I used to ride 8.5 rise bars with a 36 mm stem and that felt absolutely perfect then i made a transition to 8.75 with a 31mm stem and that feels too big for me (awkwardly wide too they're 30" long when i used to ride 28.5). I think going back to the original handlebar rise would be ideal for me but i would like something a but taller to compensate for the 36mm stem. I'm about 5'11 and 3-4 upsweet would be ideal with 11-12 backsweep is good too. The shadow vultus bars in 8.5 look perfect but im open to suggestions maybe I could choose something taller to compensate for the 36mm stem I dunno. What do you guys reccomend (I know there is a handlebar post on the front page already but i didnt think i was appropriate because i am throwing a whole bunch of numbers around xp)