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I have been dying to master the rear wheel manual. I practice every time I'm on the bike and I can't get it down. Either I don't lift up the wheel high enough each time or i loop out. I start with my elbows locked and straight, lean forward and pull back and i can't find that balance point. I have a couple of times is all but I'm wondering about my bars and how far forward or backward they are and that doing it. How do u guys have your bikes set up and how do you manual? I also thought about trying a top load stem to see how it feels I currently have front load