Trans Colors?, rawing and keeping weld marks? WHAT CAN I DO??

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2/12/2014 7:09 PM
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sup, i got a pair of trans red wtp bars, im not too picky on colors but ive had this colorway going for too long so it's time for a change, im planning to raw my bars (cause i love these bars and dont wanna get new ones) but is there anyway i can raw them while keeping the sick looking weld marks?(like the black stuff from the burning during the weld process) i know sand paper would probably sand the marks off but what about paint strip, would that effect the weld marks? Any suggestions on what i can do? any true thoughts will help, thanks!

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2/12/2014 7:12 PM

Get them sandblasted. Preferably the best way. Stripper works but ive seen it tint the metal to a really ugly color on my friends' parts.

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2/12/2014 7:18 PM

Sandbaslting or sand paper will lose the marks. not sure how WTP does the burn marks but them burns may be just paint as well.

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2/12/2014 7:20 PM

Brokenbmx wrote:
Sandbaslting or sand paper will lose the marks. not sure how WTP does the burn marks but them burns may be just paint as well. ...more

Brokenbmx wrote:
Sandbaslting or sand paper will lose the marks. not sure how WTP does the burn marks but them burns may be just paint as well.

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Ive seen blasted frames have the marks. Gotta be done professionally I guess. Gotta be super careful to remove the paint and only the paint

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2/12/2014 7:22 PM

Brokenbmx wrote:
Sandbaslting or sand paper will lose the marks. not sure how WTP does the burn marks but them burns may be just paint as well. ...more

Brokenbmx wrote:
Sandbaslting or sand paper will lose the marks. not sure how WTP does the burn marks but them burns may be just paint as well.

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HardBMX_Tim wrote:
Ive seen blasted frames have the marks. Gotta be done professionally I guess. Gotta be super careful to remove the paint and ...more

HardBMX_Tim wrote:
Ive seen blasted frames have the marks. Gotta be done professionally I guess. Gotta be super careful to remove the paint and only the paint

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yea like a soft bead or sand. not to powerfull. everytime i've sandblasted its polished right to a dull silver

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2/12/2014 7:35 PM

^^^^ that i had a shop sandblast a frame and forks once and it just makes them a dull silver color, paint strippers the way to go

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2/12/2014 9:42 PM

Brokenbmx wrote:
Sandbaslting or sand paper will lose the marks. not sure how WTP does the burn marks but them burns may be just paint as well. ...more

Brokenbmx wrote:
Sandbaslting or sand paper will lose the marks. not sure how WTP does the burn marks but them burns may be just paint as well.

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HardBMX_Tim wrote:
Ive seen blasted frames have the marks. Gotta be done professionally I guess. Gotta be super careful to remove the paint and ...more

HardBMX_Tim wrote:
Ive seen blasted frames have the marks. Gotta be done professionally I guess. Gotta be super careful to remove the paint and only the paint

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Brokenbmx wrote:
yea like a soft bead or sand. not to powerfull. everytime i've sandblasted its polished right to a dull silver

Brokenbmx wrote:
yea like a soft bead or sand. not to powerfull. everytime i've sandblasted its polished right to a dull silver

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Bead blast is the way to go.

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2/13/2014 6:31 AM

Just use aircraft stripper found at walmart and steel wool and a metal bristle brush. Plus some gloves because the stripper burns. Ive done it this way many times.

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skubasteve wrote:
Just use aircraft stripper found at walmart and steel wool and a metal bristle brush. Plus some gloves because the stripper ...more

skubasteve wrote:
Just use aircraft stripper found at walmart and steel wool and a metal bristle brush. Plus some gloves because the stripper burns. Ive done it this way many times.

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But will the black weld marks stay on?

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2/13/2014 4:14 PM

Yeah they will stay on. Ive done a few frames just like this and ive never had a problem. Just spray the frame and let it sit. Take some mild steel wool and rub off the powder and use the brush around the brake post, bb, etc.

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2/13/2014 4:16 PM

skubasteve wrote:
Yeah they will stay on. Ive done a few frames just like this and ive never had a problem. Just spray the frame and let it sit. ...more

skubasteve wrote:
Yeah they will stay on. Ive done a few frames just like this and ive never had a problem. Just spray the frame and let it sit. Take some mild steel wool and rub off the powder and use the brush around the brake post, bb, etc.

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How long did it take you to do a frame? And can you post a link/pic of exactly what you used?

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2/13/2014 4:45 PM

Here is my 22" Holmes I did a while back. The tubing on this frame was polished before they painted it so it came out nice.
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and my 24" dirtbike. This one had a flat clear so the marks aren't that noticeable and it was taken with a crappy cell phone. The tubing on this frame was rather rough. Just polished around the welds and just rough metal between welds.

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I used Klean Strip aircraft paint remover
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-CAN-Klean-Strip-AIRCRAFT-REMOVER-Paint-Stripper-EAR-322-/121148572142?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item1c350481ee&vxp=mtr
and a brush similar to this. The one pictured is a brass bristle, I used a metal bristle.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Forney-70491-Wire-Scratch-Brush-Brass-with-Curved-Wood-Handle-8-5-8-Inch-.006-Inch/33889263

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2/13/2014 4:49 PM

How long did it take you?

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2/13/2014 4:57 PM

USe soft bead! That is your best chance! It might work with the stripper but it can mess it up! That being said i don't think that the bars have real weld marks anyway

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2/13/2014 5:06 PM

I think about an hour

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2/13/2014 6:57 PM

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USe soft bead! That is your best chance! It might work with the stripper but it can mess it up! That being said i don't think ...more

DeviantBMX123 wrote:
USe soft bead! That is your best chance! It might work with the stripper but it can mess it up! That being said i don't think that the bars have real weld marks anyway

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Do they fake weld bars or something instead of real weld them?

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DeviantBMX123 wrote:
USe soft bead! That is your best chance! It might work with the stripper but it can mess it up! That being said i don't think ...more

DeviantBMX123 wrote:
USe soft bead! That is your best chance! It might work with the stripper but it can mess it up! That being said i don't think that the bars have real weld marks anyway

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Fondue wrote:
Do they fake weld bars or something instead of real weld them?

Fondue wrote:
Do they fake weld bars or something instead of real weld them?

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No but post weld heat treated parts (like these I believe) dont have weld marks since its welded then heat treated.

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DeviantBMX123 wrote:
USe soft bead! That is your best chance! It might work with the stripper but it can mess it up! That being said i don't think ...more

DeviantBMX123 wrote:
USe soft bead! That is your best chance! It might work with the stripper but it can mess it up! That being said i don't think that the bars have real weld marks anyway

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Fondue wrote:
Do they fake weld bars or something instead of real weld them?

Fondue wrote:
Do they fake weld bars or something instead of real weld them?

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Yup they super glue them together then draw the weld marks on with crayons

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2/13/2014 7:11 PM

I used paint stripper on my last frame and all the weld marks stayed

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2/13/2014 7:27 PM

Effting wrote:
I used paint stripper on my last frame and all the weld marks stayed

Effting wrote:
I used paint stripper on my last frame and all the weld marks stayed

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this ^^^^ plus if u drench them with stripper u can hose off the paint and it takes some time for the stripper to settle in so be patient. weld mark stay on. sandblast is just a pain in the butt if u dont have the tools to do it.

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2/14/2014 9:51 AM

Those weld marks are actually heat from the welds, and they can be sanded away. I have done paint stripper, and I had to be rough around the welds so I lost them.

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