Strength (do you even lift?)

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12/28/2012 11:07 PM

I have a relatively heavy bike lwhich is like 28 pounds. I lift a shitload and an easily lift 50 barbells. But on a bike I feel weak and can't pull up easily and can't scoop my back end up easily. Is there specific workouts I could do to get more lift and shit.

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12/28/2012 11:08 PM

I rode a 29 lbs bike when I weighed like 110 lbs. Just ride more, you'll get used to it. Nothing will help you more than riding.

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12/28/2012 11:09 PM

I still ride a 28lb just ride

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12/28/2012 11:55 PM

Just ride. Over time you will get more comfortable. I thought my bike was heavy when I first got it and couldn't even hop. Then about a week or so, I just got the feel for it was able to hop curbs and stuff.

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12/29/2012 12:00 AM

work your thighs...i have huge thighs and shoulders, i can bunny hop probably bar height and i'm only 5'8' and not exactly athletic.

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12/29/2012 2:15 AM

BMX is ALL technique. Just because you're big, doesn't mean you'll ride better. e.g. Broc Raiford can go head on with Gabe Brooks in a hop contest even though he obviously has less muscle. But if you do have good technique, being big is a bonus e.g. Brad Simms, Gabe Brooks.

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12/29/2012 9:17 AM
Edited Date/Time: 12/29/2012 9:19 AM

BMX is many factors, not just technique, killer.

Top pro's workout, they have different ways of doing so but they do train and train a lot they do...

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12/29/2012 11:12 AM

It's more about technique, form, and leverage than strength. That's why little kids can still shred. It always looks weird but I think that's more because of their height/limb size than strength. Also why little young skaters look weird even though skateboarding doesn't take nearly as much strength as bmx would.

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12/29/2012 11:23 AM

being "good" at bmx is all about technique and form, to actually get over the bigger obstacles though you need the strength, hence why most racetracks have 2 lines for the smaller guys who can't get over the bigger shit...same goes for the skatepark, there's a reason you don't see the average kids getting over the 20 foot boxes and 5 foot rails, they just don't have the strength to do it.

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12/29/2012 11:25 AM

Honestly, spending more time on your bike and being motivated to better your abilities will go further than lifting. When lifting, you're only moving in certain ways. If you could mimic the movements, it would be better. Like weighing down a second bike with 50 lbs and ride that for a week, then get back on your reg bike, you'll notice a difference.

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12/29/2012 11:26 AM

Didn't read but no lifting is gay. No reason unless you are trying to look "buff" lol

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12/29/2012 11:30 AM

muscle mass isn't as important as muscle memory and stamina...Grizz, i know you did some weight training to race, right? I mean, we weren't doing 600 lbs leg presses or anything but you did some sort of training to help with arm pump and mid-moto fade, right?

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12/29/2012 11:31 AM

Chuck8273 wrote:

Honestly, spending more time on your bike and being motivated to better your abilities will go further than lifting. When lifting, you're only moving in certain ways. If you could mimic the movements, it would be better. Like weighing down a second bike with 50 lbs and ride that for a week, then get back on your reg bike, you'll notice a difference.

yes, yes, yes...i love that last part. When we used to train on the MTB's we'd put it in a super high gear and pedal a course to get our legs used to have hard it was to pedal, after about a week of that shit your legs though a 44/15 ratio was cake.

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12/29/2012 11:36 AM

Have to get use to it. and practice hopping higher

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12/29/2012 11:40 AM

sbc785 wrote:

muscle mass isn't as important as muscle memory and stamina...Grizz, i know you did some weight training to race, right? I mean, we weren't doing 600 lbs leg presses or anything but you did some sort of training to help with arm pump and mid-moto fade, right?

No I don't lift at all. Just straight cardio. I don't get arm pump because I ride a lot. To me the best way to be in shape to ride a bike is to ride your bike wink If I can't ride though I will run or ride BMX so I don't get winded. I tried lifting weights one time and I got arm pump next time I rode so I said fuuuuuuck that.

So as far as BMX is concerned I think it would be even more stupid to lift weights.

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12/29/2012 11:46 AM
Edited Date/Time: 12/29/2012 11:47 AM

KTM gave us a weight trainer to come in and work with us, we had to do arms/shoulders thighs/calves...we didn't do any heavy lifting but we would do 30 x 2 reps with 10-15 lbs. upper body and everything else was 50 x 2 reps of 50 lbs...then the fucking treadmill for an hour, i hated that thing...oh, the stationary bike too, i loved that because it was in front of a screen that would put us in a virtual Marathon that we'd be on for like 2 hours.

as for arm pump, once you start doing 30 minute + 2 lap moto's every weekend, arm pump will start showing it's ugly face...and i rode 4 days a week doing 5 30 minute motos a day (which is a little overkill).

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12/29/2012 11:54 AM

If I lift anything it's my body weight. Push ups or pull ups. I desperately need a mountain bike or even better a road bike. But I can't afford it. I even get a really good discount on Diamondback but they still cost a lot for the good stuff. BMX helps a lot though.

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12/29/2012 11:59 AM

road bikes are great to have when it comes to cross training in the spring, you should get a stationary bike tho, you can find those for $30 on Craigslist.

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12/29/2012 12:45 PM

i dont think weight training is going to give you the same benefits as riding more.

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12/29/2012 1:49 PM

lmao it has nothing to do with strength, its just learning how to distribute your weight, the bike will follow where your body goes, you don't have to try man handling it to do everything, that wont work. When you pick up the front you dont just pick i up using your forearms, you lean back a bit to use your weight.

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12/29/2012 1:54 PM

kikcer2 wrote:

i dont think weight training is going to give you the same benefits as riding more.

True. But what about when u cant ride? I used to work out 4-5 days a week and barely ride and expected to get on my bike and hop over a bus. Thats when learned that I needed to put in more work on my bike. muscle is definitely a factor in bmx but bike control is the key. The more u ride, the more u develop those key muscles needed to hop and do other things. Right now riding is my priority and working out is reserved for days like today (fuckin snow). When I first started to ride I noticed that most riders had big forearms and broad shoulders. Riding your bike everyday will do this to u. Practicing bunnyhops regularly got my arms swollen like I was hitting the gym. I had the muscle but once I became more used to my bike, everythng started to take off and I began hopping higher and holding manuals longer. I would stick to body weight calisthenics (pull ups, push ups, etc) cause I dont think lifting is necessary unless u wanna build mass. Yoga is great also but the #1 priority is RIDE.

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12/29/2012 3:18 PM

I used to ride a 30KG mongoose sniper for like 3 years cause i couldn't afford a new bike.. i got a 11.5KG Cult for my first good bike, and the change is absolutely enormous. I did a 360 how i would 360 my mongoose and went flying and dipped like a mother fucker cause my rear end used to be super heavy.

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12/29/2012 8:00 PM

i ride a 29 pound bike and weigh just a little more than you do. its not the weight its whatever your body gets used to

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12/29/2012 8:02 PM

Vik wrote:

lmao it has nothing to do with strength, its just learning how to distribute your weight, the bike will follow where your body goes, you don't have to try man handling it to do everything, that wont work. When you pick up the front you dont just pick i up using your forearms, you lean back a bit to use your weight.

this.

I've never lifted a day in my life (aside from physical therapy for my knee & dumb gym class)

and I can hop over bar height. it's all technique, muscle just gives you a slight advantage THINKING you can whip the bike around easier.. but if you don't have the proper technique then it doesn't matter

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12/29/2012 8:09 PM

chase hawk looks like a 12 year old and has no problem riding a bicycle. weights are for football players

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