S&M Tall boy or BSD Raider ?

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2/29/2016 1:12 AM

i'm looking for a decent 21.5" frame. i'm confused between S&M tallboy and bsd raider. can you please help me compare between them two from where strength and geometry ?


2/29/2016 1:29 AM
Edited Date/Time: 2/29/2016 1:31 AM

Tough call , I run both . They both make good stuff , I'd say get one you want based on colour or graphics and ride it , you'll like it .

I'm pretty sure the Tallboy comes in a new crazy looking black , but the classic raw is just the sickest thing to me at the moment .

My S&M frame is good so far , and I even got to shave my dropouts while keeping warranty so I'd give them an A+ for warranty service ( with the help of Brink Distro PIC ) .


Edit : Bars , chain are BSD , and I have Paley Grips / Alex pedals being thrown on a spare soon. BSD holds it down as well , keep them in mind .


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2/29/2016 8:21 AM

I had a Tall Boy and I loved it, would definitely get another one. BSD also makes very nice frames however with S&M being american made that'd be my reasoning for going with the S&M. I also beat the piss out of my tall boy and it never had any dents or cracks. Whatever you choose you'll like, that's just my 2 cents


2/29/2016 10:12 AM

Both are great quality frames with a nearly similar geo, so much similar than you might do your final pick because of a color. You can also consider the BSD passenger, once again, same kind of geo, just with lower BB (11.5" instead of 11.7" on the frames you are looking for), I ride one in 21.5" and it's the best frame I have ever rode.
But whatever one you choose, you are comparing only great stuff so you cannot go wrong, 21.5" tube will change your life for the better.


2/29/2016 10:38 AM

the Raider V2 has a 75.2 degree headtube, the tallboy is 75. the only other notable difference is the BSD uses 7mm thick investment cast dropouts on the V2. I would go with the BSD since those dropouts sound strong and i think its a little cheaper. If you run brakes, the tallboy might be better since it has the angled bosses.


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2/29/2016 11:41 AM

Literally everyone here rides a Passenger ( I know 4 on top of my head ) and one guy beats his to FUCK and he loves it , I've seen some dude huck a huge floaty tailwhip , boosted high , and he landed it flat and the frame didn't even look like it cared , no flex or anything .


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