Why Not Make...

Related:
Create New Tag

8/24/2014 8:50 AM

Why not make the Odyssey Director forks again but this tim have a shorter offset? Like have a 25mm offset director fork. They wouldn't look as bent and it'd feel better.

What do you guys think? Are there any new part ideas that you think companies should bring back or maybe a whole new idea?

Does anyone remember the G Coaster and that cam system they had for it?

|

References: OneGuyIlluminatiEye, robinson79, Brian Griffin, The Horror Contact, StoreBoughtChild, C_Johnsonbmx, dkTechEthan, etc.

8/24/2014 9:38 AM

Magnesium hub shells someone should bring back

|

8/24/2014 10:02 AM

Honestly I thought of a pawl/spring setup for a coaster BEFORE ezras was released that actually runs different than that style, BUT it would be a tad more complicated, which isn't good. I also have an idea for a hub that lets you pedal forward to go forward, backward to go backward, AND is a freecoaster.

Kinda unnecessary, but neat.

As to re-exploring ideas, welded on brake mounts and gyro tabs, stems with tabs that can be bolted on (almost none that i have seen have that anymore it seems), try revamping brake setups for better power transfer.

Maybe hydraulic rim brakes for BMX will make an appearance once they get dialed in on road.

I would LOVE to see a new coaster setup.

More differences in companies as far as frame design, they all look exactly the same. Back in the day companies added things like dual top tubes, a small standing platform behind the seat, and so on.

How about better sprocket guards or a better drive system. I could see belt drive being a possible option BUT because of the fact that it would need to have a split in the frame or the belt, that would be a HUGE weak point for the stresses that BMX bikes take.

|

"Hey anybody ever make that mistake like right when you wake up in the morning and you believe in yourself?" -Kyle Kinane

"BIKES!" -Tom Segura

8/24/2014 11:19 AM

I'm waiting for a new version of directors. I love the axle slots on them.

|

I love my bike but i hate myself
bike check

IG
@curtis_cantbmxwell
@powersbikeshop

8/24/2014 11:43 AM

I sketched up a bar called Love Handles. It has to do with the cross bar. I like to think they would be the most durable bars ever made.

|

8/24/2014 12:02 PM

Some of these ideas sound really interesting. I'd like to see.

|

8/24/2014 12:17 PM

why not make wireless brakes? the technology is already there in the R.C., all you need is the trigger off of a transmitter, a servo and a battery . there must be some way to do that, that would probably bring back brakes a bit

why not make the new style of slicks in 2.0 and 2.1's? i'm sure as hell not running 2.4/2.3 balloons for tires

why not have every hub manufacturer make pc, alum, and chromo hub guards specific to their hubs?

why not make removeable bolt on chainstay grind plates?

also why not fucking release the blind fc already?

|

refs: hookjrclc, hardbmxtim, hatchmoses for sale and trade, kymike for sale and trade, blizzbikes for trade, and some other dude i cant remember his username, vrsapat956, colonydirt94, mario.villegas90, wolfen
Camera Setup: Panasonic HMC150, Panasonic GH2, Canon FTBn, Yashica Lynx 5000e, Canon 28mm f/2.8, Canon 50mm f1.4, Rokinon 7.5mm f/3.5

8/24/2014 12:42 PM

bmxsteve99 wrote:

why not make wireless brakes? the technology is already there in the R.C., all you need is the trigger off of a transmitter, a ...more

Not tough enough for the wireless brakes. The rc cars have those lexan bodies, ridged body posts and never meet an impact in their (typical) duration. And I'm not sure that we have string enough servos that are small enough for the brakes. But I'm not completely up to date. So for all I know, we could. Other than that, I agree. And if we did have everything worked out on wireless brakes, I'd be one of the first to buy.

|

8/24/2014 12:55 PM

bmxsteve99 wrote:

why not make wireless brakes? the technology is already there in the R.C., all you need is the trigger off of a transmitter, a ...more

biggybuggy wrote:

Not tough enough for the wireless brakes. The rc cars have those lexan bodies, ridged body posts and never meet an impact in ...more

"never meet an impact in their life"
ever seen the 24 hour races with the 20+ pound baja 5th scales? plenty of tumbling and impact, vibration and drops etc

"not sure we have strong enough servos" servos aren't just limited to rc, a servo is what is used for everything from opening space shuttle doors to automated handicap accessable entrances, there is plenty of power to be had, most of the robotics shit like they do in mythbusters iscontrolled by servos, even the remote control real car one was steered by a servo


as for the form factor, it would not be limited by anything except its ability to bolt onto the bottom tube, all rc servos afaik would fit that
sorry if my post comes across asshole-ish, its not meant to be like that
cost would be the only limiting factor, but it could definitely be done, especially once the price factor is there

|

refs: hookjrclc, hardbmxtim, hatchmoses for sale and trade, kymike for sale and trade, blizzbikes for trade, and some other dude i cant remember his username, vrsapat956, colonydirt94, mario.villegas90, wolfen
Camera Setup: Panasonic HMC150, Panasonic GH2, Canon FTBn, Yashica Lynx 5000e, Canon 28mm f/2.8, Canon 50mm f1.4, Rokinon 7.5mm f/3.5

8/24/2014 2:33 PM

BETTER FUCKING CHAIN TENSIONERS.

|

"If you can't beat me on a bike, beat me off." -Will Stock

YouTube
Instagram (@WillStockSucks)

8/24/2014 2:35 PM

Stocksy wrote:

BETTER FUCKING CHAIN TENSIONERS.

we need more pegs with anti spin pins for this reason
usually the pin goes towards the open part of the dropout, but if you put it 180 degrees opposite, it prevents the wheel from slipping all the way to slammed, i did this for as long as i had shadow little ones and i never slipped to the point of chain slap once

|

refs: hookjrclc, hardbmxtim, hatchmoses for sale and trade, kymike for sale and trade, blizzbikes for trade, and some other dude i cant remember his username, vrsapat956, colonydirt94, mario.villegas90, wolfen
Camera Setup: Panasonic HMC150, Panasonic GH2, Canon FTBn, Yashica Lynx 5000e, Canon 28mm f/2.8, Canon 50mm f1.4, Rokinon 7.5mm f/3.5

8/24/2014 2:45 PM

bmxsteve99 wrote:

why not make wireless brakes? the technology is already there in the R.C., all you need is the trigger off of a transmitter, a ...more

biggybuggy wrote:

Not tough enough for the wireless brakes. The rc cars have those lexan bodies, ridged body posts and never meet an impact in ...more

bmxsteve99 wrote:

"never meet an impact in their life"
ever seen the 24 hour races with the 20+ pound baja 5th scales? plenty of tumbling and ...more

Impact. I have racing one of the 24 hour races. I've put servos through hell. But how often does the plastic casing get smashed legitimately? And with power, ypu quoted me out of context. We would need a compact, out of the way servo. I am well aware that servos are used in every day life, from space shuttles to elevator doors. But how big are those servos? Braking would put quite a bit of force on one and even if one of small size had the power to effectively slow down a bike, how long would it last? You'd need a sizeable servo to use in braking like that. Now I understand that all that I note can and will be done someday, if not available now, but what about stuff like transmitters and durability? My brake lever takes a beating, but would a transmitter or a servo? My lever barely handled a smash from 10 feet up to concrete, and I eventually got a new lever because it worked so poorly. Now imagine you have a servo in a reinforced metal casing, it still wouldn't stand up to a direct impact like a lever. Some like me ride in wet conditions often. Let's say the brakes are waterproofed through casing like they typically are, a hit to the casing could possibly compromise your water proofing. And after getting the electronics wet, you could very possibly be done.

I could go on with many things and all the things I state and say could be wrong or be fixed easily, but my point is, I don't think it's practical for bmx. A sport of minimalism and durability. Given another situation I'm sure they are a great idea. But this is more like adding several extra processes to an operation and getting the same result as before. And cost is a factor as you said. The last race season I was in, I spent $300 on servos. I'm sure there's still innovation left in the braking department, but not with this idea (imo). Too many variables and things to go wrong over our current system. Or, like often, I'm full of shit.

|

8/24/2014 2:53 PM

Stocksy wrote:

BETTER FUCKING CHAIN TENSIONERS.

bmxsteve99 wrote:

we need more pegs with anti spin pins for this reason
usually the pin goes towards the open part of the dropout, but if you ...more

My Sunday chain tensionsers bent to the point where they were unusable so I had to take them out. sad That's the only thing that I can complain about in regards to my frame.

|

"If you can't beat me on a bike, beat me off." -Will Stock

YouTube
Instagram (@WillStockSucks)

8/24/2014 3:00 PM

Stocksy wrote:

BETTER FUCKING CHAIN TENSIONERS.

bmxsteve99 wrote:

we need more pegs with anti spin pins for this reason
usually the pin goes towards the open part of the dropout, but if you ...more

I think people just need to tighten their shit more.

I've ridden Animal pegs since the beginning of 2009 and they don't have anti-spin pins, and my wheel never shifts or slips.


As for your wireless brakes idea… Maybe in years to come but idk how well they would grip if they're battery powered. They have wireless shifters now though so I'm sure brakes would or will be doable in the near future

|

8/24/2014 4:40 PM
Edited Date/Time: 8/24/2014 4:41 PM

wireless brakes would be a SWEET idea!
get on it steve, make millions

|

I ride to stay on two wheels and have fun!
BIKE CHECK

8/24/2014 5:02 PM

Screw in chainstay guards sounds like a rad idea, only problem i could think of is the bolt/screw heads getting warped and the guards being stuck onto the frame

|

Murica bike check
REFS four, tomdon, bmx1995, jared42069, obiwan chromoly, hate breeder, nshs2010, asilva23, rascio,
Alfred NYC, Kymike, chuck8273(kind of), tc86, Ugot2dewitt, LLURider, dprc, ecuadevil, scramhype, Mario.villegas90(X2), dirtstars22, Brian_Griffin

8/24/2014 5:28 PM

handlebar-to-face wrote:

Screw in chainstay guards sounds like a rad idea, only problem i could think of is the bolt/screw heads getting warped and the ...more

I'd still use them.

|

I love my bike but i hate myself
bike check

IG
@curtis_cantbmxwell
@powersbikeshop

8/24/2014 5:31 PM

Chainstay guards are fucking shit. Use nice thick tubing in the first place and it will be stronger, more dent resistant, and lighter than a chainstay with a chainstay guard.

|

8/24/2014 5:41 PM

Xxohioanxx wrote:

Chainstay guards are fucking shit. Use nice thick tubing in the first place and it will be stronger, more dent resistant, and ...more

True, but i'm still interested in the guards.

|

I love my bike but i hate myself
bike check

IG
@curtis_cantbmxwell
@powersbikeshop

8/24/2014 11:32 PM

Xxohioanxx wrote:

Chainstay guards are fucking shit. Use nice thick tubing in the first place and it will be stronger, more dent resistant, and ...more

Cult Stone Cold frame by Trey Jones look like it'd hold up well. He does ride it pegless so it's kinda useless unless he does a lot of pegless grinds.

|

Latest Bike Check/Update





Bought from: adam1234, tomdon (2), oscarbmx, the balt, smokesmokesmoke

8/25/2014 4:56 AM

Bring back bash guards

|

It’s all bmx

8/25/2014 6:27 AM
Edited Date/Time: 8/25/2014 6:29 AM

How about lever-less brakes that use a grip shift style setup where a small part of the grip twists for braking? Seth Peterson (Rides for Sunday) talked about doing it once WAAYYYY back in the day. Never heard how that went.

|

"Hey anybody ever make that mistake like right when you wake up in the morning and you believe in yourself?" -Kyle Kinane

"BIKES!" -Tom Segura

8/25/2014 7:03 AM

dave lawrence wrote:

Honestly I thought of a pawl/spring setup for a coaster BEFORE ezras was released that actually runs different than that ...more

Bizhouse has a coaster like that in the works. The FNR. Stands for forward, neutral, reverse.

|

I'm on the vital legit list!

8/25/2014 7:38 AM

dave lawrence wrote:

How about lever-less brakes that use a grip shift style setup where a small part of the grip twists for braking? Seth Peterson ...more

I feel like that wouldn't go too great with accidentally pulling brakes and brake tricks would feel different.

|


"It's like riding someone's bike and they got the same frame" -Four
Refs:Four x4,tomdon x5,Xxohioanxx,BigCurn, Don't remember the rest

8/25/2014 10:51 AM

dave lawrence wrote:

How about lever-less brakes that use a grip shift style setup where a small part of the grip twists for braking? Seth Peterson ...more

Kokxxy wrote:

I feel like that wouldn't go too great with accidentally pulling brakes and brake tricks would feel different.

Have a full size grip, and a small spot that is maybe 1/2 inch wide for it, so accidentally pulling wouldn't be likely unless you caught it just right. OR have full size grip and have it further in. The idea is there, and some logistics would make it work pretty well.

I kinda want to come up with a working prototype now...

HMMM....

|

"Hey anybody ever make that mistake like right when you wake up in the morning and you believe in yourself?" -Kyle Kinane

"BIKES!" -Tom Segura

8/25/2014 11:06 AM

dave lawrence wrote:

How about lever-less brakes that use a grip shift style setup where a small part of the grip twists for braking? Seth Peterson ...more

Kokxxy wrote:

I feel like that wouldn't go too great with accidentally pulling brakes and brake tricks would feel different.

dave lawrence wrote:

Have a full size grip, and a small spot that is maybe 1/2 inch wide for it, so accidentally pulling wouldn't be likely unless ...more

problem is, unless this part clamps over the grip or something, then you have to deal with a 40$ pair of grips, and only a limited few patterns to choose from

|

refs: hookjrclc, hardbmxtim, hatchmoses for sale and trade, kymike for sale and trade, blizzbikes for trade, and some other dude i cant remember his username, vrsapat956, colonydirt94, mario.villegas90, wolfen
Camera Setup: Panasonic HMC150, Panasonic GH2, Canon FTBn, Yashica Lynx 5000e, Canon 28mm f/2.8, Canon 50mm f1.4, Rokinon 7.5mm f/3.5

8/25/2014 11:32 AM

bmxsteve99 wrote:

problem is, unless this part clamps over the grip or something, then you have to deal with a 40$ pair of grips, and only a ...more

Nah, separate part from the grips, kinda like a griplock, but with a small twist spot for braking. You still get 10 dollar or whatever they cost grips, and this would be an optional piece.

I bet I could get it down pretty small in size too.

I should look into this. At least as something neat.

|

"Hey anybody ever make that mistake like right when you wake up in the morning and you believe in yourself?" -Kyle Kinane

"BIKES!" -Tom Segura

8/25/2014 11:38 AM

Photo

Something like this here (imagine no brake lever there) as an option, but make the actualy gripshift part smaller so it is less to grab and less likely to be accidentally pulled. You would use a full size grip and this would be just inside on one side (or both).

I feel like a LOT of riders don'd run brakes because of the lever and the slightly extra maintenance.
|

"Hey anybody ever make that mistake like right when you wake up in the morning and you believe in yourself?" -Kyle Kinane

"BIKES!" -Tom Segura

8/25/2014 12:28 PM

I disagree with some of these wireless brake ideas.

FIrst problem is, I DO NOT WANT ANYTHING ELECTRIC ON MY BIKE. Keep bikes simple. One wrong interference from another person in the park with that same brake or even cell phone interference and youre done. Plus they still wouldn't be right and i don't wanna worry about batteries and solar power plates would be destroyed.

If anything, a more trigger like lever that has an easy pull system would be just right. Like a gun trigger almost that takes no real effort to pull. Itd be cleaner and nicer. The leverage would have to be different somehow so it doesnt become difficult.

I don't know if i like this FNR coasting. That'd be nutty after a while and could go a few different ways. haha

Better chain tensioners isn't a bad idea. But really it was sundays fault for making them aluminum. They shoulda just like made the tip aluminum and the rest of it all hard chromoly.

Removeable grind plates arent exactly necessary. I highly recommend just buying a frame with higher quality tubing or different shaped tubing.

|

References: OneGuyIlluminatiEye, robinson79, Brian Griffin, The Horror Contact, StoreBoughtChild, C_Johnsonbmx, dkTechEthan, etc.

8/25/2014 12:50 PM

MaximusBikes wrote:

I disagree with some of these wireless brake ideas.

FIrst problem is, I DO NOT WANT ANYTHING ELECTRIC ON MY BIKE. Keep bikes ...more

Chain tensioners are almost all alloy, BEFORE sunday even existed.

As to trigger style levers, they have smaller ones (Diatech Goldfinger).

I agree with electronic brakes. We would go hydraulic before electronic.

The FNR coaster would be AWESOME for flatland I think, but that's about it.

|

"Hey anybody ever make that mistake like right when you wake up in the morning and you believe in yourself?" -Kyle Kinane

"BIKES!" -Tom Segura