time for a new freecoaster (WTP/Blind coaster???)

I have the blind and it is pretty solid aside from the springs. My first 2 sets of springs snapped on me and I have been using a rubberband in place of the spring atm (I have a regular spring and it feels super beefy compared to my old ones and im using the rubber band until it breaks). It feels super dialed when it coasts and its super smooth. Id give it a 7/10 though. The wtp coaster is pretty much KHE like all the other ones it just uses a custom 3 ball and spring retention thing while most of the others just use a 2 ball and spring retention thing to make it smoother I guess. Other than that I wouldn't know much about it lol

Coopers25 wrote:

I have the blind and it is pretty solid aside from the springs. My first 2 sets of springs snapped on me and I have been using ...more

Coopers25 wrote:

I have the blind and it is pretty solid aside from the springs. My first 2 sets of springs snapped on me and I have been using a rubberband in place of the spring atm (I have a regular spring and it feels super beefy compared to my old ones and im using the rubber band until it breaks). It feels super dialed when it coasts and its super smooth. Id give it a 7/10 though. The wtp coaster is pretty much KHE like all the other ones it just uses a custom 3 ball and spring retention thing while most of the others just use a 2 ball and spring retention thing to make it smoother I guess. Other than that I wouldn't know much about it lol

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so then, let me ask this question to the Blind riders: compared to the traditional KHE style hubs (if youve ever had one) how do you like the blind so far? do you think it will in the long run be a much better design than the KHE system, or just an alternative?

People have complained in the past about trying to make a more reliable coaster. I never personally thought the KHE style hub was too unreliable, and all of those hubs I definitely liked more than my Ezra. So if its truly more reliable I'd consider it, but if its more or less going to last the same I would probably go with a KHE style hub

Wait for the odyssey clutch coaster.

Mario.villegas90 wrote:

Wait for the odyssey clutch coaster.

Mario.villegas90 wrote:

Wait for the odyssey clutch coaster.

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is there any real reason to? are there any specifics out about it yet? general release date? I dont want to wait around for something that ends up not being great. Id rather get something soon and wait till the clutch comes out and see how people actually like it first.

Everyone said the same thing about the ezra hub; i bought the first batch or so of them and I ended up hating it. Not saying that Ezra is in any similar to Odyssey, but with freecoasters something like that is always a possibility even with a well respected company like Odyssey

Mario.villegas90 wrote:

Wait for the odyssey clutch coaster.

Mario.villegas90 wrote:

Wait for the odyssey clutch coaster.

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xlilkillaluc15x wrote:

is there any real reason to? are there any specifics out about it yet? general release date? I dont want to wait around for ...more

xlilkillaluc15x wrote:

is there any real reason to? are there any specifics out about it yet? general release date? I dont want to wait around for something that ends up not being great. Id rather get something soon and wait till the clutch comes out and see how people actually like it first.

Everyone said the same thing about the ezra hub; i bought the first batch or so of them and I ended up hating it. Not saying that Ezra is in any similar to Odyssey, but with freecoasters something like that is always a possibility even with a well respected company like Odyssey

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The Blind hub feels more solid over the KHE designs. KHE designs have a flex when engaging, Blind is solid like a cassette. Goodluck on the clutch coaster, as I dont think its even in production yet and from what I have recently read, possible release in Nov but who knows. Profile Zcoaster should be out in a few days or so, Im waiting on that .

The helix doesnt just use a custom resistance thingy, but also it has 2 tapered roller bearings, ds and nds, which are much better than ACB bearings are coping with the forces the sideways acting clutch will put on the coaster. So theres that. The blind looks good aswel though, im planning to get one soon...

EddiMundo wrote:

The helix doesnt just use a custom resistance thingy, but also it has 2 tapered roller bearings, ds and nds, which are much ...more

EddiMundo wrote:

The helix doesnt just use a custom resistance thingy, but also it has 2 tapered roller bearings, ds and nds, which are much better than ACB bearings are coping with the forces the sideways acting clutch will put on the coaster. So theres that. The blind looks good aswel though, im planning to get one soon...

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hmm definitely interesting. Its too bad not anyone really has the helix because I'd love to hear how it is from someone actually riding it.

Mario.villegas90 wrote:

Wait for the odyssey clutch coaster.

Mario.villegas90 wrote:

Wait for the odyssey clutch coaster.

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xlilkillaluc15x wrote:

is there any real reason to? are there any specifics out about it yet? general release date? I dont want to wait around for ...more

xlilkillaluc15x wrote:

is there any real reason to? are there any specifics out about it yet? general release date? I dont want to wait around for something that ends up not being great. Id rather get something soon and wait till the clutch comes out and see how people actually like it first.

Everyone said the same thing about the ezra hub; i bought the first batch or so of them and I ended up hating it. Not saying that Ezra is in any similar to Odyssey, but with freecoasters something like that is always a possibility even with a well respected company like Odyssey

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The Horror Contact wrote:

The Blind hub feels more solid over the KHE designs. KHE designs have a flex when engaging, Blind is solid like a cassette. ...more

The Horror Contact wrote:

The Blind hub feels more solid over the KHE designs. KHE designs have a flex when engaging, Blind is solid like a cassette. Goodluck on the clutch coaster, as I dont think its even in production yet and from what I have recently read, possible release in Nov but who knows. Profile Zcoaster should be out in a few days or so, Im waiting on that .

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yeah, had a feeling the clutch would be awhile before coming out, not waiting around for it. The z-coaster I'm not really waiting around on, im just not that interested in a profile coaster.

Personally, either one is a good thing.

KHE style coasters really don't have anything really wrong with them. I loved how smooth my Demolition coaster was, and my friends have it too. They're really solid and i can't speak for how long they last because i just went back to cassette within 8 months because it's a little more consistent for the things i ride.

On that basis, the Helix would be a longer lasting version of KHE style. That's the BEST of KHE style internals. And the Blind (currently) is the BEST of cassette style internals. Until the Z-coaster by Profile comes out, or some other type.

I would get the Helix if you don't care about weight, they seem to be pretty hefty and long lasting, i'd trust it to any hard riding and it should be buttery smooth with some nice thick grease in it.

The Blind is still really tough. Get it in the Male axle version. And if you wanna ride cassette again, it can be switched if you buy the extra driver. That's really awesome. And it still has a fair amount of slack! This is also a good choice for you, should be less working on it too in comparison, (if you need to fix the spring, use a thick rubberband!)

So to clear it up, if you want something that's ONLYa coaster and you never switch, get the Helix. If you want to play with cassette and coasting, the BLIND is a good choice.

Good luck and whichever one you get, let us know!

MaximusBikes wrote:

Personally, either one is a good thing.

KHE style coasters really don't have anything really wrong with them. I loved how ...more

MaximusBikes wrote:

Personally, either one is a good thing.

KHE style coasters really don't have anything really wrong with them. I loved how smooth my Demolition coaster was, and my friends have it too. They're really solid and i can't speak for how long they last because i just went back to cassette within 8 months because it's a little more consistent for the things i ride.

On that basis, the Helix would be a longer lasting version of KHE style. That's the BEST of KHE style internals. And the Blind (currently) is the BEST of cassette style internals. Until the Z-coaster by Profile comes out, or some other type.

I would get the Helix if you don't care about weight, they seem to be pretty hefty and long lasting, i'd trust it to any hard riding and it should be buttery smooth with some nice thick grease in it.

The Blind is still really tough. Get it in the Male axle version. And if you wanna ride cassette again, it can be switched if you buy the extra driver. That's really awesome. And it still has a fair amount of slack! This is also a good choice for you, should be less working on it too in comparison, (if you need to fix the spring, use a thick rubberband!)

So to clear it up, if you want something that's ONLYa coaster and you never switch, get the Helix. If you want to play with cassette and coasting, the BLIND is a good choice.

Good luck and whichever one you get, let us know!

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Awesome help man, exactly what I needed to hear.

I've been riding coasters for the past 5-6 years or so and while I got the Ezra (partly) because of the ability to switch it to cassette. I never actually did in the past 1.5-2 years Ive had one, so I doubt I ever will. After realizing that with the Ezra, thats not really a need for me.

For the Blind, I am looking more for how the internals hold up. If I got it, I would only go for the male axle because I dont really trust female axles in freecoasters. The whole spring/rubber band thing sketches me out a bit though. I also don't really like the idea of unadjustable slack.

The way you make it seem though, the WTP seems like it would be the best way to go. I've ridden/owned at least 3 KHE/KHE style coasters before my Ezra and I never had NEARLY as much issue as I did with the ezra. A blown out bearing once in awhile and a regrease every now and then, other than that theyre great.

So now I'm leaning towards the helix, but I'd still like to hear a review from someone with one of them before making the decision. Also if anyone has any REAL new info on new coasters to come (like the clutch) having to do with specific internals or release dates let me know