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9/29/2013 4:31 PM

What do you guys think about supporting Local Bike stores? Wouldn't it just be better to buy parts online? I was thinking about supporting Local Bike stores yesterday and I came to the conclusion that they are pretty much a middle man. So if "X" company sells a part for 120 bucks you go over to your LBS and ask them to order that part and they'll sell it to you at 130+ bucks.... Is it really worth supporting your LBS?

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9/29/2013 4:38 PM

Only reason i dont buy from my LBS is because the guys that work there a dumb fucks and cant do shit right to save their lives

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9/29/2013 4:47 PM

handlebar-to-face wrote:

Only reason i dont buy from my LBS is because the guys that work there a dumb fucks and cant do shit right to save their lives

But hypothetically speaking if your local LBS provided what you need, would you buy from them over lets say..... Danscomp?
What if your local LBS didn't have bmx parts but wouldn't mind ordering them for you with a deposit required would you go to your LBS?

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9/29/2013 4:49 PM

I would buy stuff from my lbs but they only have like one bmx frame seriously the guy has had it for like 4 years still haven't sold it. and chains and stuff like that the rest you have to order but i'd rather order from like danscomp because it's cheaper maybe if they had the stuff i want in the store so i don't have to wait for it but nope he really only sells like road bikes and stuff like that.

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9/29/2013 4:51 PM

handlebar-to-face wrote:

Only reason i dont buy from my LBS is because the guys that work there a dumb fucks and cant do shit right to save their lives

Aav1996 wrote:

But hypothetically speaking if your local LBS provided what you need, would you buy from them over lets say..... Danscomp?
What if your local LBS didn't have bmx parts but wouldn't mind ordering them for you with a deposit required would you go to your LBS?

Probably not because bike shops tend to mark up prices alot but dans is also basically also a bike shop so they're kind of a middle man also but just dont mark up their prices as much from what ive seen

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9/29/2013 4:52 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/29/2013 4:53 PM

Mikel8149 wrote:

I would buy stuff from my lbs but they only have like one bmx frame seriously the guy has had it for like 4 years still haven't sold it. and chains and stuff like that the rest you have to order but i'd rather order from like danscomp because it's cheaper maybe if they had the stuff i want in the store so i don't have to wait for it but nope he really only sells like road bikes and stuff like that.

What's the difference though? Between buying from Dans and your LBs.... you still have to wait from both of those stores to get your stuff. Although Danscomp is cheaper but Danscomp can't offer the service your LBS can offer.... Danscomp doesn't say hey how's it going johnny you ever get so and so to go on a date with you?

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9/29/2013 4:54 PM

handlebar-to-face wrote:

Probably not because bike shops tend to mark up prices alot but dans is also basically also a bike shop so they're kind of a middle man also but just dont mark up their prices as much from what ive seen

Well they gotta make a living, I think Danscomp gets bundle packs that's why things might be cheaper over at Danscomp. So you wouldn't pay a couple extra bucks for service?

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9/29/2013 4:55 PM

I think it is good to, but there isnt much of a point to just letting them order it other than to help them. If you can afford to, yeah, go for it, but it isnt worth breaking the bank to give them an extra sale.

If i had a shop that sold BMX i would probably go to it. Heck id work at it. Or even own it. haha I think BMX should be more available than having to go online constantly.

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9/29/2013 5:01 PM

Aav1996 wrote:

What's the difference though? Between buying from Dans and your LBs.... you still have to wait from both of those stores to get your stuff. Although Danscomp is cheaper but Danscomp can't offer the service your LBS can offer.... Danscomp doesn't say hey how's it going johnny you ever get so and so to go on a date with you?

I think it really depends on the shop for how friendly they are. Some i have been to are so kind, others can be bastards. I honestly think it is better to support small business in general, but you cant always afford to, or even it isnt available at all. I think that is a big problem, expecially where i live. No one knows what BMX is, i have come to a new conclusion, for the 10 years before i rode, there were like 5 people that rode, and they hardly ever did, all they did was smoke weed, and the rest of the kids only sat inside and played xbox. That is what the adults became accustomed to. Either that or just being a boring kid. So when someone is doing something new, they get scared and upset about the change.

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9/29/2013 5:05 PM

Mikel8149 wrote:

I would buy stuff from my lbs but they only have like one bmx frame seriously the guy has had it for like 4 years still haven't sold it. and chains and stuff like that the rest you have to order but i'd rather order from like danscomp because it's cheaper maybe if they had the stuff i want in the store so i don't have to wait for it but nope he really only sells like road bikes and stuff like that.

Aav1996 wrote:

What's the difference though? Between buying from Dans and your LBs.... you still have to wait from both of those stores to get your stuff. Although Danscomp is cheaper but Danscomp can't offer the service your LBS can offer.... Danscomp doesn't say hey how's it going johnny you ever get so and so to go on a date with you?

I can get stuff faster and i can put the stuff on my self and dans has more of a selection i probably would pay extra if it was already in store i mean i understand he probably doesn't get that much people wanting to buy bmx parts but i'm saying it would be better having stuff already there and it's like 20 or so minutes or so from my house traffic sucks so gas = extra money and i have to go up there order it and go home wait a couple of days and go back up there and get it he seems like a cool guy but he is really full of him self too so i don't really care about talking to him really.

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9/29/2013 5:09 PM

Aav1996 wrote:

Well they gotta make a living, I think Danscomp gets bundle packs that's why things might be cheaper over at Danscomp. So you wouldn't pay a couple extra bucks for service?

Yeah i understand they have to make money but they mark up their parts up the ass, my LBS sells grips you get for $5 for $20 and even sells perfect 10s for $100 and they have a cult cco1 for $600. and personally i wouldn't pay them to fix my bike because when i first went there a few years back they wanted to charge me 20 to put a chain on, neither would i pay them to order parts because from what ive heard about them they always order the wrong thing or take like a month to finally order it

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9/29/2013 6:35 PM

Here's the thing about the price difference. Dans charges shipping, you're LBS doesn't. So say when I got my FBM bars from Fat Tire Cycles, they cost 75 bucks. Dans had them for only $68, but shipping made them $80 or $85.

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9/29/2013 6:45 PM

Collin_McClenahan wrote:

Here's the thing about the price difference. Dans charges shipping, you're LBS doesn't. So say when I got my FBM bars from Fat Tire Cycles, they cost 75 bucks. Dans had them for only $68, but shipping made them $80 or $85.

Your LBS probably includes the shipping somewhere in the price and Danscomp has promotional codes like 15% off a certain amount or free shipping on orders over x amount.

What would you prefer Lbs or online stores like Dans?

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9/29/2013 6:49 PM

I support them because I get 20 percent off on pree much everything. Their regular prices are supper high but the 20% evens it out to about American prices...

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9/29/2013 6:52 PM

I buy all my stuff from my shop, but that's also cause I work there & get discounts and shit. It's definitely worth supporting your local shop. I know if you buy all the stuff from the shop I'm at, we'll lace your wheels for free. if you come in with like a rim & spokes & buy a hub from us right then and there, we'll give you a small discount. But if you bought all your shit from danscomp or something else and come in wanting us to build it up, we'll charge full price. It's the small things that count.

Plus is danscomp gonna true your wheels? let you come in & pump your tires up, even use tools occasionally as long as you put them back and are trustworthy? Cut your bars/fork steerer tube down? Fix a snapped chain? nope.

Also it really helps seeing some parts in person before you buy, take hub guards for one. You can see them online, but you can only tell how big they are compared to your hub flange or if it'll even fit if you see it in person.



Another huge factor is the convenience of it being at the shop already. Now, a shop isn't gonna have EVERYTHING, but it'll have enough to get by. Like grips & tires are usually well stocked, but forks/frames obviously won't be. The market is too big, but they can be ordered of course. But if it's something you need & they have it there, then you don't have to wait. I remember one night at the bike shop, a kid came in and needed something fixed on his bike. Upon fixing it, we noticed his frame was cracked really badly. He saw we had an S&M BTM on the wall and was like oh well I guess just throw that on. I asked him if he wanted to look through magazines for any other frame, he was like nah I don't care, the BTM's probably fine, just put that on & anything else it needs to fit my stuff. If we didn't have that there, he wouldn't have bought it obviously and probably would've just got the first frame he saw on danscomp or something

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9/29/2013 6:56 PM

Collin_McClenahan wrote:

Here's the thing about the price difference. Dans charges shipping, you're LBS doesn't. So say when I got my FBM bars from Fat Tire Cycles, they cost 75 bucks. Dans had them for only $68, but shipping made them $80 or $85.

Aav1996 wrote:

Your LBS probably includes the shipping somewhere in the price and Danscomp has promotional codes like 15% off a certain amount or free shipping on orders over x amount.

What would you prefer Lbs or online stores like Dans?

I much prefer an LBS, but don't have an LBS. I got those bars from a shop 2 hours away because I was near there at the time. But the dudes there all know me and are cool, so I buy from them every chance I get.

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9/29/2013 7:04 PM

Supporting a local store can help build a scene. But local stores, first and foremost, should sell customer service. Many don't.

Spend your money where you want.

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9/29/2013 7:54 PM

Supporting local local bike shop?

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9/29/2013 8:01 PM

motogrizz wrote:

Supporting local local bike shop?

Theyre double the local so you know they're good

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9/29/2013 8:03 PM

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9/29/2013 8:16 PM

My LBS is a bunch of 20 something fags who ride triathlon bikes and old people. They treat me like a piece of shit, and overcharged me for everything I've bought from them

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9/29/2013 8:20 PM

sundaybmxRR wrote:

I buy all my stuff from my shop, but that's also cause I work there & get discounts and shit. It's definitely worth supporting your local shop. I know if you buy all the stuff from the shop I'm at, we'll lace your wheels for free. if you come in with like a rim & spokes & buy a hub from us right then and there, we'll give you a small discount. But if you bought all your shit from danscomp or something else and come in wanting us to build it up, we'll charge full price. It's the small things that count.

Plus is danscomp gonna true your wheels? let you come in & pump your tires up, even use tools occasionally as long as you put them back and are trustworthy? Cut your bars/fork steerer tube down? Fix a snapped chain? nope.

Also it really helps seeing some parts in person before you buy, take hub guards for one. You can see them online, but you can only tell how big they are compared to your hub flange or if it'll even fit if you see it in person.



Another huge factor is the convenience of it being at the shop already. Now, a shop isn't gonna have EVERYTHING, but it'll have enough to get by. Like grips & tires are usually well stocked, but forks/frames obviously won't be. The market is too big, but they can be ordered of course. But if it's something you need & they have it there, then you don't have to wait. I remember one night at the bike shop, a kid came in and needed something fixed on his bike. Upon fixing it, we noticed his frame was cracked really badly. He saw we had an S&M BTM on the wall and was like oh well I guess just throw that on. I asked him if he wanted to look through magazines for any other frame, he was like nah I don't care, the BTM's probably fine, just put that on & anything else it needs to fit my stuff. If we didn't have that there, he wouldn't have bought it obviously and probably would've just got the first frame he saw on danscomp or something

First of all, if you were at my local, I would actually go there. Hell, I'd land hard sideways on some walmart wheels just to give you a wheel to challenge you a bit, haha.

I gave them a chance. I bought my 48's from where I could find the parts. I explained how I got the parts and why I had to get them that way. Wanted $1.00 per spoke if I bought them there, plus $1.00 per spoke to lace them. That's $96.00 for stainless spokes, and another $96.00 to lace?! Nope. The second time was when I went to price the frame I have. Quoted me Just under $400 for a Redline G7 frame, 21.25tt. That is crazy, since without discounts, Albes had it for $319. Now, with shipping, that's still not anywhere close to$400. He also said that was the best price he could give me, that it was just above his cost. I Call BS on that. I got mine for about $300, and ordered Black Ribs to red BSD's at the same time. Got a deal on both!

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9/29/2013 8:37 PM

Chuck8273 wrote:

First of all, if you were at my local, I would actually go there. Hell, I'd land hard sideways on some walmart wheels just to give you a wheel to challenge you a bit, haha.

I gave them a chance. I bought my 48's from where I could find the parts. I explained how I got the parts and why I had to get them that way. Wanted $1.00 per spoke if I bought them there, plus $1.00 per spoke to lace them. That's $96.00 for stainless spokes, and another $96.00 to lace?! Nope. The second time was when I went to price the frame I have. Quoted me Just under $400 for a Redline G7 frame, 21.25tt. That is crazy, since without discounts, Albes had it for $319. Now, with shipping, that's still not anywhere close to$400. He also said that was the best price he could give me, that it was just above his cost. I Call BS on that. I got mine for about $300, and ordered Black Ribs to red BSD's at the same time. Got a deal on both!

Only if you keep the walmart wheel clean! I hate working on walmart stuff/junk, because most the times they're dirty as fuck and are not well taken care of.


But $1 sounds right, as long as they're DT swiss ones anyway. That's what we have, but we also have Shadow & Primo spokes for 50-55cents a piece.. $1 per spoke to lace them though? that's ridiculous. I know here we usually do it for $15-$20, sometimes a bit cheaper though if the person it's for is one of the shop owner's good friends or something.

And yeah that's also a load of crap for the frame being that much, if it's $319, I could see maybe $330-340, but just under $400 is a lotttt even when marking the price up from manufacturer's cost to retail price

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9/29/2013 8:42 PM

Buy what you want from your local bike shop , if you don't like anything , then buy it online.

Get what you like at your convience , I've spent well over 2 grand easily at my LBS so they treat me good , but I can do most basic maintence by myself and get stuff online.

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9/29/2013 8:53 PM

Brayden_Buckingham wrote:

Buy what you want from your local bike shop , if you don't like anything , then buy it online.

Get what you like at your convience , I've spent well over 2 grand easily at my LBS so they treat me good , but I can do most basic maintence by myself and get stuff online.

That's what I forgot to mention. I bought two Redline completes there. A Column and a Complex. A $600 complete and an $1100 complete. And he's the only one working there, so it's not like he didn't know me. I spent all that money within three months time, then spent $650 on my frame and wheels at Albes. Hell, from November 2011 to the last week in January 2012, spent just over $3,000 on bikes and bike parts. As soon as I'm not under employed, I'm building my wife a custom, or getting her whatever complete she wants. Can't wait!

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9/30/2013 9:15 AM

I'm willing to pay a little more to shop locally but there is a limit. Service is worth money, but I'm not going to get raped on the price or put up with crap service. At some point it becomes charity.

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9/30/2013 9:29 AM

i dont think its bad to support a local shop at all. sure, ordering parts online is a little cheaper, but youre supporting a small business if you buy from the shop. i rarely buy from my shop in town here in new paltz because the shops here are basically just road and mountain bikes; they dont really know much about bmx. but if you have a local shop that knows their stuff and are supporting bmx along with other types of riding, i see no reason why it would be a bad thing to support them.

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9/30/2013 10:03 AM

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9/30/2013 12:37 PM

Financially it can be cheaper to buy online, BUT then you are not supporting your local economy as much, AND you don't get the parts right away.

You also cannot look at them/see them/hold them/touch them.

And if you go to a shop, look at them, and buy online, you are a dick, and you waste their time doing that.

When I worked in a shop, that was a HUGE pet peeve.

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9/30/2013 2:12 PM

my lbs only sells exposer and haro stuff so.... I buy online

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