So what to look for in a frame? Two frame and forks I'm interested in, which is better, why? What makes a better frame and fork?
1.
WTP scorpio: The 2014 WTP Scorpio frame is made from 4130 seamless Japanese chromoly, featuring a heat-treated integrated headtube drilled for gyro tabs, single-butted toptube with hydroformed gusset, double-butted downtube with hydroformed gusset, heat-treated Mid BB shell, investment cast seat post clamp, seatstay located removable U-brake mounts, CNC machined seatstay bridge, 6mm thick heat-treated dropouts and integrated chain tensioners.
Headset Type: Integrated (Campy)
Gyro Tabs: Removable (Included)
Brake Mounts: Removable (Included)
BB Type: Mid
BB Height: 11.75"
Chainstay: 13" - 13.4"
Headtube Angle: 75°
Seattube Angle: 71°
Seattube Height: 8" (203mm)
Seatpost Size: 25.4mm
Seat Clamp: Integrated
Dropout Size: 14mm
Weight: 5 lbs 2.5 oz
Wtp patron fork:The We The People Patron V2 fork is constructed from post-weld heat-treated 4130 "M2" chromoly featuring a 1-pc machined steerer tube with integrated bearing race, single-butted and tapered fork legs, 7mm thick investment cast hollow dropouts for strength, and a 7075-T6 aluminum compression bolt.
Height: 315mm
Steerer Tube Length: 170mm
Bearing Race: Integrated
Offset: 25mm or 35mm
Compression Bolt: 24x1.5mm
Compression Bolt Tool: 6mm Allen
Weight: 36 oz
2.
Volume vessel: The Volume Vessel frame is Broc Raiford's signature model made from 4130 heat-treated chromoly, featuring an hourglass shaped integrated headtube drilled for gyro tabs, double-butted top and downtube with dual gussets for strength, machined Mid BB shell, externally butted seattube with integrated seat post clamp, tapered seatstays with removable U-brake mounts, curved bridges for additional tire clearance, 7mm thick investment cast dropouts and integrated chain tensioners.
Headset Type: Integrated (Campy)
Gyro Tabs: Removable (Included)
Brake Mounts: Removable (Included)
BB Type: Mid
BB Height: 11.7"
Chainstay: 13.25" - 13.75"
Headtube Angle: 75°
Seattube Angle: 71°
Seattube Height: 9.25" (235mm)
Seat Post Size: 25.4mm
Seat Clamp: Integrated
Dropout Size: 14mm
Weight: 5 lbs 0.6 oz
Volume Hatchet: The Volume Hatchet fork is Drew Hosselton's signature model made from fully heat-treated chromoly tubing with a 1-pc internally and externally butted steerer tube, integrated lower bearing race, tapered legs for maximum tire clearance and 5mm thick CNC machined dropouts notched for peg clearance.
Height: 315mm
Steerer Tube Length: 162mm
Bearing Race: Integrated
Offset: 30mm
Compression Bolt: 25x1.5mm
Compression Bolt Tool: 6mm Allen
Weight: 29.1 oz
What makes each one better or worse and what should I look for?
And what makes a good hub a good hub?