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6/24/2015 7:20 PM

I ride with a break because moms. I got a 2013 wethepeople reason and fit wider tires now the break rubs. I tried fiddling with the break in everyway possible and the only way for it not to rub is putting the psi down to 10. I need these tires on my bike so dont say to get new tires. My question is, what is the best brake for my tires (my tire size is 2.4 rear). I need to know soon

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6/24/2015 7:26 PM

What was wrong with the other tires?

The bike came with tires that work with those brakes. Common sense says put your old tires on.

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6/24/2015 7:32 PM

pnj wrote:

What was wrong with the other tires?

The bike came with tires that work with those brakes. Common sense says put your old tires on.

My old tires are ruined because they got slashed by someone when i locked it up at school so i got new tires

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6/24/2015 7:42 PM

Ok. Then find out what size tires came on the bike and get the correct size tires. There isn't any magic here. Wide tires don't work on your bike with brakes.

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6/24/2015 8:28 PM

I had this problem. I filed my brake arms down where it rubbed. Obviously don't take off any more than you need to, and whatever you do don't file all the way to the spring.

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6/24/2015 9:41 PM

All that 2.4 tire area resistance on the ground didn't know you could go fast enough to need a brake , shouldn't have got 2.4s

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6/25/2015 8:33 AM

But but....WIIIIDE TYRES!!! sad

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6/25/2015 10:17 AM

Mychaylo wrote:

But but....WIIIIDE TYRES!!! sad

Whats wrong with wide tires

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6/25/2015 10:28 AM

Mychaylo wrote:

But but....WIIIIDE TYRES!!! sad

DR1Ft wrote:

Whats wrong with wide tires

Roll like shit and have weaker sidewalls.

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6/25/2015 11:09 AM

Wide tires don't fit, duh.

You might be able to get caliper brakes to fit.

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6/25/2015 1:02 PM

eskimojay wrote:

All that 2.4 tire area resistance on the ground didn't know you could go fast enough to need a brake , shouldn't have got 2.4s

Lol

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6/25/2015 1:18 PM

Mychaylo wrote:

But but....WIIIIDE TYRES!!! sad

DR1Ft wrote:

Whats wrong with wide tires

Ahh skeet skeet wrote:

Roll like shit and have weaker sidewalls.

and look silly on rims that are way thinner

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6/25/2015 2:12 PM

DR1Ft wrote:

Whats wrong with wide tires

Ahh skeet skeet wrote:

Roll like shit and have weaker sidewalls.

ironmaiden666 wrote:

and look silly on rims that are way thinner

They actually look pretty sick

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6/25/2015 3:49 PM
Edited Date/Time: 6/25/2015 3:50 PM

DR1Ft wrote:

Whats wrong with wide tires

Ahh skeet skeet wrote:

Roll like shit and have weaker sidewalls.

ironmaiden666 wrote:

and look silly on rims that are way thinner

So you're saying my bike looks silly? Haha.

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6/25/2015 4:45 PM

Huge tires are just a pain in the ass and look stupid. Thin tires go faster and you don't have to true your wheel every time you under rotate a 180.

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6/25/2015 4:50 PM

Four wrote:

Huge tires are just a pain in the ass and look stupid. Thin tires go faster and you don't have to true your wheel every time you under rotate a 180.

But they make my lands a little less painful. At 45 I need all the extra cushion I can get. I'm not racing anyone so speed isn't an issue. To the OP maybe the Odyssey Evo 2 brakes will work. I have 2.4 tires and no brake issues.

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6/25/2015 5:10 PM

Four wrote:

Huge tires are just a pain in the ass and look stupid. Thin tires go faster and you don't have to true your wheel every time you under rotate a 180.

Flexte wrote:

But they make my lands a little less painful. At 45 I need all the extra cushion I can get. I'm not racing anyone so speed isn't an issue. To the OP maybe the Odyssey Evo 2 brakes will work. I have 2.4 tires and no brake issues.

Your excluding the fact that a lot of frames don't have the clearance for fat tires.

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6/25/2015 5:23 PM

DR1Ft wrote:

Whats wrong with wide tires

Well for one they rub your brakes causing you to make this thread. It'd be cheaper and less hassle to just get a normal sized tire in the rear.

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6/25/2015 6:40 PM
Edited Date/Time: 6/25/2015 11:30 PM

Four wrote:

Huge tires are just a pain in the ass and look stupid. Thin tires go faster and you don't have to true your wheel every time you under rotate a 180.

Flexte wrote:

But they make my lands a little less painful. At 45 I need all the extra cushion I can get. I'm not racing anyone so speed isn't an issue. To the OP maybe the Odyssey Evo 2 brakes will work. I have 2.4 tires and no brake issues.

Ahh skeet skeet wrote:

Your excluding the fact that a lot of frames don't have the clearance for fat tires.

True but he said they rub the brakes not the frame. Some brake arms look wider than others. I never tested any other brakes out so I really don't know. Just wanted to give the guy an option to try.

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6/25/2015 9:17 PM

Four wrote:

Huge tires are just a pain in the ass and look stupid. Thin tires go faster and you don't have to true your wheel every time you under rotate a 180.

Flexte wrote:

But they make my lands a little less painful. At 45 I need all the extra cushion I can get. I'm not racing anyone so speed isn't an issue. To the OP maybe the Odyssey Evo 2 brakes will work. I have 2.4 tires and no brake issues.

Thank you so much flexte for some real help. Thanks

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6/25/2015 9:32 PM

Four wrote:

Huge tires are just a pain in the ass and look stupid. Thin tires go faster and you don't have to true your wheel every time you under rotate a 180.

Flexte wrote:

But they make my lands a little less painful. At 45 I need all the extra cushion I can get. I'm not racing anyone so speed isn't an issue. To the OP maybe the Odyssey Evo 2 brakes will work. I have 2.4 tires and no brake issues.

DR1Ft wrote:

Thank you so much flexte for some real help. Thanks

I think wide tires might be affecting your brakes a little bit. That could be considered a problem with your wide tires, brakes, or operator error.

I'm assuming you have a u brake, with 990 mounts? I will also assume you have a brake lever. I'm also going to assume your brakes are made up of two independently moving arms.

You probably have room between your brake pads and your rim, if not your wheel won't roll very fast or at all. You also may or may not have a cable nut on your break lever.

Twisting that brake cable nut in your brake lever will cause the distance between your brakepads and rim to shrink. HOWEVER, it will also affect the clearance between the top of your tire and the bottom of your U-brakes


In short:
Did you adjust your brakes yet?

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6/25/2015 9:43 PM

Flexte wrote:

But they make my lands a little less painful. At 45 I need all the extra cushion I can get. I'm not racing anyone so speed isn't an issue. To the OP maybe the Odyssey Evo 2 brakes will work. I have 2.4 tires and no brake issues.

DR1Ft wrote:

Thank you so much flexte for some real help. Thanks

Nwewinit wrote:

I think wide tires might be affecting your brakes a little bit. That could be considered a problem with your wide tires, brakes, or operator error.

I'm assuming you have a u brake, with 990 mounts? I will also assume you have a brake lever. I'm also going to assume your brakes are made up of two independently moving arms.

You probably have room between your brake pads and your rim, if not your wheel won't roll very fast or at all. You also may or may not have a cable nut on your break lever.

Twisting that brake cable nut in your brake lever will cause the distance between your brakepads and rim to shrink. HOWEVER, it will also affect the clearance between the top of your tire and the bottom of your U-brakes


In short:
Did you adjust your brakes yet?

Yes i did and i can slide all over the place by just slightly holding the brake. I have done everything for hours and my pads are almost touching. I even brought it to a bike shop and they couldnt do anything they just told me to lower my tire pressure but that didnt work unless i want to ruin my tube.

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6/25/2015 10:07 PM

DR1Ft wrote:

Thank you so much flexte for some real help. Thanks

Nwewinit wrote:

I think wide tires might be affecting your brakes a little bit. That could be considered a problem with your wide tires, brakes, or operator error.

I'm assuming you have a u brake, with 990 mounts? I will also assume you have a brake lever. I'm also going to assume your brakes are made up of two independently moving arms.

You probably have room between your brake pads and your rim, if not your wheel won't roll very fast or at all. You also may or may not have a cable nut on your break lever.

Twisting that brake cable nut in your brake lever will cause the distance between your brakepads and rim to shrink. HOWEVER, it will also affect the clearance between the top of your tire and the bottom of your U-brakes


In short:
Did you adjust your brakes yet?

DR1Ft wrote:

Yes i did and i can slide all over the place by just slightly holding the brake. I have done everything for hours and my pads are almost touching. I even brought it to a bike shop and they couldnt do anything they just told me to lower my tire pressure but that didnt work unless i want to ruin my tube.

Tires just too big.. Your brake will be "touchy" are they new brake pads? They'll wear down after a while and give you a little more play in your brake lever. You coooould sand your brakepads down but you's essentially just be wearing out your brake pads out on purpose.

So you can:
Grind on your brake arms to create more clearance.
Grind on your brake pads to create more clearance.
Grind on your tires with your touchy brakes.

It would probably be cheaper to get a shorter tire.

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6/25/2015 11:59 PM

Flexte wrote:

So you're saying my bike looks silly? Haha.

Your tires don't look crazy like some other ones I see

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6/26/2015 6:31 AM

You can also change where the angle cone things are on the brake pads (thinner on inside of brake arm, thicker outside if that makes sense) to adjust. Sounds like you might need to get yourself a narrower tire for the back though, or a different brake? (if you get a new brake setup ask wherever you get if it works with 2.4s)

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6/26/2015 6:35 PM

ok i had this problem aswell. i got a file and filed the brake arm unitl the tire fitted. but i ended up taking my brakes of later and didnt tell my parents. they didnt notice for a while then dad noticed and he just said dont tell mum or she will freak out.

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6/26/2015 7:41 PM

dave lawrence wrote:

You can also change where the angle cone things are on the brake pads (thinner on inside of brake arm, thicker outside if that makes sense) to adjust. Sounds like you might need to get yourself a narrower tire for the back though, or a different brake? (if you get a new brake setup ask wherever you get if it works with 2.4s)

This.


Get rid of all those spacers.
In a brake like yours, you've got about four adjustment points. At the handlebar, at the straddle wire, at the pivot point (I am assuming yours does, but not sure on that), and at the pads themselves.

The best would be to remove the spacers. If it's still not good, put the brake tension spring fully out. Adjust the slack as much as possible: pull that wire under the TT like you are pulling a noodle out of your nose. Fine tune with the screwing stuff.

If you are still not rollin', grind the baby.

Man, 2.4s on the rear are overkill. I've got a WTP too (2014 Crysis), and 2.3 were a pain to install already (with the brakes included).

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6/26/2015 11:50 PM

EVO IIs have less clearance than some other brake designs.

Three brakes that I've know to work well with 2.4 tires are the Demolition Vulcans, Odyssey Springfields and the Kink Desist brakes.

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6/27/2015 12:29 AM
Edited Date/Time: 6/27/2015 12:30 AM

If you want to keep your brake, and also to ride big tyres without any rubbing problem, try to run a 2.40" / 2.25" combo.

I personally ride 2.25" front and back, i have never seen my tyre rub a brake. (tried with a fly manual, and an old salt brake).

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6/27/2015 2:46 AM

transition_chris wrote:

EVO IIs have less clearance than some other brake designs.

Three brakes that I've know to work well with 2.4 tires are the Demolition Vulcans, Odyssey Springfields and the Kink Desist brakes.

Evo 2's work fine with my machete 2.4

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