks. Crown cutout, 25mm cap, no 41 thermal for the entire manufacturing process (Which is what makes Odyssey parts the best), etc. And take a look at a side by side picture of the Bone Deth forks next to Animal forks. Look closely at the steerer tube and leg bends. Weird, huh? Odyssey is one of the few companies that designs all their parts from the ground up.

"There are many companies out there who's parts are worth considering not just Odyssey."

Yes, there are. But Odyssey's parts are the best you can buy, even if you don't factor in the legitimate lifetime warranty.

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JoeDavidson wrote:

Perhaps if they wanted odyssey forks they would have asked for peoples opinions on them, just a thought.
Also the Barrett ...more

JoeDavidson wrote:

Perhaps if they wanted odyssey forks they would have asked for peoples opinions on them, just a thought.
Also the Barrett forks have completely different dropouts than the bombers, the bends also look different.
'Odyssey are one of the few companies that designs all of their parts from the ground up' sure, that's why so much of the innovation in bmx comes from other companies.
And once again I don't think they are, I've rode lots of Odyssey parts and they have all been disappointing in comparison to other companies, but anyway I can't be arsed to argue with you anymore as I have better things to do, peace.

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Xxohioanxx wrote:

"Perhaps if they wanted odyssey forks they would have asked for peoples opinions on them, just a thought."

Please read my ...more

Xxohioanxx wrote:

"Perhaps if they wanted odyssey forks they would have asked for peoples opinions on them, just a thought."

Please read my post again. I'm going to recommend the best regardless of whether someone wants them, but if they're asking what's the better option between multiple other forks, I'll choose between them as well.

"Also the Barrett forks have completely different dropouts than the bombers, the bends also look different."

Yeah, different dropouts. But same bends and almost identical steerer tube.

"sure, that's why so much of the innovation in bmx comes from other companies."

We clearly have different definitions of innovation. Investment casting, hydroforming, and things like that aren't innovation. They're manufacturing techniques that have been around for a long time, and so far in BMX, they do not perform as well as more traditional manufacturing techniques. Odyssey makes parts that are stronger, generally easier to use, and more efficient (Less flex, more efficient Antigram drivers, things of that nature). That's what innovation is to me. Not making pretty looking parts that are structurally inferior.

Odyssey is the company that started making strong yet light parts. Every fork around today has at least one aspect that was originally in an Odyssey fork. For example, the little bulge on the inside of the steerer tube that strengthens the fork. Another example is more focus on heat treating. Without Odyssey, parts would be even shittier than they already are.

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Read this. Went back and looked at other arguments of yours (arguments, not unsupported rants) and I'm turning against my old opinion. While I do think the odsy videos are kinda outdated, I don't believe their parts are. And a question, are the Sunday octave forks just as strong as the Odyssey ones and do they have the same warranty? Because that whole, "break a fork, get another free, provided that you EVER break a fork" thing. Yes I'm being a little dick rider but after awhile I saw the light in your opinions and they're better than mine.

Innovation means introduction of a new idea method or device. Take it how you would like.

Regardless of what you both say, TONS of companies make great stuff, and Odyssey is definitely one of them. Some companies are trying different things with hydroforming (which is a great way to SHAPE the tubing for a strong setup that you can thicken and thin tubing wherever you want, think Wave tubing as a possible example, or 99% of MTBs from shops) and investment casting (which is creating a formed part in a mold, which then tend to have welds in a different spot, usually part way up the fork leg) and they are also very strong options.

Invesment cast dropouts are stronger BECAUSE the welds are not on a dropout. If you see fork breaks, the are almost always next to or on a weld. So the dropout itself, not having a weld, is less prone to breaking in the same spots. BUT that puts a weld on the leg of the fork, which CAN have more stress applied to it, causing possible cracks on/around the weld.

Odyssey is overrated , they make great brakes and forks and cranks, fuck their hubs though

A post about pet peeves
Just kidding, lets see people argue over the best brand.

Pet peeve number 7. People who are obsessed over being right.
Odyssey may be the best fit for some people, others, maybe not.
Buy whatever you want, bottom like, ride bikes and have fun.

MidWestBMX wrote:

A post about pet peeves
Just kidding, lets see people argue over the best brand.

Pet peeve number 7. People who are ...more

MidWestBMX wrote:

A post about pet peeves
Just kidding, lets see people argue over the best brand.

Pet peeve number 7. People who are obsessed over being right.
Odyssey may be the best fit for some people, others, maybe not.
Buy whatever you want, bottom like, ride bikes and have fun.

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Who the hell rides for fun?

Don't tell me to have fun!

DAMMIT THIS IS MY PET PEEEVVVVVVEEEE













jk.