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I’m really intrigued by this frame. Is anyone riding it? What do you guys think of the specifications? Looks like more of a street style geo which is what I’m wanting to try out soon and I’ve always had A secret love affair With Standard Bykes....
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You guys are enablers lol in the near future I think I’m going to order one with the old school standard headtube gusset just for the looks.....
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I like it, I’ve wanted a standard before but 420 bucks for a frame is pushing it lol
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RonnieRawdawg wrote:
pretty standard geo...... run of the mill
Yeh I figured there were a lot of frames being made pretty similar. I just didn’t realize Standard had one (that wasn’t a custom build). I’ve been eyeing the Whammo, street sweeper and this....there’s just something special about Standard.. back in the day I always admired guys who rode them but I never had the dough. . . My riding is weak but I can financially afford one. . . Does that make me a poser? Lol
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BillyBigRigger wrote:
Yeh I figured there were a lot of frames being made pretty similar. I just didn’t realize Standard had one (that wasn’t a custom build). I’ve been eyeing the Whammo, street sweeper and this....there’s just something special about Standard.. back in the day I always admired guys who rode them but I never had the dough. . . My riding is weak but I can financially afford one. . . Does that make me a poser? Lol
Doesn't matter, you're still throwing money at the best part of the industry and that's great.
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BillyBigRigger wrote:
Yeh I figured there were a lot of frames being made pretty similar. I just didn’t realize Standard had one (that wasn’t a custom build). I’ve been eyeing the Whammo, street sweeper and this....there’s just something special about Standard.. back in the day I always admired guys who rode them but I never had the dough. . . My riding is weak but I can financially afford one. . . Does that make me a poser? Lol
nah i always wanted a trail boss i could buy one but i ride street so geo doesnt really help me 
when i started riding again first frame i was gunna grab was trail boss but then i learned GEO and was like nope
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RonnieRawdawg wrote:
pretty standard geo...... run of the mill
BillyBigRigger wrote:
Yeh I figured there were a lot of frames being made pretty similar. I just didn’t realize Standard had one (that wasn’t a custom build). I’ve been eyeing the Whammo, street sweeper and this....there’s just something special about Standard.. back in the day I always admired guys who rode them but I never had the dough. . . My riding is weak but I can financially afford one. . . Does that make me a poser? Lol
RonnieRawdawg wrote:
nah i always wanted a trail boss i could buy one but i ride street so geo doesnt really help me
Yes. The old Trail Boss was an iconic frame during the mid school era and I too have always wanted one recently but like you said the geo wasn’t what I want to try right now.
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I see this frame can be done with dual cable routing. I’m assuming the dual cables only come into play with a gyro system right? Can the odyssey m2 lever run dual cables in the “straight” configuration? Is there anything to be gained by doing that? I’m not interested in gyros at all. Only ran straight cables my whole life.
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BillyBigRigger wrote:
I see this frame can be done with dual cable routing. I’m assuming the dual cables only come into play with a gyro system right? Can the odyssey m2 lever run dual cables in the “straight” configuration? Is there anything to be gained by doing that? I’m not interested in gyros at all. Only ran straight cables my whole life.
You would lose a lot of braking performance. 2x the cable = 2x the friction, this is why gyros dont have as much stopping power as straight cables. Could be possible to rig up though..
I plan on rigging an M2 to function for both the back and front brake. Run 2 separate straight cables out of it. For shits and giggles
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HardBMX_Tim wrote:
You would lose a lot of braking performance. 2x the cable = 2x the friction, this is why gyros dont have as much stopping power as straight cables. Could be possible to rig up though..
I plan on rigging an M2 to function for both the back and front brake. Run 2 separate straight cables out of it. For shits and giggles
How would friction affect braking power? You're still giving the brake the same amount of force, unless the friction is massive. Surely it's flex in the gyro that reduces the braking power?
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p1p1092 wrote:
How would friction affect braking power? You're still giving the brake the same amount of force, unless the friction is massive. Surely it's flex in the gyro that reduces the braking power?
Friction plays a huge part in it, but you are right that there is more parts in a gyro set up that flex.
More cable(s) -> more friction, -> more sluggish pull in the lever
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Idk how y'all are setting up your gyros, but my dual cable set up seems to lock harder than my Linear Quik Slic straight cable dif..
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HondaCRFRacer wrote:
Idk how y'all are setting up your gyros, but my dual cable set up seems to lock harder than my Linear Quik Slic straight cable dif..
That's what I was thinking. Well lubed quality cables have little friction. And friction aside, a high quality dual cable setup will offer a more solid feel when dialed in properly as the dual cables share the force applied the lever and will stretch less. Not aiming this at Tim, but I assume most detangler haters wanted to try it once, cheaped out and got a G3 kit, it felt like shit and that was that. I'm not saying the G3 doesn't work, but it's no where near as good as a full dual cable setup with a CNC'd rotor.
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HondaCRFRacer wrote:
Idk how y'all are setting up your gyros, but my dual cable set up seems to lock harder than my Linear Quik Slic straight cable dif..
jbales wrote:
That's what I was thinking. Well lubed quality cables have little friction. And friction aside, a high quality dual cable setup will offer a more solid feel when dialed in properly as the dual cables share the force applied the lever and will stretch less. Not aiming this at Tim, but I assume most detangler haters wanted to try it once, cheaped out and got a G3 kit, it felt like shit and that was that. I'm not saying the G3 doesn't work, but it's no where near as good as a full dual cable setup with a CNC'd rotor.
Not to get this thread derailed too much, but I have no interest in a gyro. I will never throw more than a single bar spin. I can’t do tail whips. I saw that this Resonator frame is made(or not If requested) with double cable hangers through the seat tube to be run with dual cables. My question more specifically should be: Does anyone run dual cables without a gyro? I’m thinking no, so if I were to order this frame and I don’t run gyro then dual cable built in adjustments on the frame is pointless.....unless dual cables ran linear are a lot more solid than a single linear. I’m not around a lot of BMXers so nobody to ask....sorry if this question seems stupid.
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Not to get this thread derailed too much, but I have no interest in a gyro. I will never throw more than a single bar spin. I can’t do tail whips. I saw that this Resonator frame is made(or not If requested) with double cable hangers through the seat tube to be run with dual cables. My question more specifically should be: Does anyone run dual cables without a gyro? I’m thinking no, so if I were to order this frame and I don’t run gyro then dual cable built in adjustments on the frame is pointless.....unless dual cables ran linear are a lot more solid than a single linear. I’m not around a lot of BMXers so nobody to ask....sorry if this question seems stupid.
The simple answer is no. It's not the way it works and if you never plan on running a gyro, there's no need to get the through seat tube guides.
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HondaCRFRacer wrote:
Idk how y'all are setting up your gyros, but my dual cable set up seems to lock harder than my Linear Quik Slic straight cable dif..
jbales wrote:
That's what I was thinking. Well lubed quality cables have little friction. And friction aside, a high quality dual cable setup will offer a more solid feel when dialed in properly as the dual cables share the force applied the lever and will stretch less. Not aiming this at Tim, but I assume most detangler haters wanted to try it once, cheaped out and got a G3 kit, it felt like shit and that was that. I'm not saying the G3 doesn't work, but it's no where near as good as a full dual cable setup with a CNC'd rotor.
My set up was;
Odyssey M2 lever
34R Orto plate
Odyssey GSX(or whatev) sealed bearing detangler
2x Tree Power SB Teflon cables
Stolen Knuckles london mod
& I ran both Odyssey Evo 2s and Tektro 950s at some point.
It was a great set up & all, but as soon as I replaced it with a linear cable, my braking performance increased incredibly and my lever pulled noticeably smoother.
That being said, I never worked out my hands at the time, maybe I could have strengthened my grip and gotten better use out of the gyro.
Only reason gyros are whack is because they don't work as good and are significantly heavier & more expensive. I do believe they serve a purpose in the world of park riding, but most kids that can't whip/bar get them just to have them. Myself being one of those kids at one point lol.
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jbales wrote:
That's what I was thinking. Well lubed quality cables have little friction. And friction aside, a high quality dual cable setup will offer a more solid feel when dialed in properly as the dual cables share the force applied the lever and will stretch less. Not aiming this at Tim, but I assume most detangler haters wanted to try it once, cheaped out and got a G3 kit, it felt like shit and that was that. I'm not saying the G3 doesn't work, but it's no where near as good as a full dual cable setup with a CNC'd rotor.
BillyBigRigger wrote:
Not to get this thread derailed too much, but I have no interest in a gyro. I will never throw more than a single bar spin. I can’t do tail whips. I saw that this Resonator frame is made(or not If requested) with double cable hangers through the seat tube to be run with dual cables. My question more specifically should be: Does anyone run dual cables without a gyro? I’m thinking no, so if I were to order this frame and I don’t run gyro then dual cable built in adjustments on the frame is pointless.....unless dual cables ran linear are a lot more solid than a single linear. I’m not around a lot of BMXers so nobody to ask....sorry if this question seems stupid.
jbales wrote:
The simple answer is no. It's not the way it works and if you never plan on running a gyro, there's no need to get the through seat tube guides.
Thanks Jbales.
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HardBMX_Tim wrote:
My set up was;
Odyssey M2 lever
34R Orto plate
Odyssey GSX(or whatev) sealed bearing detangler
2x Tree Power SB Teflon cables
Stolen Knuckles london mod
& I ran both Odyssey Evo 2s and Tektro 950s at some point.
It was a great set up & all, but as soon as I replaced it with a linear cable, my braking performance increased incredibly and my lever pulled noticeably smoother.
That being said, I never worked out my hands at the time, maybe I could have strengthened my grip and gotten better use out of the gyro.
Only reason gyros are whack is because they don't work as good and are significantly heavier & more expensive. I do believe they serve a purpose in the world of park riding, but most kids that can't whip/bar get them just to have them. Myself being one of those kids at one point lol.
I could never do enough barspins or tailwhips to warrant a gyro. I just think it looks great and my OCD can't have a flapping around cable sticking out of the front of the bike. 
