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1/11/2016 4:07 PM

Gonna buy a new frame either s and m btm or total voltron or sandstorm
I like the geo on all 3 all about the same just not sure which one I want
Anybody ride them got a preference?

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1/11/2016 4:29 PM

S&M is American Made, Total is not, but also solid.

Honestly I would say go with whatever Geo matches what you want, OR color since you will adapt to whatever you get.

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1/11/2016 4:43 PM

Yea you should buy the frame that fits your geo requirements regardless of brand, but if those are your only 2 choices buy S&M! You're American so buy American and support our nation/ride with pride.

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1/11/2016 5:59 PM

In before pictures of broken BTM frames with thin tubing.

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1/11/2016 6:58 PM

Like said before it depends on geo.

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1/11/2016 7:28 PM

I've rode a friends BTM and is felt amazing , shit spun so easily . It felt nice . S&M makes quality stuff , too .

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1/11/2016 8:25 PM

IMO I think Standard and Laird make the best frames, but dayum are they expensive!

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1/11/2016 8:29 PM

S&M!

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1/11/2016 8:35 PM

Brayden_Buckingham wrote:

I've rode a friends BTM and is felt amazing , shit spun so easily . It felt nice . S&M makes quality stuff , too .

You can never go wrong with a BTM.

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1/11/2016 8:39 PM

Also if you're in to a more Total style frame, but want an S&M, check out the new Dagger frame:

http://www.sandmbikes.com/product/hardgoods/dagger-frame/

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1/11/2016 8:54 PM
Edited Date/Time: 1/11/2016 8:54 PM

Or maybe the motoross its got the same geo but seems better built

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1/11/2016 10:19 PM

Fbm.

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1/12/2016 4:47 PM

S&M

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1/12/2016 5:22 PM

s&m

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1/12/2016 5:25 PM

Buzzbegone wrote:

IMO I think Standard and Laird make the best frames, but dayum are they expensive!

This.

I want a Lairdframe for my next build.

If that is too far out of budget, then something not many have.

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1/14/2016 4:02 PM

If i was gonna go non american I would go WTP. Otherwise S&M. I have a Fit (pretty muchS&m) and I love my WTP much better. German Quailty!

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1/14/2016 4:30 PM
Edited Date/Time: 1/14/2016 4:35 PM

Buzzbegone wrote:

Yea you should buy the frame that fits your geo requirements regardless of brand, but if those are your only 2 choices buy ...more

Agreed. And wouldn't mind having a Standard frame myself as well! That or an FBM

Agreed with Skullmunch too about WTP. Tho I'd probably just buy a Sunday if I was trying to get another foreign made frame, but I'm a little Odyssey biased anyways. Which Fit frame do you have? Only their actual signature frames are USA made

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1/14/2016 5:35 PM

if you're going for a park type frame get the S&M Dagger like it was mentioned already

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6/30/2017 2:36 PM

WTP message or Dagger?

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6/30/2017 3:05 PM

Dude, do you really even have to ask. S&m every single time, especially in this forum.

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6/30/2017 11:11 PM

michael.eckhart wrote:

WTP message or Dagger?

S&M FTW

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7/1/2017 9:26 AM

How about The Dagger or Volume Vessel?

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7/1/2017 1:38 PM

S&M Whammo or Tall Boy.

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