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6/30/2014 9:19 AM

I'm ordering a new sprocket either tonight or tomorrow but i'm stuck between the subrosa guard sprocket, animal m5, and the Tree OG. I haven't heard anything bad about Tree but I'm on the fence about getting a sprocket with a different tooth count. Does a different tooth count really change anything? Also i just wanted to hear what you've got to say about guard sprockets Photo

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6/30/2014 9:21 AM

Tbh i like the subrosa one in the pic, looks good

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6/30/2014 9:27 AM

datguycal wrote:

Tbh i like the subrosa one in the pic, looks good

Subrosa for sure. 5 bolt holes, full guard with clearance for wider chains, and looks sick. Also diggin that escort mk1 in you profile pic

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6/30/2014 10:05 AM

datguycal wrote:

Tbh i like the subrosa one in the pic, looks good

tomdon wrote:

Subrosa for sure. 5 bolt holes, full guard with clearance for wider chains, and looks sick. Also diggin that escort mk1 in you ...more

Seems pretty solid too. I'll be sure to post once I get it.

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6/30/2014 10:30 AM

Bigger the tooth, higher the gear ratio. Higher the gear ratio, harder it is to pedal, but you also accelerate much faster and have a higher top speed. I would recommend 27-28t for a 9t driver if you currently run 25t. Alot of people enjoy 30/9 but i wouldn't recommend jumping straight to it. May be really hard to get used to.

I wouldn't get the Subrosa unless you hit your chain/sprocket frequently. Also, Tree makes a bashguard for their OG Sprocket, maybe worth looking at?

Best looking sprocket imo is the Backhand Bikes Forward, though its not available through mail order.

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6/30/2014 10:30 AM

Skworl.

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6/30/2014 10:46 AM

Subrosa

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6/30/2014 10:57 AM

HardBMX_Tim wrote:

Bigger the tooth, higher the gear ratio. Higher the gear ratio, harder it is to pedal, but you also accelerate much faster and ...more

Ah that makes sense , I had a specialized with a 28T (I think). I was amazed at how fast I could go , since i'd only ever had walmart and target bikes before then haha. But yea, I bent my sprocket up trying to feeble..and I don't have much bike control since i'm just getting into grinds. I hop to the right (drive side) and manage to smack my chain or sprocket almost every time. I was honestly going to try and get my drive side flipped to the opposite side to see if I could avoid a damaged chain/sprocket while I'm still learning.

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6/30/2014 11:02 AM

Out of those if go the OG tree with the extra guard. But if your grinding drive side get a s&m cymbol dsg and you'll be fine

30-9 is sweet

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6/30/2014 11:17 AM

If you can afford a new rear hub, flipping your drive train would still be your best bet. I ran RHD and grind right, went through SOOO many sprockets this way. I tried using micro sprockets (22-23t) and still killed em. I never used a bashguard sprocket, BUT, i believe if you did, the guard would catch on double pegs and such while youre learning how to do them.
I finally switched to LHD and used a non-guard sprocket and it lasted me about a year, I rarely hit it. Usually only when I got into a feeble crooked and my rear peg slipped off.

If you plan to learn oppo grinds/crooks/crank arm grinds/sprocket stalls, then definitely go with the guarded sprocket. If not, and you can get a LHD hub in the near future, definitely get the Tree, and you can buy a separate bashguard for it later if you decide to learn those other grinds.

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6/30/2014 11:45 AM

HardBMX_Tim wrote:

If you can afford a new rear hub, flipping your drive train would still be your best bet. I ran RHD and grind right, went ...more

If your sprocket catches on dp's you'd have to have a low as fuck bb height.

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6/30/2014 11:47 AM

Something with a bash guard until you can afford to switch your drive train for sure. And let's meet up later this week. I hurt my hand so I'm going easy for a few days.

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6/30/2014 11:52 AM

On my 11.5" bb with 25t guardless, there was barely any room to spare. 26t would have hit no doubt. If youre running a 28-30t bashguard and grind inner peg, I believe you will rub with 11.7"-. Not like you cant learn how to avoid hitting, but still.

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6/30/2014 1:28 PM

HardBMX_Tim wrote:

If you can afford a new rear hub, flipping your drive train would still be your best bet. I ran RHD and grind right, went ...more

Yea, I was looking through danscomp and a custom wheel is definitely out of my price range right now, But by the end of summer I should be able to get a new hub. The realization that I bent my sprocket on a low ledge going super slow is making me kind of paranoid. I might run four pegs and try to get decent at opposites first to avoid running through sprockets

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6/30/2014 1:31 PM

ironmaiden666 wrote:

Something with a bash guard until you can afford to switch your drive train for sure. And let's meet up later this week. I ...more

alright cool, and that sucks. It'd have to be before friday though. I've gotta work the july 4th on the parkway

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6/30/2014 1:31 PM

dave lawrence wrote:

Skworl.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SKWORL-SPROCKETS-/321424165019

Minnesota made, super solid and awesome.

Beat me to it this for sure ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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6/30/2014 2:00 PM

Just go with the guard sprocket then. Definitely switch to lhd when you get the chance though.

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6/30/2014 2:04 PM

HardBMX_Tim wrote:

Bigger the tooth, higher the gear ratio. Higher the gear ratio, harder it is to pedal, but you also accelerate much faster and ...more

higher top speed but lower acceleration.

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6/30/2014 2:05 PM

HardBMX_Tim wrote:

On my 11.5" bb with 25t guardless, there was barely any room to spare. 26t would have hit no doubt. If youre running a 28-30t ...more

you hit your 25tsprocket on dp's with an 11.5 bb height? you cant be serious

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6/30/2014 2:09 PM

Incorrect^

With 3 cranks on 28/9 I get going faster than say 5 cranks on 25/9. My friend who runs 30/9 gives just a few cranks to flow around the park, where my 25/9 friends have to pedal their asses off into the park to do the same

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6/30/2014 2:14 PM
Edited Date/Time: 6/30/2014 2:16 PM

HardBMX_Tim wrote:

Bigger the tooth, higher the gear ratio. Higher the gear ratio, harder it is to pedal, but you also accelerate much faster and ...more

tomdon wrote:

higher top speed but lower acceleration.

This, for example 28/9 accelerates slower but gives you a higher top speed than 25/9.

Also, "Bigger the tooth, higher the gear ratio" is wrong. For example, I run a 30T sprocket but I could have the same ratio as someone with a 27T sprocket. Depends on the ratio, not number of teeth.

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6/30/2014 2:15 PM

HardBMX_Tim wrote:

Incorrect^

With 3 cranks on 28/9 I get going faster than say 5 cranks on 25/9. My friend who runs 30/9 gives just a few ...more

Not sure if trolling or literally doesn't understand gear ratios.

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6/30/2014 2:19 PM

HardBMX_Tim wrote:

Incorrect^

With 3 cranks on 28/9 I get going faster than say 5 cranks on 25/9. My friend who runs 30/9 gives just a few ...more

Xxohioanxx wrote:

Not sure if trolling or literally doesn't understand gear ratios.

Pretty sure he has no idea what he's saying

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6/30/2014 2:22 PM

By bigger tooth count I meant with the same driver.

If a smaller ratio accelerates faster, then why does 1 crank of 28/9 result in me going faster than 1 crank of 25/9?

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6/30/2014 2:24 PM

HardBMX_Tim wrote:

Incorrect^

With 3 cranks on 28/9 I get going faster than say 5 cranks on 25/9. My friend who runs 30/9 gives just a few ...more

haha 28/9 it is. I went to hit purchase and found out the 25t sprocket isn't for sale until tomorrow.

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6/30/2014 2:24 PM

HardBMX_Tim wrote:

By bigger tooth count I meant with the same driver.

If a smaller ratio accelerates faster, then why does 1 crank of 28/9 ...more

Holy fucking shit... please read up on gear ratios for a bit then come back to this thread.

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6/30/2014 2:28 PM

wawa011 wrote:

haha 28/9 it is. I went to hit purchase and found out the 25t sprocket isn't for sale until tomorrow.

Heads up, now you'll have to add 3 links to your chain

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6/30/2014 2:32 PM

HardBMX_Tim wrote:

Incorrect^

With 3 cranks on 28/9 I get going faster than say 5 cranks on 25/9. My friend who runs 30/9 gives just a few ...more

wawa011 wrote:

haha 28/9 it is. I went to hit purchase and found out the 25t sprocket isn't for sale until tomorrow.

ironmaiden666 wrote:

Heads up, now you'll have to add 3 links to your chain

actually only 2 halflinks or 1 full link

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6/30/2014 2:41 PM

HardBMX_Tim wrote:

Incorrect^

With 3 cranks on 28/9 I get going faster than say 5 cranks on 25/9. My friend who runs 30/9 gives just a few ...more

wawa011 wrote:

haha 28/9 it is. I went to hit purchase and found out the 25t sprocket isn't for sale until tomorrow.

ironmaiden666 wrote:

Heads up, now you'll have to add 3 links to your chain

Thanks...i'll have to dig up the extra links that came with my chain.

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6/30/2014 2:43 PM

tomdon wrote:

actually only 2 halflinks or 1 full link

You're wrong, man. The bullshit I make up in my mind and spew out on the internet through my hairy ass is much more legitimate than what someone with years of product design and engineering experience says.

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