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I'm not too familiar with how they're supposed to look, but I take it they forgot to fully weld the gusset? Did you email them at all? Something like that should for sure be covered.
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They should build you a new frame.
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sundaybmxRR wrote:I'm not too familiar with how they're supposed to look, but I take it they forgot to fully weld the gusset? Did you email them ...more
That's how T1 gussets are, with the cutout. For one, the headtube is so out of round that the frame is unusable. Also, the weld on the gusset is complete shit, as you can see in the pic. The juniors at my high school can weld way better than that. I emailed Joe at T1 a few weeks ago but it's been two weeks since I've heard back. Gonna e-mail Empire and S&M tomorrow.
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I'm still waiting to hear back from Joe. He said he would e-mail me back when he heard back from S&M.
Joe Rich doesn't lie. Therefore, this lies on S&M.
Hopefully I can get a new Barcode. If not, I don't know. You can make damn sure I'm not getting an SFA, haha. Not going to buy any part that is welded by S&M/Fit ever again. I'd probably go for a Pedal Driven or FBM custom. I have a specific list of things I need so I might have to search around a bit, haha.
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Xxohioanxx wrote:That's how T1 gussets are, with the cutout. For one, the headtube is so out of round that the frame is unusable. Also, the ...more
Oh I thought they forgot to weld it at certain spots but shit I didn't even notice those welds, gross. Maybe whoever welded it was trying to hurry up & get out of there on a Friday or something haha.
But yeah Email S&M for sure, and maybe T1 again, or just call them. Calling would get a faster response anyway.
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sundaybmxRR wrote:Oh I thought they forgot to weld it at certain spots but shit I didn't even notice those welds, gross. Maybe whoever welded it ...more
This is why I personally dont like S&M and other hand welded parts. You never know if the person who welded it was in a rush or not, paying attention or not, sober or not, etc. I trust a machine programmed to do it as close to perfect every time over a random, clumsy human who ill never meet. For all you know, he is a psychopath and intentionally welded something wrong hoping to injure whoever rides it.
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That would be really shitty if they didn't take care of you.
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This Really Isn't On! I AM An S&M/Fit Fan, My Benny Is Spotless, I Have S&M Bars & They're Great. I Hate To Say This About Them, But They Were Almost ALL Pre-Ordered & There WAS A Rush To Get Them Out & Maybe, Just Maybe Whoever Welded That Frame Wasn't As Into It As It Isn't An S&M Model? I Know People At S&M & They Hold Down A Tight Schedule, This Won't Go Unanswered, Someone Is In For A Bollocking!
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HardBMX_Tim wrote:This is why I personally dont like S&M and other hand welded parts. You never know if the person who welded it was in a ...more
I think it was Dave who made this point in a previous thread, something along the lines of
"Hand welded parts can have defects because a worker's quality Monday after a weekend of possibly partying, will be drastically different than during the week when they're much better, then Friday when they probably wanna get out of there in a hurry"
so yeah that's a big issue to consider.
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sundaybmxRR wrote:Oh I thought they forgot to weld it at certain spots but shit I didn't even notice those welds, gross. Maybe whoever welded it ...more
HardBMX_Tim wrote:This is why I personally dont like S&M and other hand welded parts. You never know if the person who welded it was in a ...more
sundaybmxRR wrote:I think it was Dave who made this point in a previous thread, something along the lines of
"Hand welded parts can have ...more
I just try to avoid ANYTHING made by hand. My bars are Standard Strips (hand welded I believe), and they have beautiful welds, but I can still see slight defect in the welds on the edges. Nevertheless they feel great and im sure theyll last a lifetime, but I would rather have a set of factory made bars just for my own state of mind.
A machine will almost always do it 99% accurate, and if it doesn't, it will detect it and throw it out/fix it.
A human will mess up during manufacturing AND completely miss the defect while looking it over before boxing it up and shipping it out. Or worse, not care and mess up almost on purpose and ignore it while looking it over!
I know majority of riders are all "199% murican made, blabla" and will get butthurt, but I see absolutely NO advantage to handmade parts. The risk is SOOOO much higher.
That being said, we need more Taiwanese like factories in America for guys like me who hate handmade. I would love to support American made companies, but not at the cost of potentially injuring myself due to somebody else's clumsiness when making my bike.
Edit: easier said than done though haha
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Dope! Im sorta an old head an remember when T1 first started an the Barcode first dropped. I wanted one sooooo bad but ended up riding gettin rid of my baby blue Hoffman Taj an went with a Standard STA.....
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THat sucks man! THey should definitely need to work it out and give you some solution!!
About the machine made shit, i have to agree, a machine can be literally perfect, while a human cant.
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Joe is cool. I emailed about some barcode sticker kits and a metal headbadge. He replied saying they were available. I payed. A month went by until he accepted the payment on pp. Then he emailed me a week later to ask had I recievied the stuff which I had not. The next day I got an email from usps saying I had a first class parcel en route with a little message from Joe.
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Brayden_Buckingham wrote:Local has a barcode and he fucking shreds and his bike looms amazing
I have two barcodes, and I suck.
Oh, nice fucking necro.
