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7/18/2014 12:02 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/18/2014 12:02 PM

Need some advice if you guys don't mind. (Searched through so many how to bunny hop threads its insane so don't tell me search button lol) I need advice tailored to my problem with j hops at the moment.
I am 5'7
I ride a 20.25 tt, and coming from my 19.5tt is a huge fucking difference. Much easier for me to get into the hop position, I feel way less cramped...
But I am still feeling cramped :0
I really dont wanna buy another bike frame with a 20.5 or 20.75 tt, so I am trying everything I can to make this 20.25 work.

I have moved the handlebars foward (they are no longer aligned with the forks) to give me some extra room, try to make it a 20.5 tt in a sense... It's easy for me to lift the front end up, but when it comes to sucking my knees up (THIS, is where I feel cramped.) I can only suck up my legs so far, i couldn't even imagine touching the back tire to my bum, no matter how hard I try... my bike is lightweight to me, so its not an issue of the bike being too heavy... my front end will lift up stem height, and I try my hardest to lift and level out with my arms, but my back end will only lift up 6-7 inches maybe 8 if I am lucky lol Should i lean foward more when leveling out and just keep sucking? I've tried this but I always feel like im riding a bull when I do this, cuz I land on my front tire too hard....

So my question is, instead of buying a new frame, I am thinking would it be a better choice to buy some longer crank arms to give my legs my space to suck that back tire up to my ass?

Also, if i got taller handlebars, and pushed them foward like they are set up now, would that add to make my tt even longer?

Any help is appriciated you guys.

P.s. - my indoor bike, when I bunnyhop on it, I get like 6-7 inches air, but end up hopping backwards a few inches instead of forward. Is this a sign that my J hop form is off?

as usual, thanks for the help you guys. you all rule!

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7/18/2014 12:27 PM

Im in the same boat but im like 2 inchs taller...lol but i can j hop just fine besides when i go to 360 i end up doing tire taps...and i think taller handlebars would work or try flipping your stem upside down or idk..lol btw..your indoor bike?

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7/18/2014 12:52 PM

Practice. Hop boxes and stuff with give so if you land on it you don't flip OTB.

I use soda boxes and other cardboard things that just collapse when/if I hit them.

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7/18/2014 1:34 PM

Unsure of what j hop is....got dick stuck in toaster

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7/18/2014 1:38 PM

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Unsure of what j hop is....got dick stuck in toaster

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7/18/2014 1:59 PM

An indoor bike is a good way to learn hops but you really can't improve your hops on it unless you put like a 30 pound weight on it or something. You should just try to practice and move your ass to the side of the seat and really just huck your knees up. If you hit your bars with your knees or something just bail or set the back end down or something. What is the worst that could happen if you hit your bars? G

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7/18/2014 5:41 PM

Shadow2 wrote:

Im in the same boat but im like 2 inchs taller...lol but i can j hop just fine besides when i go to 360 i end up doing tire taps...and i think taller handlebars would work or try flipping your stem upside down or idk..lol btw..your indoor bike?

My indoor bike is a spare frame, bars and fork set up without wheels that I try to practice hops on to work on my form. its good that at least ur able to do 360 taps. I cant even lift my back end up enough to 180 lol like i said though you guys im feeling mad cramped. Would longer crank arms and maybe a taller set of bars be a good upgrade option? I'm mad broke and already need a new back rim soon, so if im going to invest money into this I need it to work so any help is appriciated. lol Eskimo why r u putting ur dick in the toaster man its gonna get burned. lol

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7/19/2014 7:48 AM

bump u guys, will longer crank arms help u think? Id rather spend $100 as opposed to a new bike or taking bmx with a grain of salt bc i suck at it... been over a year and i still can barely hop. sad id b happy with 1ft but 8inch max is killing me.

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7/19/2014 9:17 AM

Bend your knees (compress)

Lift your front tire like a manual

Use your momentum from the compression to pop up the back

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7/19/2014 1:08 PM

ghostx720 wrote:

bump u guys, will longer crank arms help u think? Id rather spend $100 as opposed to a new bike or taking bmx with a grain of salt bc i suck at it... been over a year and i still can barely hop. sad id b happy with 1ft but 8inch max is killing me.

longer crank arms arent going to help
no part is going to make you learn this, you just have to put in the time and stay at it

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7/19/2014 1:32 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/19/2014 1:39 PM

it's all practice and it takes time to perfect your hops. don't waste your money on parts they won't really help. just keep trying and you'll be fine

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7/19/2014 2:14 PM

tr1x wrote:

it's all practice and it takes time to perfect your hops. don't waste your money on parts they won't really help. just keep trying and you'll be fine

^this...lol i cant say i jhop high but when i go to hop over shit is when it gets high..just practice man

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7/19/2014 2:45 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/19/2014 4:00 PM

Thanks for all the advice you guys! I really appreciate it. If you guys think longer crank arms won't help then I definitely won't even bother with that... i think my old bikes bars may be a bit taller. so when i go home ill check and if they are ill swap those out real quick and see if the extra half inch makes a difference with the bars... if not i won't invest any money in bars either. lol once again thanks again u guys. I'm going to go ride

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7/19/2014 3:03 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/19/2014 3:04 PM

I like the Skunk picture. They've always been cute to me , idk why

EDIT Or is it a mongoose , whatever , I'll take it home

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7/19/2014 3:42 PM

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I like the Skunk picture. They've always been cute to me , idk why

EDIT Or is it a mongoose , whatever , I'll take it home

Thank you! It's actually an African honey badger! Inspired by the one and only Tomdon! lol

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7/19/2014 11:16 PM

Sounds like you are centering your weight to far forward. If this is the case, then moving your bars forward is just magnifying the problem.

With the bars forward and your arms fully extended, you end up more centered towards the front of the bike. Dose that make sense?

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7/20/2014 6:22 AM

Longer crank arms is not going to work.

If your only getting 6-7" on an indoor dry bike, then your form is no good. Your probably way too stiff and not timing your pull up correctly. Your arms have to lift up before you start pulling your legs up. If you do this at the same time, your hops are going to suck. J-hop you have to have quick legs and time the hop just right.

Size of the bike may not be helping you a far as balance goes, but you should be able to jump on any bike and hop up in the air higher than that. Have you tried hopping over anything while moving? Try a carboard box. It will give you confidence and not be worried about getting hurt.

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7/20/2014 9:36 AM

Wayne S wrote:

Sounds like you are centering your weight to far forward. If this is the case, then moving your bars forward is just magnifying the problem.

With the bars forward and your arms fully extended, you end up more centered towards the front of the bike. Dose that make sense?

It makes perfect sense... I realize now that bringing the bars forward does not help my hops at all... It did make manuals a little easier to balance though, felt a little more stable.

I am going to move the bars back to being even with the forks tonight.

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7/20/2014 9:45 AM

dirtydog wrote:

Longer crank arms is not going to work.

If your only getting 6-7" on an indoor dry bike, then your form is no good. Your probably way too stiff and not timing your pull up correctly. Your arms have to lift up before you start pulling your legs up. If you do this at the same time, your hops are going to suck. J-hop you have to have quick legs and time the hop just right.

Size of the bike may not be helping you a far as balance goes, but you should be able to jump on any bike and hop up in the air higher than that. Have you tried hopping over anything while moving? Try a carboard box. It will give you confidence and not be worried about getting hurt.

Thank you for answering my question about the crank arms. Yeah I'm beginning to see that longer crank arms would probably make this problem worse, widening my stance will probably decrease my vertical leap. I am mad stiff when I ride. I find it hard to loosen up my legs and make them springy, even with stretching, I probably just need to work on my vertical leap and try to strengthen my legs for hops. And you are right, the size of the bike shouldn't affect my hop. I guess I was thinking little adjustments could help me dial it all in from mannys to hops. I'll try to start hopping over cardboard boxes and stuff too. Thanks for the advice everyone!

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7/20/2014 10:21 AM

If you are actually going to ride just swap your frame out with someone who has a bigger one, there really is no reason to stay on a frame thats too small and cramps you as it will just give you backache and make everything harder. Other then that just practice lots and you'll eventually work out what works for you

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7/20/2014 12:26 PM

JoeDavidson wrote:

If you are actually going to ride just swap your frame out with someone who has a bigger one, there really is no reason to stay on a frame thats too small and cramps you as it will just give you backache and make everything harder. Other then that just practice lots and you'll eventually work out what works for you

^this lol but seriously your like 2" smaller than me and we got the same tt frames i can j hop pretty high if i could post a video id show you but then again ive rode bikes since i was a kid

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7/20/2014 1:10 PM

JoeDavidson wrote:

If you are actually going to ride just swap your frame out with someone who has a bigger one, there really is no reason to stay on a frame thats too small and cramps you as it will just give you backache and make everything harder. Other then that just practice lots and you'll eventually work out what works for you

Shadow2 wrote:

^this lol but seriously your like 2" smaller than me and we got the same tt frames i can j hop pretty high if i could post a video id show you but then again ive rode bikes since i was a kid

Yeah I'll admit shadow, and to everyone else that contributed their opinion, that you all gave me that motivation I need to think out of the box a bit.. I need to suck it up and quit being a bitch and just hop this fucking bike! I'm going out right now to work some of it out lol

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