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HI i have stock fit rims and used to have fit faf tires but whenever i would fill them up to around 60 the bead of the tire would come off and pop the tube, since then i purchased shadow Conspiracy Valor tires and the same thing happened please help. i dont know if i need new rims or should get my rims trued. thanks
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IF that happened then you didnt seat the bead properly. Seat it properly and you should have no problems
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No you gotta check if your bead is set properly when your pumping your tire. Look around the circumference of the rim and try to spot the areas where the sidewall is bulging or being pulled down towards the rim. Massage these areas out so that the bead is set perfect. It has nothing to do with your spokes.
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using a tire lever may fix this. my animal GLH's did that but i wasn't using a tire lever back in those days. haven't had it happen to me since i started using one
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This. Your tire is not sitting on the rim well when you air it up. Are you using an air compressor?
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The higher psi the faster you go , but you pay more of an impact on your body when you come up short or case coping
The lower the slower but the
More forgiving if that makes any sense ?
Fill up your tires in intervals , if it busts out the rim let a little air out set it better in the rim and continue
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try mounting your tires with your tube at 15 or 20 psi, that will help to seat the bead easier. also, just take it up to 35 or 40 and then check the bead if its good, go up to 50 and 60, if at any point you have more or less bead showing that means youve not mounted it properly. more beed showing it'll blow off less bead showing means the other side probably has extra showing.
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You only need to tighten the spokes when they are loose, or when the rim/wheel squeaks under landings (because of said loose spokes).
When mounting a tire, you always need to use a minimum of two tire levers. I find BMX tires to be extremely hard to pop in at the end, and even I even have to strain with the help of levers.
The magic is to use some soapy water. Heck, scratch that, you only need good ol' H20. Maybe a squirt/spray gun. Or your fingers. Wet tissue. Your tongue... Whatever you have at hand.
Coat the inside and the outside of the bead with a generous amount of water, then go fit that tire on your sexy rim. It's gonna be easier. The water is going to evaporate eventually, and I hope you didn't put too much that it goes right into your rim (if you have an aluminum rim and stainless or steel spokes-they can act together and bond).
Oh, and to prevent the water to stagnate and stay there, but also to prevent the tube sticking to the rim and rubbing away, creating small rubber babies, I also have some talk at hand (baby powder). I coat the inside of my tires with the thing, and the connecting surface is as smooth as silk.
When fitting that tire of yours, go easy. You only need to get 100% strength for the final part, but use that strength with 100% brain too.The water will make it easier tho.
Inflate the tire a bit, until it's round but still soft. Check the seating of the bead, pulling the tire up when the bead line dips down or vice-versa. Inflate a bit more. Massage the rubber. Inflate... Massage...Inflate...bounce on the ground like a basketball...massage.... Then inflate fully.
Complicated but simple.
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Coopers25 wrote:IF that happened then you didnt seat the bead properly. Seat it properly and you should have no problems
dave lawrence wrote:This. Your tire is not sitting on the rim well when you air it up. Are you using an air compressor?
i am using an air compressor, why?
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Coopers25 wrote:IF that happened then you didnt seat the bead properly. Seat it properly and you should have no problems
dave lawrence wrote:This. Your tire is not sitting on the rim well when you air it up. Are you using an air compressor?
They inflate so fast that they knock the tire out of the bead. Pump it up slowly, stop and check that your tire is still sitting in the bead, if not, deflate the tire a little and re-seat the portion that came out of the bead. It sounds like you wheel is out of true, horribly out of true a big wobble.
Do you have single wall rims by chance?
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dave lawrence wrote:This. Your tire is not sitting on the rim well when you air it up. Are you using an air compressor?
im pretty sure i have single wall rims, i did what everyone else said and it works my tires work now but my tires do wobble, if you want i can take a video.
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sounds like you need a wheel truing.
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dkTechEthan wrote:sounds like you need a wheel truing.
i take it I can just go to a bmx shop for that
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dkTechEthan wrote:sounds like you need a wheel truing.
if youve never done it before yeah take it to the shop and ask if you can watch them do it. you can do it on your bike if youve got brakes and know how to do the repair. hell just check your spokes each time before you ride and after it'll save you allot of headache...
shop will probably charge 10-20 a wheel depends on how bad they are. take the tires off for them if you wanna keep the costs low.
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dkTechEthan wrote:sounds like you need a wheel truing.
Yeah but it'll cost you about %40 of what a cheap double wall wheelset will.
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does nobody care to fix things anymore!? :O
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dkTechEthan wrote:does nobody care to fix things anymore!? :O
Only if it's worth fixing. Would you put glue on a used bandaid because it stopped adhearing to your skin or just grab a new one?
Shit analogy but it does the trick. Single wall rims are "crap" sinking money into crap is like polishing a turd.
Why'd I even ask if he had single walls? Because his problem is exactly what single walls do, over and over again. Are they worth fixing? Once, to get by until he can save up for something worth taking care of.
Replace those single walls dude.
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dkTechEthan wrote:does nobody care to fix things anymore!? :O
i think im just gonna buy some g sport roll cage rims. What do you think
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better then what you've got now. buy them from powers bike shop and get chad to lace them for you, he does really good work.
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dkTechEthan wrote:does nobody care to fix things anymore!? :O
Nah. You're seeing this everywhere too, from aircraft to cars to bikes. Broken? No fixin', buck it down the mountain and get a new one!
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dkTechEthan wrote:does nobody care to fix things anymore!? :O
This.
A generation of throwing away rather than repair.
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dave lawrence wrote:This.
A generation of throwing away rather than repair.
I don't see why people are doing this, it's just so sad! Why oh why do Humans want to die?
Hucking away (oops on the b over there) just seems much more normal than repairing it...
There was this kid once who broke a spoke AND GOT A NEW WHEEL!
The last laugh was certainly on the shop who rebuilt and resold it at a standard price... In another color... Wait for it...
TO THE SAME GUY WHO WRECKED HIS CHEAP NEW WHEELS!
i don't think he rides anymore-got older, got a motorbike, got cooler, so ditch the BMX-.
I hope everyone who reads these posts think twice before buying something new....
Oh, and guys who build up new frames every 5 months just because they want a different bike...
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None of you would continually fix a single wall rim. You'd upgrade into a double wall rim. None of you.
He's talking wheels not laptops, aluminum can be recycled, and if people weren't cheap with upfront costs they'd have a product worth fixing while reducing manufacturing of shit product.
Hypocrites.
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...I fix single wall rims every single day at work. and before that since i was 8 i trued my parent's and sister's and my bike's wheels, all where single wall, and my old ones where 48h. i checked them all once every 2 weeks.
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Nwewinit wrote:None of you would continually fix a single wall rim. You'd upgrade into a double wall rim. None of you.
He's talking wheels ...moredkTechEthan wrote:...I fix single wall rims every single day at work. and before that since i was 8 i trued my parent's and sister's and my ...more
Your kind of re-enforcing my "single wall rims are crap" statement. Waste of time and money if you don't do it yourself. I'm not surprised you fix single walls every day. I'm also not surprised you checked your old 48h every two weeks. How often do you true your oddessy hazards?
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I don't think either one of you are right, nor are either of you wrong.
It really depends how hard someone is on their bike that determines if someone should pitch the single wall rims or keep them and fix them.
For some people, a single wall rim is adequate. It will hold up, and not need trued that often. For others, it would need trued a lot, and possibly even warp the rim itself.
For the first person, dishing out $100+ for 2 decent rims wouldn't be that ideal. From our perspective it might be just because most of us see single wall rims as crap, but for someone who isn't that hard on them, it really wouldn't.
Now for the second person, dishing the same amount out would be ideal. Let's say for the sake of ease that a shop would charge $30 total for truing both wheels, and said person needs their wheels trued a few times a year because of how hard they are on their rim. Once they go to get their wheel trued for a 4th time, they could have just as easily bought double wall rims and been done with it. Of course double wall rims need trued as well obviously, but not as much as a single wall rim would need.
That's not counting if the person knows how to true rims themselves though. Even then if you do and you're truing your single wall rims every other week, you're gonna get tired of doing that pretty quick. Someone who knows how to true wheels, isn't that hard on them, and has single wall rims, probably wouldn't mind doing it once, maybe twice, a year.
I have double wall rims and know how to true them. Front gets trued probably twice a year, maybe 3 times, but the back gets trued quite often because I'm hard on it, and land funny on my back wheel sometimes. I'd get so pissed if it was a single wall and I was doing that all the damn time or wasting money having someone else do it.
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