Tree Rear Hub

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4/17/2015 7:47 AM

Im into rebuilding hubs and building wheels and whatnot.

Ive been looking into Tree hubs and Bsd hubs.

After a little research... simply looking at the tree hub on danscomp, I noticed that the pawl/spring system that tree uses is the same as joytech hubs. 3 pawls, single wraparound spring. No doubt its a reliable system, but its not nearly as good as shadow, BSD, gsport, profile, madera and basically any cassete hubs that use individual springs.

But the tree hub is still $80 more than most hubs. I dont understand, sick design, sick company. But I want to see a more original hub design. Please explain the price... This hub should be $140-$160 if that...

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4/17/2015 8:04 AM

The machining so they can use the twigs and berries spokes is more expensive than doing regular ones. It's also way better in terms of wheel trueness and tension.

You're not paying for the engagement, like, say, a Profile hub, you're getting a true 14mm hub that's light and will prolong the amount of time before you need to true your wheel.

That's pretty much it, and it's not bad, like you said. And they easily could do a different driver and stuff, but it would force the hub to be larger, which is more difficult and even more expensive.

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4/17/2015 8:11 AM

MaximusBikes wrote:

The machining so they can use the twigs and berries spokes is more expensive than doing regular ones. It's also way better in terms of wheel trueness and tension.

You're not paying for the engagement, like, say, a Profile hub, you're getting a true 14mm hub that's light and will prolong the amount of time before you need to true your wheel.

That's pretty much it, and it's not bad, like you said. And they easily could do a different driver and stuff, but it would force the hub to be larger, which is more difficult and even more expensive.

Thanks for the input. I wasn't thinking about that. I guess that actually makes a lot of sense. I just wish it had better engagement. If it was how it is except with badass engagement, Id pay $240 for it.

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4/17/2015 8:15 AM

Tree hubs skip about a million time less than Madera/Profile.

I've owned two of each (1 LHD and 1 RHD of each)

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4/17/2015 8:23 AM

MaximusBikes wrote:

The machining so they can use the twigs and berries spokes is more expensive than doing regular ones. It's also way better in terms of wheel trueness and tension.

You're not paying for the engagement, like, say, a Profile hub, you're getting a true 14mm hub that's light and will prolong the amount of time before you need to true your wheel.

That's pretty much it, and it's not bad, like you said. And they easily could do a different driver and stuff, but it would force the hub to be larger, which is more difficult and even more expensive.

This. Plus parts are easier to find.

No too many straight pull BMX hubs out there. Costs more to machine those out rather than drill holes quick.

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4/17/2015 12:49 PM

tecnic1 wrote:

Tree hubs skip about a million time less than Madera/Profile.

I've owned two of each (1 LHD and 1 RHD of each)

How responsive does the engagements feel against a profile?

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4/17/2015 1:02 PM

tecnic1 wrote:

Tree hubs skip about a million time less than Madera/Profile.

I've owned two of each (1 LHD and 1 RHD of each)

peggiesmalls wrote:

How responsive does the engagements feel against a profile?

I don't really notice except when I fakie, and in that case, the tree is a lot easier. I suck bad at fakies though.

I kinda think the LHD Madera I got is kinda fucked up. It was skipping shitloads until I put a second set of springs in. My son is riding my old RHD Madera and it doesn't seem to skip as much.

And just for full disclosure, my Tree hubset is sitting on the floor in my garage. I bought those wheels for my new Barcode whenever those get done. Ibrode them for about a week, then switched back to the Maderas because I wanted to keep them fresh for my new bike. I haven't built up a completely new bike in ages. I did, however ride a set of Tree hubs for about a year back when I had a 22.

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4/17/2015 10:13 PM

Well my profile skipped more than the tree I have. My tree hub hasn't skipped at all. it's the machining that makes it cost a lot but it's easier to lace. It practically laces it's self. And best part you don't have to dish it. It's also smoother than any onther hub and the female axle when you grind doesn't flex at all.

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4/18/2015 4:57 AM

Oh yeah, I forgot about the smoothness.

Tree hubs spin for days. Very very little resistance, and they (to me at least) are noticeably faster.

Yeah, they are expensive, and Madera hubs are pretty decent for the money, but if you have the spare loot, Tree hubs are really really nice.

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4/18/2015 5:50 AM

demolition anorexia hub. Never skips. wish they recreated that thing.

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4/18/2015 6:53 AM

I haven't had issues with my Demolition Rogue.

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