Contrary to everything I've read on forums or that I'd get in a response if I made a thread asking if I should get them or not, they've taken quote a beating from me and have yet to fail me once. I've done 6ft + drops with them, learned whips and flat whips with them, my flat threes pretty much always bash my front wheel, I hopped an 11 stair with them I think, and a lot more stuff but I think my point is clear. I also re laced them 3 times if that matters. I don't understand why everyone has to make such a big deal saying that they'll break super easily and that no one should ride them or that their stupid or whatever.