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mistaare mistaare
8/21/2020 11:59 AM

Welp, its about that time to replace the ole'Steadfast. Now that FBM isnt around, I am looking for something that rides as close to the steadfast as possible. Just wondering what others have replaced theirs with? Right now looking at the:
- S&M Blackmagic
- Fit Heartbreak.

Ride a skate parks and indoors (mainly Rays and the Wheel Mill). I do not do any tech lip tricks, but more just flow around and with little airs, manuals, grinds etc.

What are you guys running?

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jmz313 jmz313
8/21/2020 12:19 PM

The Hartbreaker looks cool IMO. If i buy a trail frame again, with the steadfast gone, it would be the Hartbreaker probably.. if you want to sell the steadfast, depending on price and TT , i may be interested, LMK.

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jboozer4 jboozer4
8/21/2020 3:30 PM

Hartbreaker, blackmagic, ccr, and mod are the big trail frames I know of right now. They also remade the aitken s3.5, slightly more responsive but still pretty transition oriented. Funny, I actually rode a dudes bike yesterday who had a custom built aitken frame with a 21.75tt, probably the only one in the world like that it was a roast machine! Also look out for the 3/8” chainstays on the ccr. I had profiles already so the 75$ axle was no biggy for me to convert but if you aren’t close like that you could get caught with a frame and no rear wheel that fits it. The bikes plenty strong with 3/8 it’s a beast just FYI

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spencer666 spencer666
8/21/2020 6:02 PM

I just hung up my Steadfast last week and replaced it with an S&M MOD frame. It’s just a tiny bit shorter in the rear and a tiny bit steeper in the head tube angle, hardly even noticeable to be honest. It feels great in the bowls and at the trails. Highly recommend!

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blizzbikes blizzbikes
8/21/2020 11:28 PM

Order a custom from John Corts (fbm's welder) at https://www.workfab.bike/

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dave lawrence dave lawrence
8/24/2020 4:31 AM

I'm a fan of my Radio Nemesis for cruising around. Just enough tech to be easy to crank around, but long enough to feel pretty steady at speed.

"Hey anybody ever make that mistake like right when you wake up in the morning and you believe in yourself?" -Kyle Kinane

"BIKES!" -Tom Segura

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mistaare mistaare
8/24/2020 10:25 AM

I’m torn between the Heartbreaker or Blackmagic. I definitely do not want shorter chain stays.

Heartbreaker has a slightly steeper HT angle which I doubt I will notice. Slightly longer CS, which I would like, BUT a slightly lower BB which i don’t know if I will notice.

The Black Magic has an even SLIGHTER mellow HT angle which I don’t think I would notice, and even longer CS. However, I think I read somewhere it has a longer head tube.

The custom frame is an option, have not ruled that out.

Thanks for all your input.

At 49, I definitely do not want to learn new geometry.

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mistaare mistaare
8/24/2020 12:44 PM

To be honest, standover height is the one thing I don’t know much about.

Back in the day, I don’t remember it being part of the geometry. Can expand on that a little?

Thanks a ton!

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dave lawrence dave lawrence
8/25/2020 7:03 AM

If money is not an issue, why not get a custom with the same specs/tweak a few minor things?

Unless you can find a frame that checks all the necessary boxes of course.

"Hey anybody ever make that mistake like right when you wake up in the morning and you believe in yourself?" -Kyle Kinane

"BIKES!" -Tom Segura

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Jared Pabis Jared Pabis
8/25/2020 9:12 AM

I had a Steadfast and Hartbreaker built up at the same time. For rear end length I ran 13.9 on the Hartbreaker, and tried 13.75/13.9 on the Steadfast. Similar components on each bike.

Both bikes were really fun to ride. The Hartbreaker wanted to go straight, and was very stable. The 11.35 bottom bracket really puts you "in" the bike. The Steadfast felt more reactive, but not twitchy by any means. You can really tell the difference between the bottom bracket heights (11.35 vs 11.625). I ended up running the bars a little lower on the Hartbreaker, and also put a slightly bigger tire in the rear to give the feeling of a higher bb. I liked the Hartbreaker, but I think 11.5 is the lowest I want to go.

I sold both of those frames and ordered a custom FBM. The geometry is pretty similar to a Credence MOD. I basically wanted a Steadfast with a shorter rear end (11.55 slammed, 13.70 with 27-9), 74.5hta, 11.6 bb height, 9.125 stand over, welded seat stay mounts and 120mm head tube. Tubing was a little beefier than the Steadfast too. I am not a good rider by any means, and those details sound picky, but thats the geometry I came up with based on other frames I liked (Steadfast, Autopilot, FBM Credence, Villicus Prime, PW Moto, etc).

Depending on how long you like your chainstay, the Black Magic could be a good option. It would be closer to the steadfast than the hartbreaker. If you want something slightly shorter than the Steadfast, check out the MOD. For a few dollars more, John Corts can build you a custom https://www.instagram.com/jcortsmetalworks/

Let us know how it turns out.

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Bryan91 Bryan91
8/25/2020 11:20 AM

I'm a huge S&M fanboy, but it seems like it would make more sense having the former FBM welder make you a custom for the $60, or so difference.

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mistaare mistaare
9/29/2020 5:04 AM

So I went with the S&M BM. Buying components this week. Is there even a market for used bikes? Hopefully a 4 yo bike ridden for a 49 yo father will be a big selling point. 😂

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jmz313 jmz313
9/29/2020 5:35 AM
mistaare wrote:

So I went with the S&M ...more

id be interested in your steadfast depending on price,,,, LMK.

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mistaare mistaare
9/30/2020 4:52 PM

I have to see what used bikes are going for. Madera hubs, profile race cranks, push stem, odyssey 411 9” rise bars, Evo II brakes, deluxe sealed bearing pedals, odyssey R32 forks...

I got white, with all black components. That way my kid might be able to find me easier when we are riding parks!😂

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cky199 cky199
9/30/2020 5:23 PM

Definitely a market for used parts especially if they’re quality. You’d have no problem selling that fbm frame

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mistaare mistaare
1/7/2021 7:28 AM

Well, it took a while, but got it build and dialed in. Right after I picked it up, the weather got crappy and my local indoor park got "Covid-shut-down" and just recently opened back. up.

Went with the S&M Black Magic and so far love it. It seems to ride more like what I remember riding back in the day. I mean, my first several years riding, 'street' riding didnt even have a name. we called it,,,, riding :-)

Thanks again for all your input!

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spencer666 spencer666
1/7/2021 7:48 AM
mistaare wrote:

Well, it took a while, but ...more

Awesome man! Any pics???

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.pegless. .pegless.
1/7/2021 1:42 PM

You won’t have any problems selling a steadfast now. Join the fbm group on Facebook, people are paying top dollar for stuff on there right now.
Oh, actually, sell it to me, really cheap 😊

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Droogskull Droogskull
1/7/2021 4:01 PM
blizzbikes wrote:

Order a custom from John ...more

This! Just get a Steadfast recreated.

Refs: Wade. Beastassdick. ScramHype Lee_Rager(x7) Spikez5 TCBmx Dolphin
With seller feedback and ref on Bmx-forum.com and PBNation.com. WhiteKinght

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eskimojay eskimojay
1/7/2021 4:04 PM

Get a deployer

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eskimojay eskimojay
1/7/2021 4:25 PM

You can still go apeshit and run a maniac made sprocket and stem at drgmachine if you Google that you might find them , I’m thinking about it I need a sprocket right now

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BMXogRider BMXogRider
1/7/2021 6:47 PM

The BM looks like a great bike and you can’t go wrong as it’s an S&M. Have fun and keep beasting at the parks.

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.pegless. .pegless.
1/7/2021 10:37 PM

They could’ve made you a custom that would be a deployer, they still had stock of all the parts. I’ve got deployer stay bridges on my custom. They don’t come with a stove dialler though

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