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4/18/2013 3:53 PM

Hey guys, i recently snapped my The Take Ivy 4 along the seatstay and dropout weld, along with a crack going halfway around the end of the seatstay, so i'm sending it in to FBM ( they make Take frames) for their crash replacement offer which is half off any of their in-stock frames. ($185) I got this frame in Summer of 2010 so i would say it has lasted me quite awhile.

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It has come down to a decision between the Berzerker 2.5 in 21' trans black or The Take Ivy 5 in 20.75" in Trans Matte Green

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berzerker 2.5 specs:
Head Tube Angle 75 degrees
Bottom Bracket Height 11-7/8"
Seat Tube Angle 71 degrees
Standover Height 8-1/2"
Rear End Length 13-3/8" (slammed)

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ivy 5 specs:
Head Tube Angle 75 degrees
Bottom Bracket Height 11-1/2"
Seat Tube Angle 71 degrees
Standover Height 8-1/4"
Rear End Length 13-1/4" (slammed)

The only real difference between the frames is that the Berzerker 2.5 has ~ half inch higher bb, a quarter inch higher standover, and a 1/8 inch longer chainstay and of course the longer toptube length.

i am 16 years old and 5' 8" and i like to do nose manuals, hang fives, barspins, tailwhips, grinds, street stuff etc

so i'm mainly just wondering how much of a difference the ~half inch rise in bb height would make and if i should go with a 21" i'm not sure if i would like the extra roominess

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4/18/2013 4:38 PM

20.5 bezerker for sure not the 21 it would be to big for you

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4/18/2013 4:47 PM

yeah id go for the berzerker

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4/18/2013 4:54 PM

Beserk is legit

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4/18/2013 6:08 PM

For sure on the Ivy.

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4/18/2013 6:10 PM

I don't understand why they won't fully warranty it? You cracked it from riding. Oh, and didn't see your size. 21" will be a bit big, and 20.5 will be a bit small.

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4/18/2013 6:35 PM

Get the Ivy 5

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4/18/2013 6:36 PM

dont get the berzerker i know a guy who cracked two of them exactly how you broke your frame
id get the take , that green is sexy

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4/18/2013 7:12 PM

Jut got my berzerker back from warranty! Go with the 20.5! I almost got the ivy instead but they only had 20.75

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4/19/2013 5:54 AM

justin vogelsberger wrote:

dont get the berzerker i know a guy who cracked two of them exactly how you broke your frame
id get the take , that green is ...more

This is exactly what I was talking about in an Eastern thread. What did you buddy do on it? Does he throw his bike? Drop off large objects? Case? Land sideways? Huck himself?

There are too many factors to go off testimony like this. I would at most take this with a grain of salt. We do not know how this fellas buddy rides, so we do not know what kind of abuse the frame went through, and as a result, we cannot draw a legitimate conclusion. One of the frames could have cracked from being hit by a car, we don't know, we do not have enough information.

I would go with the beserker, for a change of pace. You already ran a The Take frame, so why not change it up a little? I know FBM builds those frames, but is the Geo different?

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4/19/2013 6:52 AM

dave lawrence wrote:

This is exactly what I was talking about in an Eastern thread. What did you buddy do on it? Does he throw his bike? Drop off ...more

do does alot of grinds and big gaps :p i know you cant just say that all of those frames will break like that. but personally i think 20.5 would be too small as well

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4/19/2013 10:15 AM

id probably go with the 21 jsut because since your only 16 youl probably grow a little bit more

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